Moore Sad News - Mary Tyler-Moore Dies Aged 80

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    US Emmy award-winning actress Mary Tyler Moore has died aged 80.

    She was best known for her television roles in the 1960s sitcom The Dick Van Dyke Show and the eponymous The Mary Tyler Moore Show in the 1970s.

    She was also nominated for a best actress Oscar in 1980 for the film Ordinary People.

    BBC News: US actress Mary Tyler Moore dies aged 80
     
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    I just read it too! It is a pity she didn´t get an Oscar for "Ordinary People". She surprised me when I watched it at the time because all I had seen with her was "Thoroughly Modern Millie".

    More info here:
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/mary-tyler-moore-dead-at-80-719799
     
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    Very sad she was beautiful :(
     
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    I couldnt say i was a fan as i dislike US comedies such as Dick van Dyke and mary tyler moore shows, not my cup of tea and also before my time

    but i did enjoy her performance as the cold mother in one of my fav films from 1980 in Ordinary people

    She looked pretty poorly in the last few pics i saw of her.
    RIP
     
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    Very sad. I would venture to say that MTM was a show that never "jumped the shark."

    :(
     
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    R.I.P Miss.Moore,you can throw your hat all you want now 200_s.gif pic11.png .
     
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    I suspect a wall of "Dick Van Dyke Show" and "Mary Tyler Moore Show" carnage to strike now that Mary has gone to that great newsroom in the sky.

    Richard Deacon and Ted Knight died decades ago. And Maury Amsterdam a few years ago, in his nineties. But most of the casts of these two series are around and kicking, nearly all in their eighties and nineties: Ed Asner, Betty white, Chloris Leachman, Valerie Harper (still a wee tyke in her late-seventies), Gavin McLeod, Dick Van Dyke, Carl Reiner, Rose Marie....

    They'll fall like dominos over the next year or two.



    I was watching a report last night which echoed something I'd thought before myself: that Moore had an innate sense of timing, at least in terms of her career, for about two decades: she played a more three dimensional housewife than most in Laura Petrie in the '60s "most sophisticated" sitcom, with comparisons made at the time between Rob & Laura Petrie and their being the TV equivalent of Jack & Jackie in the White House; Mary Richards appearing on the horizon just as the sitcom genre was about to become an agent of social change in the early-'70s and the feminist movement was picking up steam (her show best tapping into that melancholy in which the era was awash) the series becoming the most important sitcom of the decade along with the more politically in-your-face "All in the Family"; and then played, quite against type, a mother grieving -- or refusing to grieve -- the accidental death of her son in "Ordinary People" released only weeks before the accidental death of her son in real life.

    And, as I've always wondered, who's more "christmassy" than Mary Tyler Moore -- a woman born only a couple of days after the holiday?:

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    Which begs the question: now that she's gone, what bell tolls in the distance? Aside, naturally, from the impending deaths of all her co-stars...
     
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    https://www.yahoo.com/music/how-mar...them-and-an-instant-tv-classic-230907737.html



    Today, love is all around as the world mourns the death of legendary actress and feminist icon Mary Tyler Moore at age 80. And the soundtrack for this nothing day is “Love Is All Around,” the theme for Moore’s revolutionary, eponymous sitcom of the 1970s. The ebullient, 56-second opening song set the perfect plucky tone as the hard-working, hat-tossing career woman who could turn the world on with her smile, Ms. Mary Richards, made it on her own in the big city of Minneapolis. And it became one of the catchiest, most beloved themes in television history.



    It turns out there’s a reason why “Love Is All Around” was such a success. It was penned and performed by a real rock ‘n’ roll veteran: Sonny Curtis, a member of Buddy Holly’s Crickets and the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame, whose writing résumé also includes “I Fought the Law” and tunes for the Everly Brothers, Andy Williams, and Bobby Vee. (Side note: Urban legend has occasionally, incorrectly credited Paul Williams as the theme’s writer, a misunderstanding because a man named Pat Williams wrote music for the series.)


    Incredibly, Curtis wrote “Love Is All Around” in just two hours; it was an instant classic, in the truest sense. But the song almost didn’t make it onto The Mary Tyler Moore Show. In 2014, Curtis told The Tennessean how the deal came together.


    “I wrote it for the show. It all happened in one day, and I owe getting the deal to Doug Gilmore, a real good friend of mine who lives here in Nashville now,” Curtis said. “He was in L.A. working for the Williams Price Agency. They managed Mary Tyler Moore. He called me one day and said, ‘They’re going to do a sitcom with Mary Tyler Moore. Would you like a shot at the theme song?’ I said, ‘Why, sure.’ So during his lunch break, he dropped off a four-page format of what the show was about, and I called him back a couple of hours later and said, ‘Who do I sing this to?’”


    Curtis told The Austin Chronicle in 2011 that Gilmore’s show synopsis didn’t give him much to go on, which makes this lightning-speed writing session all the more impressive. “It wasn’t a script, just a description. I’ve always thought that was kinda lucky, because they didn’t give me a lot of information,” he said. “It just said, ‘A girl from the Midwest moves to Minneapolis.’ She got jilted, I believe. ‘Gets a job at a newsroom, gets an apartment she has a hard time affording.’ You know, that kinda stuff.”


    The Mary Tyler Moore Show’s executive producer, James L. Brooks, was skeptical when he was first presented with the song, according to Curtis. “He was a little bit cold,” Curtis told The Tennessean. “He said, ‘We’re not near to the stage where we need a theme song yet, but I’ll listen to what you’ve got.’ We went into this big room that was empty, no furniture. He had a couple of iron-back chairs sent in, and I sat down and sang him the theme… There was a black telephone on the floor. He picked up the phone and had some people come in, and had some more people come in. I sang it about 10 times. He said, ‘OK, I need a cassette recording machine. I need to take this to Minneapolis with me this weekend.’ I had begun to feel pretty confident.”


    Perhaps Curtis was feeling a little too confident at this point; he confessed to The Tennessean that when he found out Brooks wanted to get another vocalist to record the theme, he blurted out, “If you don’t let me sing it, you don’t get the song!” Brooks agreed to Curtis’s terms, though Curtis sheepishly told The Tennessean, “I don’t think I’d do that now.”


    And so, it all worked out, and the song changed Curtis’s life almost as much as the show changed Moore’s. Curtis started his own publishing company with Gilmore and Crickets drummer Jerry Allison — “for some reason or another at that particular time, that was the summer of 1970, they hadn’t quite caught on that publishing was that big of a deal” — and published the song himself, raking in royalties for decades. He only just sold the copyright in 2013.


    The song changed over the course of the sitcom’s seven seasons; in Season 1, the lyrics pertained to the naïve Mary’s post-breakup move to Minneapolis, opening with “How will you make it on your own?” and ending with the tentatively encouraging “You might just make it after all.” But by Season 2, Mary Richards was America’s thoroughly modern sweetheart, with a promising job at WJM-TV and her own groovy bachelorette pad, so those lines were fittingly replaced with the more optimistic (and now much more recognizable) “Who can turn the world on with her smile?” and “You’re gonna make it after all.”



    Mary’s theme (the second version, of course) has since been covered by everyone from Sammy Davis Jr. (as a 1976 disco tune!), to future American Idol vocal coach Debra Byrd (who recorded a dance version for the 1995 Isaac Mizrahi documentary Unzipped), to Minneapolis grunge-rock legends Hüsker Dü (who recreated several scenes from The Mary Tyler Moore Show opening sequence for their lo-fi “Love Is All Around” music video, and wound up being an answer on Jeopardy!). The familiar bubbling keyboard line and chorus were also sampled on 1993’s Saturation by another trio of Midwestern alt-rockers, Urge Overkill.


    But the best remake came along in 1996, courtesy of another feminist role model, the woman who could turn the world on with her sneer: Joan Jett. It’s no wonder that this grrrl-powered version was chosen as the updated theme for Moore’s 2000 TV movie with Valerie Harper, Mary and Rhoda.


    “I grew up watching The Mary Tyler Moore Show. I was inspired that women were shown as being equal to men and it had an influence on me as I became a musician. The show was groundbreaking, important, and funny,” Jett said in a statement Wednesday, speaking for all of America as she added: “I will miss Mary Tyler Moore.”
     
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    Not entirely unexpected of course but I suppose we can take some comfort in that she reached a "good age" despite having health problems all her life.

    I've been planning an MTM rewatch for some time. There'll be an unexpected poignance now when I finally get around to it.
     
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    Presumably reunited with the face of her production label, the cat named Mimsie for MTM Enterprises/Productions, who lived to 20 and passed on in 1988:

    mtmlogoremingtonsteele.jpg
     
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    One of the better network retrospectives this week (the one from CBS was sort of dreadful):

     
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    And the best part was when they had the part about MTM's production label-- they touched on several of the shows that her label was behind...

    Rhoda
    Phyllis
    The Bob Newhart Show
    Hill Street Blues
    (title card)
    St. Elsewhere (title card)

    ...and they even mentioned the logo itself, Mimsie and the trademark meow of hers, which was a parody of MGM and its lion and the lion's famous roar.
     
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    Wonderful actress so sad she has passed away.
     
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