World Cup Qualification Round UK Soap Operas

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  1. Sarah

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    Yes it was a very poor decision I remember. Although El Dorado started off terribly it was getting better when it was cancelled. Which was even more annoying because if they were going to cancel it why did they have to cancel Wogan?!
     
  2. Angela Channing

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    I agree with this.

    I did try to find a satisfactory definition of a soap opera but there were always examples of shows which I didn't consider to be a soap opera but it could be argued that they fit the definition. Although all soaps are drama series not all drama series are soaps.

    I think all soap operas have the following elements:
    • Focus on the same core group of people who drive the storyline.
    • Have an open ended narrative. Shows with self-contained plot for each episode can still be a soap if there is a concurrent storyline or storylines that spans several episodes.
    • Plotlines unfold as if they were in real time, i.e. they rarely jump forward or backward in time by many months or years and continue from that point. (Not to be confused with flashbacks and flash-forwards which briefly acknowledge a different era before returning to the usual period of the soap).
    • Typically, have cliffhangers at end of episodes or seasons.
    • Often melodramatic with exaggerated, overly emotional or overly dramatic storylines.
    So there are a few shows on the list of nominees that don't meet my definition, including one I had already said on here that I didn't consider it to be a soap. However, that's just my opinion so I thought I would leave it to forum members to decided what is and is not a soap according to how they vote.

    As I said my first post on this thread:
     
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  3. Angela Channing

    Angela Channing World Cup of Soaps Moderator

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    Wasn't Wogan losing viewers though?

    It had been running for several years by then and audience figures were dropping so the BBC were looking to make changes to strengthen their early evening line up. Emotions and loyalty aside, it was an understandable decision.

    Wasn't it Emmerdale that killed off Eldorado? Didn't ITV move it from daytime to prime time to be an effective rival for Eldorado and prevented it from establishing a big audience from the start?
     
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    No. Emmerdale was being networked in the 7pm slot from 1990, two years before Eldorado began. Also, it aired on Tuesdays & Thursdays which were the opposite to the night's that Eldorado aired (Monday, Wednesday & Friday). ITV did do something like air an hour long Coronation Street against the first episode of Eldorado in order to "strangle it at birth" so to speak.
     
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    1. Victoria
    2. Connie
    3. Upstairs Downstairs
    4. Downton Abbey

    I'm not sure it really qualifies as a soap but I'm watching Victoria currently and am enjoying it. Connie I only vaguely remembering watching but as @Karin Schill says . . . Stephanie Beacham. And I've added Upstairs, Downstairs and Downton Abby based on their notoriety and my perception of their "cultural significance" - whatever that means.
     
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    1) Howard's Way
    2) Take The High Road
    3) Eldorado
    4) Pobol Y Cwm
    5) The Archers
    6) Springhill
     
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    1. Take The High Road
    2. Upstairs Downstairs
    3. Pobol Y Cwm
    4. Howard's Way
    5. Family Affairs
    6. Eldorado
     
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    Here's how I voted

    1) The Bill - the arrival at Sun Hill of the sociopath PC Gabriel (really David) Kent signalled the greatest run of consecutive episodes of any British soap ever.

    2) Grange Hill - I loved this when I was a kid. The antics of School bully, Norman "Gripper" Stebson, pupils Zammo Maguire and Roland Browning (amongst others) swept the land in the 1980s.

    3) Howards Way - How I loved my fix of this ship building soap on Sunday evenings back in the day.

    4 )Eldorado - nominated for its catchey signature tune.

    5) Mile High - loved the campness of this soap set on an airline.
     
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  9. Angela Channing

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    I loved Grange Hill too but I'm afraid I can't include this vote as no one nominated the show. Your other 4 votes are still valid though so you can leave it as it is or you can add vote for up to 2 more soap operas.
     
  10. Angela Channing

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    The Archers are correct, get your vote in for your Top 6 UK soap operas by midnight tonight.
     
  11. Sarah

    Sarah Super Moderator Staff Member Original Member Since 1998

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    Big Jim is waiting patiently for the game to begin....

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  12. Angela Channing

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    The poll is now closed and the votes have been counted and verified. The 6 UK soap operas that qualified for the World Cup finals are as follows:

    Howards' Way - 34 points
    Eldorado - 24 points
    Take The High Road - 19 points
    Pobol Y Cwm - 17 points
    Connie - 17 points
    The Crown - 16 points

    The line up of UK soap operas for the main game is now complete: Coronation Street, Brookside, EastEnders, Emmerdale, Crossroads, Hollyoaks, Howards' Way. Eldorado, Take The High Road, Pobol Y Cwm, Connie and The Crown.

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    Thank you to everyone who nominated and voted in this round. Details of the next qualification round will follow shortly.
     
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  13. Mel O'Drama

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    I realise this is anal even for this forum, but I'm intrigued by the Howards' Way logo you've found, which I'm guessing is fan made.

    Can anyone spot the difference(s)...

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    All these years I've constantly reminded myself not to write it in the most obviou's way, therefore I was quite shocked and confused when I spotted the alternative logo.
     
  15. Angela Channing

    Angela Channing World Cup of Soaps Moderator

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    I've never watched Howards' Way so I wasn't aware that the title of the show was referring to the way of more than one Howard. :embarrassed:

    Thanks for pointing this out, I'll get it right next time.
     
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    Yes indeed. The main family's surname is Howard, so there are a number of them. Well... four at least.


    It was in no way a criticism of anything you or anyone had posted. I was just curious about the different title card which is very similar to the original, but with a wayward apostrophe.

    You're doing an amazing job with the images and I always enjoy seeing what you come up with in the World Cups.
     
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  17. James from London

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    I just realised I completely forgot all about Red Rock, the Irish police station/crime family-based soap opera that's just come back to BBC1 afternoons for its final series. It's far soapier than The Bill ever was and much grittier than any 'afternoon soap' has a right to be (it aired in prime-time back in Ireland). It's got great plotting and top-notch acting with a real emphasis on its characters. If I'd have remembered in time, I'd have tried to sneak it in with my UK choices, even though it doesn't really qualify, but I think it deserves a mention anyway.

     
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  18. Angela Channing

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    James, you can save it for the final qualification round which is rest of the world. It's Irish (i.e. not UK, USA or Australian) so it would qualify
     
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  19. James from London

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    Oh great!
     

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