nuDynasty Episode Chat S01E18 Don't Con A Con Artist

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  1. RottenSkipper17

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    So I figured I would create a new thread discussion for next week's episode... just in case...

    Anyways, here's a bit of a spoilery thing that I found online and I have my own theory as to what it could mean...

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    Liam to Fallon: "Have you considered therapy? Just you, your mother...and a very courageous psychiatrist?"
     
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    I knew it! Dr. Toscanni's coming!
     
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    This episode could be subtitled "The Confusing W-2 Form of Mrs. Gunnerson" .
     
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    How funny nuDYNASTY is focusing now that nuAlexis has arrived.

    It's interesting how semi-well they reimagine the events of oldDYNASTY -- including Sam Joe's spontaneous performance, an obvious replay of Heather's Peter Gunn rug cutting.
     
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    It would be an interesting "nature vs. nurture" study for behaviorists to focus on how Fallon can be so observant, so tough and so witty, while Steven, her biological brother can be too stupid to live.
     
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    I have to say it doesn't really surprise me. The remake of the campless season 1 story was going to be their biggest challenge - which they didn't accept.
    No Blaisdels, the Colbys as the most boring soap characters I've ever seen, Fallon as a semi-comical loose cannon...I honestly believe that they had no idea what they were doing.
    Actually I'm surprised they've waited this long to introduce Alexis.
     
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    Is it me or is Michael getting really, really annoying? I mean, seriously, he just seems so butthurt over Fallon's fake marriage to Liam, even though he acts like he isn't. I am this close to giving up on Michael/Fallon for good. I mean, if not for this whole storyline with Michael's dad being ill, I think now is the time to write out Michael for good.

    I mean, if Michael really doesn't want to be with Fallon, he needs to stop giving her false hope. And maybe it's time that she started to move on from him for good. I mean, is Michael just so hurt and broken over not having Fallon in his life? Is he just afraid of being with her? God I can't take this crap!

    The writers are acting so wishy-washy with this particular storyline - it's like they don't really want Michael with Fallon anymore and they keep on pushing Liam with Fallon and yet they keep on leading on Mallon fans with the elusive promise that somehow they're going to get back together.

    And it also feels like they don't really want Michael around anymore but now they're using this whole cancer storyline to stall even more and keep him around for a little bit longer. I mean, why are they inserting Cristal of all people into Michael's story? It probably would make more sense to use Fallon and maybe she can actually prove to Michael that she really does value and love him.

    This is absolute garbage. If the season finale turns out to be a steaming pile of crap, I'm not sure if I'll be around for the second season. Screw that! They are throwing away what could be a great love story between two straight people from different classes just to force in a newbie character and a contrived, haphazard romance and try to convince viewers to care about him for little to no reason.

    And also, I've been in denial for the past couple of weeks over the possibility that Liam might be Adam, but now I'm not so sure anymore. The minute Alexis mentioned El Paso, I then started to recall Liam mentioning something along the lines of his grandparents being from Texas or something. Is that a clue or something?

    Also when Liam and Fallon kissed, I honest to God thought it was going to turn into a sex scene. Then he just suddenly backed away from her. I'm now beginning to wonder if maybe Liam senses something about Fallon. And apparently Alexis spent all that money into finding Adam. So I guess Adam's kidnapping was the catalyst that ultimately destroyed Blake & Alexis's marriage. Then why did Alexis even have Steven & Fallon in the first place?

    And what the hell was up with Sammy Jo singing and dancing on top of the table? That was the absolute weirdest thing I've seen on T.V. yet! It was so off-putting and jarring that it didn't seem to be something that even belonged on Dynasty. They definitely should've cut it. I liked Fallon's Wild West shootout stunt from last week better. At least it was entertaining and not so cringeworthy.

    I don't know what the hell is going on... the pacing... the tone of this episode was so off... there were parts that I was struggling to get invested in... And if this show is trying to convince me that Alexis is a loving mother that is trying to reconnect with her kids, then I don't really see it. And boy oh boy is Steven really dumb... I can't believe how easy it is for Alexis to turn Steven against his own sister... This is so utterly depressing.
     
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    To be fair, he was pretty dumb about Alexis' intention in the original too.

    Adam gets another mention, this time as a way for Steven not to completely shun Alexis. If Fallon reacted badly at Steven being in contact with mommy dearest, how will she react at the fact that she potentially has an older brother out there? Is it Liam or is that just a big red herring?
     
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    I'd like it if Fallon for once didn't come out on top... she's always so smug and the actress doesn't have the guarded, but loving aura of Pamela Sue Martin, nor the feminine softness of Emma Samms. She is all wisecracks and no personality/softness.
     
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    A pretty weak episode, but it's good not to see Jeff, Cesil or Monica. Sam was the best part of the episode!

    Again, it's better than most of the episodes we got in the beginning.
     
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    @RottenSkipper17 : I could'nt watch the episode yet, but it's an obvious nod to " HAIR"
    Nice idea... Would the creativity be increasing ?
    Something else has become obvious by now: it's fun for the sake of fun, we'd better not expect any depth... Maybe the creator of The Love Boat would have appreciated it... ?
    Well let's enjoy the cruise and the crew...
     
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    @Soaplover Well Fallon isn't exactly coming out on top - she's on the outs with her beloved brother, she has pretty much lost the man she truly loves (Michael), possibly for good, and the one guy that might actually be into her might turn out to be her long lost brother. I wouldn't blame her if she is headed for a serious mental breakdown at this point.
     
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    From the moment I saw Cristal around Michael in the new episode one thing flashed on my mind: Fallon's jealousy... IS MICHAEL THE NEW NICK? I remember the triangle involving Fallon, Nick & Krystle in season 2 of oldDynasty. Could that be the way to reignite the hate between Fallon and Cristal? Cristal feels Blake still loves Alexis, Alexis make her believe they slept together (in Rome? Or maybe New York this time?), Cristal confides on Michael and they kiss, Fallon see them... War has begun!!!!
     
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    Oh the silliness of it all.....:fp:
     
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    One thing that occurred to me while watching this show is how "off his game" Anders has been in the past two episodes. Within a day or so of Blake and Cristal's engagement, Anders was in receipt of the life story of one Celia Machado, and was waving the info around to make the soon-to-be Mrs. Carrington very nervous. Now, Fallon has been officially married to some nobody [supposedly] named Liam Ridley, and Anders seems totally unfazed. No private investigator, no FBI favors called in, no nothing...which is not exactly the Anders we would expect, since keeping that family and its fortune safe from outsiders is his raison d'etre. One would expect him to be digging up all the dirty secrets, and know more about Liam than even Liam knows.

    She's mouthing the words, but the viewer is supposed to get the 'subtext' that no one (the characters nor the viewers) believe the words. Okay, maybe Steven believes her right now, but most everyone else is rolling their eyes or just ignoring her blathering on about her love for her kids, her wanting to be their mother again, etc. The writers are not trying to convince anyone of her sincerity--in fact, they're not even trying to make viewers give her the benefit of the doubt. That whole scene with Steven (where she told him about Adam just to deflect her guilt in the Sammy Jo fiasco) shows that her kids (even a missing one) are just tools in her toolbox.
     
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    Another awesome episode! It's getting better and better and better.
    Will Alexis manage to dethrone NuDynasty's powerhouse Fallon? I wonder.
    Why couldn't Cristal be like this from the very beginning? Did she have to be kick-ass to justify that Venezuelan family storyline? Oh well!
    A company scandal that will probably cause more conflict (yippee!) and what exactly is it that Alexis has done when she was still married to Blake? I want to know!!
    Why do I have to wait another week to find out, it's just not fairrrrrrrw!

    Steven said that his mother had accepted his homosexuality from the very beginning, to some people that really means something, so I can understand why he feels obligated to give her the benefit of the doubt.
    And he's never been the smartest Carrington anyway.
    I also like all the references to Blake's childhood and Anders' role in it, but how does Alexis know? It's possible that Anders had entertained her with these stories but it's almost as if she and Blake have grown up together. Did Alexis and her father stay on the property after Tom had bought it? This needs to be explored a little more, I think.

    This is a soap so I think the Fallon-Michael relationship is going to linger for a while (read: seasons), a sad goodbye with a sad smiley face only means that they really belong together. We are so being manipulated here, but I'm just going to play along.
    My only complaint: no shirtless Liam. But hey, we got Sammy Jo's mini-musical!

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    Heather wins, sorry!
     
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    And now I just realized what the biggest flaw in this whole Liam story is - why is no one investigating Liam?! For all of the time Fallon spent hiring an attorney to procure the annulment, she also could've spent that time hiring a private investigator to do a background check on her so-called husband. Also I know that Fallon is feeling vulnerable right now and she feels like she has no one to talk to, but I don't understand why she doesn't appear to be more suspicious of Liam especially because he agreed to marry her for money out of nowhere even though they were total strangers. How much does she really know about Liam? How does she know that she can believe anything that comes out of his mouth?

    I mean, we know next to nothing about this character and yet we're supposed to be invested in him even though the writers haven't really given any conclusive reason. I'm sorry but I just don't trust Liam. He might seem like a nice guy but for all we know he could secretly be a psychopath that's plotting to destroy Fallon and get his hands on her money. And I also hate that they're practically ruining Michael's character just to prop him up and somehow make him better. Ugh! I hate it when writers do that.
     
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    They had to place some distance (physical as well as emotional) between Michael and the Carringtons in order for this story of his father's health to work. We're being led to believe that Michael's father contracted leukemia courtesy of something Carrington Atlantic did in Clarke County, like perhaps some chemical dumping. In order to create the whole us versus them scenario (mean, evil corporation owners endangering the health of poor, put-upon average folks), you can't have Michael living on the Carrington estate, doing occasional dirty work for Blake and saving Fallon from the evil clutches of Jeff Colby. He will still be interacting with the Carringtons, just from a different angle: torn between past loyalty to the Carringtons, and obvious loyalty to his father/family, most of whom will not be so charitable toward the Carringtons once they learn why Culhane, Sr. is at death's door.

    On the other end of things, this illness scenario will be yet another reason for Blake and Cristal to be at odds. He might own the company, but she is the COO (remember that? :re:) so her input on this potential scandal cannot be dismissed as easily as Blake tends to do with others. I thought her efforts to get that specialist into town to review Culhane Sr.'s case was the sort of good-hearted stuff our "original" Krystle would have done--like she said, the kind of stuff the filthy rich are able to do. It was a genuine wish to be helpful, and Blake will try to dissuade her from getting involved (in other words, try to get her to be more like HIM rather than HIM being more like her) leading to more bickering. She had no idea of course that CA might be responsible for the illness, but when the truth comes out, the Culhanes might think she DID know and was trying to cover up CA's role in the problems.

    Overall, the changes in the show are overwhelmingly positive. The plotlines and interactions since they got 'picked up' for the final nine episodes are almost as if they hired different writers, though I assume these are the same show-runners as before. There is a greater emphasis on serialized storytelling. In the original thirteen episodes they had a lot more self-contained stories/events.

    In the previews they said the next episode won't air until April 27 (?), so there's going to be a while before we see another episode. We also saw Jeff Colby, meaning we aren't rid of him yet.
     
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    That's an American TV thing I've never understood. How can they just skip a few weeks before airing the next episode? That's never happened on Dutch television (unless a king or queen died).
     
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