Should Trump get a second term?

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Does Trump deserve another term?

  1. Yes, we need four more years!

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  2. Ummmm..... No.

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  1. Snarky's Ghost

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  2. bmasters9

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    As angry as he was there, he doesn't deserve any more time beyond the four years we initially gave him!
     
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  3. Frank Underwood

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    Absolutely not. Of course, Dems will no doubt pick another corporatist war monger to run against him. A polite one, I'm sure. After all, their problem with Trump is his vulgarity rather than his policies. They adopted a rule on Friday stating only registered Democrats can seek the Democratic Presidential nomination. It's no doubt a move to keep Bernie Sanders from seeking the party's nomination this time, unless he's actually willing to register as a Democrat. So while Trump doesn't deserve another term, the Dems just might give him one.
     
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    It is equally interesting not whether he *deserves* a second term, but whether he will get one. I mean, for many he did not even deserve the first one, yet here we are.
     
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    I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the candidate representing your party to be a registered member of that party. Why would you not want to be a registered member if you want registered members of the party to campaign for you? If you don't want to be a member, run as an independent.

    I like Bernie Sanders and he is closer politically to me than most American politicians, although I still consider him to be right-wing when compared with many European socialists. However his supporters, those that supported Hillary, Jill Stein, Gary Johnson and others, have to chose between whether they want Trump to win in 2020
    or to unite around a candidate that will implement policies that will help all Americans and not just the rich ones, and in particular a candidate who will support the poor and the most vulnerable people in American society. The voting system used in the USA means realistically the candidate best placed to beat Trump will be the Democratic Party nominee so people need to get behind Democratic Party or by default they will be contributing to Trump's re-election.
     
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    HELL NO!
     
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  7. Frank Underwood

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    The two party system has a stranglehold on American politics. The only way an Independent can win is to run as either a Democrat or a Republican. Bernie caucuses with the Democrats and supports an agenda that holds to the Democratic Party's values prior to the neoliberal takeover of the party under Bill Clinton. Debbie Wasserman Schultz also said that the party is designed to keep out grassroots activists like Sanders because they consider them outsiders. They want a deeply entrenched establishment Dem to run, even if they lose.

    While it's true that the best way to ensure Trump loses is to rally around the Democratic candidate, that candidate will no doubt still benefit the rich and the military industrial complex. So we'll basically be trading a vulgar, obnoxious shitty president for a polite shitty president. It's why I remind people of the Democrats who've confirmed torturers and crony capitalists to Trump's Administration, as well as Dems who've voted with Trump to increase the military budget, illegally spy on Americans, and deregulate the banks. We were in more military conflicts under Obama than Bush. He implemented a right wing healthcare plan, made the Bush tax cuts permanent, engaged in mass deportations, and also increased illegal surveillance on Americans. So if Dems want people to vote for them, perhaps it's time they stop screwing their base and start supporting an agenda that the majority of Americans want.
     
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    I'm not American, I'm British but my opinion is No. His policies or should I say lack of policies regarding LGBTQ people is disgraceful. And that's me being polite. :mad:
     
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  10. Frank Underwood

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    Great strategy. Pretend that Hillary Clinton wasn't a horrible candidate so they can trot out another one just like her in 2020. Did anybody ever consider that she won the popular vote by three million votes because she ran against someone even more despicable than she is? And what's with blaming Wikileaks? Hillary's caught saying she has "public and private positions," and the DNC is caught rigging primaries. So why take pitchforks to Wikileaks? Dems act holier than thou, yet they want their misdeeds covered up.

    And yes, let's blame Russia for the millionth time. I'm sure they're responsible for the disenfranchised workers Hillary ignored. I'm sure they were thrilled with her support of the TPP and the prospect of their jobs being sent overseas. Hillary also blames being a capitalist and women who are allegedly controlled by men for her loss. It's conveniently never her fault. Dems instituted the pied piper strategy of elevating Trump to legitimacy because they thought they could beat him, yet she still lost to the political novice game show host.

    If moderate Dems knew best like they think they do, they wouldn't have gotten their asses handed to them across the board in 2016. If they win now, it will only be because Trump is such an unhinged maniac. But unless they're willing to finally support policies most of the country is clamoring for, they won't be able to savor their victories for very long.
     
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    Not when you do that, it isn't (talking about Trump, of course)!
     
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    So, let's take a look at what this bloated pig actually did over the past week.

    After throwing his weight around at the G7 summit and shafting US allies the previous weekend, he left Canada early on Saturday morning (June 9th) and headed to Singapore.

    After arriving on Sunday (June 10th) and refusing to prepare, he spent a couple of days doing nothing, according to reports he was bored as hell (what would a crass bastard like him do in a foreign culture?) and tried desperately to have the summit re-scheduled to Monday (June 11th).

    Tuesday (June 12th) was the big day of the summit, they spent a couple of hours chatting, then they had lunch and went for a walk to show off his car, signed the agreement and took pictures. Two hours of interviews and then back to America.

    He arrives early on Wednesday morning D.C. time (June 13th) and does nothing for the rest of the week. On Friday morning (June 15th) he had that bizarre media blitz on the White House lawn. Plus his Daily Intelligence Briefing (Weekly, rather) at 11.00am (the one with bullet points and pictures, so he is able to absorb it).

    Saturday & Sunday (June 16-17th) he spent playing golf and pocketing taxpayers' money at his own club in Potomac Falls, VA - bringing the total number of golfing days to 117 (days at a Trump property 153) out of 417 days in office.

    His 1st "full" day back at the office was yesterday with lots of "executive time" for Twitter & cable TV and public events scheduled between 11.30am and 3.00pm.

    Full public schedule available at:

    https://factba.se/topic/calendar
     
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