The Most Irresponsible Thing Bobby Ever Did

Discussion in 'Dallas - The Original Series' started by Kenny Coyote, Aug 11, 2018 at 9:44 AM.

  1. Kenny Coyote

    Kenny Coyote Soap Chat Active Member

    Message Count:
    297
    Trophy Points:
    377
    Location:
    Maryland
    Ratings:
    +437
    Bobby did some irresponsible things, but there's one thing that stands out - something he did where he was basically gambling with Pam's life. The gamble paid off but was a crazy risk to take. Bobby brought Christopher to Southfork, believing that JR was Christopher's father. He fully intended to hand Christopher over to JR, but then Pam walked down the stairs and saw Bobby holding Christopher. She looked incredibly happy and asked "You got us a baby"? At that moment Bobby had a choice to make. He could have told the truth, knowing that Pam would be disappointed for a while but that she would understand that the baby belonged to JR (based on what was believed at the time). Instead Bobby chose to tell a huge lie, one that could have ended with Pam confined to a sanitarium indefinitely or worse.

    He told Pam that yes, he had gotten them a baby. Since he had every reason to believe Christopher belonged to JR, how could he possibly have thought this would work out well for Pam? Supposing what Bobby believed about Christopher to be true (that he was JR's baby), he had no reason to realistically believe he and Pam would be allowed to keep the baby. The most reasonable outcome to expect would be that after Pam had become used to the idea of being Christopher's mother, she and Bobby would have to hand him over to JR. How would Bobby possibly expect that to turn out well? However disappointing it would have been to Pam if he had simply replied, "No, this is JR's baby from Kristen", it would have been exponentially more disappointing to Pam to have to give up Christopher and the idea that she was going to become his legal adoptive mother after several weeks or months of becoming closer to Christopher by the day and becoming increasingly used to the idea of being Christopher's mother.

    Pam was suicidal before, which is why she was supposed to still in be the sanitarium that day. So considering she was already suicidal, imagine how devastated she'd be if maybe after a couple of months of taking care of Christopher and feeling that she was his mother, she were to find out that she couldn't keep Christopher because Bobby had lied to her and the baby belonged to JR? Pam might never have mentally recovered from that. She may have taken her own life. As if all that isn't bad enough, Bobby would have been found guilty of trying to steal his brother's child. That's a felony and that means prison.

    It would have been absolutely disastrous for Bobby and Pam as a couple. They were only saved by the incredibly unlikely twist of fate that it turned out that Christopher was Kristen's son from another man who had the same blood type as JR and she had the baby very prematurely which made the time frame work out convincingly. The odds of Kristen miscarrying JR's baby, then becoming impregnated by a man with the same blood type as JR, and then have that man's baby prematurely enough to make it realistic that it was the child she was pregnant with when she left Dallas for California were astronomical!
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2018 at 9:48 AM
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Top Jimmy

    Top Jimmy Soap Chat Member

    Message Count:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Location:
    USA
    Ratings:
    +125
    Member Since:
    2004
    Yes, that was irresponsible of Bobby, but understandable in the moment. I couldn't believe he let Katherine walk out of the hospital without calling the police after Pam's car accident. That was probably the dumbest thing he ever did. Katherine could have come back at any time and kidnapped or killed Pam, or go after Bobby and his family. Dumb, dumb, dumb!
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  3. Snarky's Ghost

    Snarky's Ghost Soap Chat Oracle

    Message Count:
    4,064
    Trophy Points:
    5,636
    Location:
    Haunting that cozy cellar under Falcon Crest
    Ratings:
    +5,291
    Member Since:
    September 2000
    Agreeing to go halfsies with JR when the battle over Jock's will was over when it was obvious JR had no intention of abiding by Jock's letter.

    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Mustard

    Mustard Soap Chat Active Member

    Message Count:
    211
    Trophy Points:
    377
    Ratings:
    +359
    Member Since:
    23 October 2014
    Not listening to Miss Ellie and Pam about the danger ahead with the Battle for Ewing Oil against J.R.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2018 at 7:03 PM
    • Like Like x 1
  5. Barbara Fan

    Barbara Fan Super Moderator Staff Member

    Message Count:
    3,047
    Trophy Points:
    7,368
    Location:
    Scotland
    Ratings:
    +7,116
    Member Since:
    2000
    Asides from marrying insipid, simpering gold digger April??

    Turning into a JR when it came to the fight for Ewing and oil and blackmailing George Hicks/ setting up Walt Driscoll
    and
    getting over Pam so quickly
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Like Like x 2
  6. Victoriafan3

    Victoriafan3 Soap Chat Fan

    Message Count:
    457
    Trophy Points:
    1,984
    Location:
    New zealand
    Ratings:
    +1,029
    Member Since:
    About 2005
    Not moving heaven and earth to find his wife, the love of his life, after she disappeared from hospital. And grieving for her. Very out of character. He was Not being responsible to Christopher either by not at least trying to find his sons mother
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  7. Willie Oleson

    Willie Oleson drilling for soap

    Message Count:
    7,340
    Trophy Points:
    8,250
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    somewherie on the prairie
    Ratings:
    +13,906
    Member Since:
    April 2002
    His marriage to that Barnes woman?
    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  8. Chris2

    Chris2 Soap Chat Member

    Message Count:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Location:
    United States
    Ratings:
    +132
    Having phone sex with Pam, resulting in her crash into that 18-wheeler and leading to the destruction of the series.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  9. ArchieLucasCarringtonEwing1989

    ArchieLucasCarringtonEwing1989 Soap Chat Addict

    Message Count:
    964
    Trophy Points:
    682
    Location:
    London
    Ratings:
    +1,494
    Member Since:
    22nd June 2010
    Not making an active effort into finding Pam, especially after seeing Katherine, who not only tried to kill Bobby years earlier but also had a massive grudge against her sister and the Ewings as a whole.

    I hated how he just gave up on her and was dismissive toward her in front of Christopher, he played right into JR's hands
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2018 at 1:23 AM
    • Like Like x 1
  10. TJames03

    TJames03 Soap Chat Well-Known Member

    Message Count:
    564
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Location:
    California
    Ratings:
    +349
    Letting Pam vanish and not getting Katherine arrested.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. Kenny Coyote

    Kenny Coyote Soap Chat Active Member

    Message Count:
    297
    Trophy Points:
    377
    Location:
    Maryland
    Ratings:
    +437
    I believe the reason they spend more screen time having Bobby search for Pam is that the majority of the audience had heard the realize news that Victoria Principal had left Dallas. So there wouldn't have been much excitement for the audience in watching Bobby search for Pam, knowing that Bobby wouldn't be able to find Pam and bring her back to Southfork because Victoria Principal had left Dallas for good.

    So while I agree that it was out of character for Bobby to not have looked harder to find Pam, I understand why they made the storyline the way they did. If the makers of the show, including the writers, were interviewed by an entertainment magazine and asked about it now, I would guess that along with the reason I'm supposing is why they didn't have Bobby look harder for Pam, they may also have justified it the following way: This was the third time Pam had left Bobby. She left Bobby shortly after Cliff was arrested for the murder for Julie Grey and stayed with LeeAnn until she was set-up by LeeAnn and ended up with a picture of her in bed with Ben Maxwell standing over her with an unbuttoned shirt, then Pam left Bobby after her mother died and she blamed Bobby for her mother's death (extremely unfairly in my honest opinion), and then she left Bobby because of her burns after her collision with the oil tanker truck. The makers of the show may very well have tried to justify Bobby not looking harder for Pam as being because Bobby had just gotten so sick of Pam leaving him again and again that he felt like if he hadn't convinced her yet that he loved her no matter what, whether she could have babies or not and whether she was still beautiful or not, then there was nothing more he could do to convince Pam of his true, undying love for her.

    Personally, I believe Bobby should've done an awful lot more to find Pam than he did and had Victoria Principal stayed with Dallas, and they had run the disappearance storyline, I believe we would have seen Bobby "move Heaven and Earth" to find Pam! Furthermore, I believe that Pam, having sustained tremendous scarring as a result of her burns, would have gone through an incredibly difficult time emotionally having lost much of her once gorgeous looks. It would have been a very serious, dramatic storyline which would have been quite challenging for Victoria Principal to act out. It would have been very challenging for any actress to pull off that storyline convincingly and I would have liked to have seen how Victoria Principal would have done with that storyline. I think she would have risen to the occasion and turned in an excellent performance!
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2018 at 10:34 AM
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. TJames03

    TJames03 Soap Chat Well-Known Member

    Message Count:
    564
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Location:
    California
    Ratings:
    +349
    OK, then not having Katherine arrested.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Mustard

    Mustard Soap Chat Active Member

    Message Count:
    211
    Trophy Points:
    377
    Ratings:
    +359
    Member Since:
    23 October 2014
    Bobby acting completely out of character in the late years obviously. Bobby also had a very short temper when riled.

    In regard to the Pam controversy, here are some questions.

    1. Why didn't they kill off Pam in the Season 10 DVD finale?
    2. Why didn't they have the Ewing family all devastated, or showing some emotion, after what had happened to Pam?
    3. Why didn't they have Bobby search all over when Pam disappeared and Katherine showed up?
    4. Why did Bobby denounce Pam to Christopher soon after Katherine's appearance?
    5. Why didn't Pam's disappearance then remain a mystery, instead of having the Margaret Michaels cameo and adding a "Pam is dying of cancer" moment?
    6. Why have Bobby have an affair with a Pam lookalike?
    7. Why make Bobby mourn April like the true love of his life, in contrast to denouncing or forgetting Pam?

    The Dallas brass under Leonard Katzman sure did love to keep digging that hole that they had gotten themselves into by not giving Victoria Principal a good sendoff.

    It's obvious that what David Jacobs said is true in regards to how the brass' dislike of someone should never appear on screen, but it sometimes does. It's also very obvious that somewhere along the line, starting with the dream revelation and massively intensifying after making a dog's breakfast of Pam's storyline, was that the brass forgot to take the plots, characters and storylines seriously and it became an ever greater parody by Season 12-14 DVD. Philip Capice as Executive Producer obviously stopped a lot of rubbish ending up on screen, and made use of the positives of people like Larry Hagman and Leonard Katzman. With Katzman and Hagman running the whole show on the Executive Production side, especially after David Paulsen left for good, the writing and plot structure fell apart.

    It's funny because there was very little political controversy behind the scenes on Dallas before 1983, with the only prominent one being Larry Hagman's new contractual demands after the Who Shot J.R.? cliffhanger. Starting with Barbara Bel Geddes' heart surgery in 1983, politics was rife behind the scenes on Dallas, sometimes as entertaining as the show itself.
     
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2018 at 10:45 PM
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  14. Seaviewer

    Seaviewer Soap Chat Addict

    Message Count:
    1,093
    Trophy Points:
    3,896
    Location:
    Australia
    Ratings:
    +1,566
    Member Since:
    14 September 2001
    I agree with your analysis but it must be stated that if it was known that VP had not really left then that outcome would also have been a forgone conclusion.
     
  15. Angela Channing

    Angela Channing Soap Chat Champian

    Message Count:
    4,996
    Trophy Points:
    7,460
    Ratings:
    +6,648
    Member Since:
    1999
    Planting guns on Walt Driscoll when he could have just taken the money out of the briefcase. Ultimately, his irresponsible action lead to Mickey's paralysis and death.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. Kenny Coyote

    Kenny Coyote Soap Chat Active Member

    Message Count:
    297
    Trophy Points:
    377
    Location:
    Maryland
    Ratings:
    +437
    That's a good point, Angela. I believe Bobby was very irresponsible in that situation as well, especially because he posted the money for Driscoll's bail! Had Driscoll not been bailed out of jail he never would have had the opportunity to commit the hit and run which ultimately resulted in Mickey's death. Bobby even admittedly knew Driscoll being free was a threat. He said that in the episode where he walked into JR's office and said "Did you hear about Walt Driscoll? He's jumped bail and disappeared. He may be on his way to The State Department right now. If he is, there might not be a Ewing Oil left to fight for." The safest place for Driscoll to be, for everyone - Driscoll included - was in jail.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. Mustard

    Mustard Soap Chat Active Member

    Message Count:
    211
    Trophy Points:
    377
    Ratings:
    +359
    Member Since:
    23 October 2014
    The safest thing would have been if Bobby and Ray had kept their noses out of the whole business to start with. Ewing Oil and Walt Driscoll would have been very rich, and Mickey would be fine. I thought Bobby's behaviour during that whole period was worse than J.R.'s, and certainly more hypocritical.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2018 at 4:13 PM
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page