Dallas Character Should Charlie have been Bobby's after all?

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  1. SantaCarrintonEwingsBells

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    I think the writers should've made Bobby, Charlie's real father after all, for one thing we would've been spared the whole Jenna and Bobby having a baby storyline in season 10.

    Buy also Charlie might've been used better in the long run, especially since Lucy was on her way out of Dallas in 1985, perhaps Charlie would've been the natural Lucy replacement rather than Jamie?

    Sure we might have gotten a couple of recycled Lucy storylines but Lucy was very much teen of the late 70s whereas Charlie was a teen of the mid to late 80s, a different generation almost with different circumstances facing Charlie.

    Also it would be good to see Pam trying to be a good step-mother
    And at first being very reluctant about it but the two form a bond over time, plus Jenna, Bobby and Pam working together trying to do the best by Charlie.
     
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    Interesting idea which might have worked with a better and more likeable actress playing Charlie. It would have had great potential to create some interesting conflict between Bobby, Jenna and Pam.
     
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    Definitely not!

    Both actresses who played Jenna & Charlie Wade went to the school of pouting & whining through out their run on Dallas. I'm referring specifically to the version of Jenna played by Priscilla Presley. Shalane McCall wasn't much better as the teenage Charlie.

    Having Charlie actually be Bobby's child may have been good dramatically with the storylines but it would've no doubt forced a big wedge between Bobby & Pam, especially Pam. I wouldn't have wanted to have seen Pam have to deal with that as she already had a similar storyline were she had to deal with Lucas being Bobby's son.

    If Charlie had been Bobby's daughter that would've tied Jenna & Charlie to Southfork more & I certainly wouldn't have liked that as I came to dislike both of there characters in season ten. They both became very whiny & needy & I was glad to see the back of them when they eventually left in the following season. :)
     
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    I applaud and agree with this comment. :clap:
     
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    Very interesting post. First of all I've never ever viewed Jamie as a replacement of Lucy. :confused:
    I found the characters to be really, really different.

    Secondly if Charlie had been Bobby's it would not have changed the pregnancy storyline in season ten because Jenna was only pregnant because Priscilla was pregnant in real life and they wrote her pregnancy into the show. So considering that fact I still think there would have been a Lucas.

    Then finally as for your idea about Charlie being Bobby's daughter. I don't know. :think:A part of me thinks that yes it could have been interesting if she had been. But another part of me thinks it's good that she wasn't as made it easier for Bobby to break up with Jenna and get back together with Pam. :dance:
     
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    Oh yes, Jamie was def a Lucy replacement!
     
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    I think had they gotten a better actress for the part, then I think it could've worked out, I do agree that Shalene McCall wasn't a very good actress, Charlene Tilton was no Barbara Bel Geddes or Victoria Principle, but given the right material Tilton showed talent.
     
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    Yes! I liked Jenna a lot and it would have been an interesting twist.

    OMG and Pam DIDN'T graduate from the school of whining??!
     
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    Just about all the lead characters on "Dallas" whined from time to time. That's nothing new!

    When my love and respect for a character is strong enough, I'm able to look past questionable "behavior" and instead cheerish the parts of his/her persona that I love to death!

    I never quite grew to love Jenna or Charlie as characters! Thus, the little things they did "wrong" tend to stick like glue to my brain!

    Anyway, that's my take on this issue!
     
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    Pam whined more than most I'm afraid. Charlie was a teenager, normal for her to whine. I never saw Jenna as a whiner.
     
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    The difference is that Victoria eventually grew into a good actress. Presley and Shalane never did, at least not during their DALLAS tenure.
     
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    I never saw Victoria as particularly poor...was she? At the beginning?
     
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    And you are entitled to have your opinion just like I'm entitled to have mine! :) The same goes for others on this site!

    How did this discussion suddenly change subject? :think: We were discussing various characters, and now you want to discuss the wealth of a particular actress? :confuse:
     
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    I think she meant "poor actress" and not broke actress.
     
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    Sorry @Ms Southworth I didn't say you weren't entitled to an opinion, or that others weren't?

    With regards to Victoria, I was speaking to @Snarky's Ghost ?

    *sigh*
     
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    VP was very inconsistent and a bit self-conscious for her first 4 years on the show; she then relaxed and became much, much better.

    I always see the scene in which Pam confronts Lucy's creepy photographer as the moment when it all turned around. From that point onward, VP hit nary a wrong note.

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    Uh, sorry, @Sarah! I misunderstood the meaning of "poor" in that context!
     
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    Interesting post! They made the right call to have Morgan Fairchild's Jenna admit that Bobby wasn't Charlie's father. After that admission, Jenna was no longer a threat to Pam and had served her purpose as a character. It was a mistake to bring her back in the form of another actress and completely ridiculous to bring up the already resolved paternity issue with a mediocre at best third actress.
     
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    I would say Presley's Jenna whined all through her five years on the show.

    Pam was only really whiny when season 10 rolled around, and she was leaving any way sadly :-( #lovePam
     
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    Pam graduated with flying colours. Yes, I will certainly acknowledge that Pam whined on occasions but she had good reason to.

    However the difference between the characters of Pam Ewing & Jenna Wade are massive. Victoria Principal in my opinion was a far better actress than Priscilla Presley. Priscilla was great eye candy & it is no doubt that her debut on Dallas certainly helped the show in the ratings war with Dynasty. It's just a shame that Presley isn't a very good actor, the constant plastic expression on her face hardly changes through out her run on Dallas. In stark contrast to Presley, Principal is a breathe of fresh air, you really feel for the character of Pam but this is mainly because Principal really brings the character to life through her acting abilities, the chemistry she had with Patrick Duffy & the storylines which she was presented with.

    Patrick Duffy just didn't have the same chemistry with Presley that he had with Victoria Principal. Yes, I know Jenna was supposed to be Bobby's first love, it's just the version of Jenna played by Presley was a rather mediocre, bland character which was mainly due to Presley's lacklustre acting abilities. :(
     
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