Discussion in 'TV Central' started by Ome, Mar 13, 2019.
I can't wait, this trailer looks packed!
Looking forwards to it especially Adrian Dunbar (fella!) Just love him!
Always think Matrin Compston is the weakest link in the cast and did miss Dot Cottan last series and Keeley Hawes
Do you remember where we are in the story with the letter H ? I can't remember how it came about, other than I think it's to do with someone high up who is corrupt.
I'd need to dig out the DVD and re watch
have just watched s3 again in Corries time slot lol that was my fav series
I have just re watched S3, ep 5 and Dot Cotton has just shot wonderful - and one of my fav actresses - Keeley Hawes dead
Even you know its going to happen its still shocking, and its so tense and gripping
will cram in the ending to 3 and S4 to refresh my memory
but no way is Ted a baddy!!
Series 5 starts on March 31st, will you be done in time?
Hopefully, just finished s3, I dont know how kate managed to chase Dot Cotton
id have had a stitch!!
Downloaded S4 and watched it on the iplayer when i was on holiday
Roll on S5 tonight and 9pm
cant wait to see the plots develop, who will be the baddie and how many times will wonderful Adrian Dunbar say fella and bent Coppers
bring it on...................................
Enjoyed Sundays episode but still missisng wonderful Keeley Hawes - fast becoming my fav actress and
Craig Parkinson as DI Matthew 'Dot' Cottan. Will be interested to see how this series develops .............and will it be a classic like S2/3
Line Of Duty series 5 episode 1 spoiler theories
Spoilers ahead as we ponder how that tracker got into that burner phone in the Line Of Duty series 5 premiere…
You’ve deciphered the acronyms. You’ve learned the new character names. You’d sussed out before Kate and Steve did who the UCO really was. Right now, you’re feeling pretty good about your grasp on Line Of Duty series five. If they gave out merit badges to Line Of Duty viewers, you’d not only have one; you’d already have sewn it onto your sash.
You mean to tell me you’re not wearing a sash? Come the hell on. What is it you want? To be seen as some kind of amateur?
Prove that you’re not by solving this mystery: in the series five premiere, when Maneet was kidnapped by the OCG and discovered to have a tracking device in the burner phone they’d given her, who put it there?
Here are some options, starting with the obvious…
Maneet did it
Hypothesis: When she was kidnapped, PC Bindra was heading to AC-12 to tell them that she’d made contact with the nominal and had a plan for uncovering the gang headquarters that involved the tracking device she’d placed in her burner phone, all as a means to making up for her betrayal. She knew the jig was up the minute Corbett asked for a screwdriver.
The case against: A previously sensible officer and mother of two wouldn’t take that kind of risk with her life.
AC-12 did it
Hypothesis: When Maneet visited cousin Vihan in prison and made contact with the OCG using his instructions, she was doing it all as part of her first undercover op for AC-12. That’s what John Corbett seemed to think was happening anyway.
The case against: If AC-12 had been tracking Maneet’s movements, they’d have noticed she’d been kidnapped and mounted a rescue mission instead of tootling off to visit DSU Powell.
John Corbett did it
Hypothesis: Corbett (who’s gone fully rogue) planted the tracker in the burner phone to frame Lisa McQueen as an informer and get her out of the gang so that she doesn’t unveil his secret identity. He knew exactly what to look for, after all.
The case against: If he really has gone fully rogue, why wouldn't Corbett just cut Lisa’s throat rather than go around the houses and draw more attention to the OCG by killing another police officer?
Lisa McQueen did it
Hypothesis: Lisa planted the tracker on the phone before giving it to Maneet to keep tabs on her new informant. It was a rookie error, which is why she had a panic attack in the toilet immediately after the tracker was discovered.
The case against: admittedly, she's an adult who owns a Tiny Tears doll, yet she doesn't seem quite that dim.
The boy on the bike did it
Hypothesis: The young lad on the pushbike who chucked the Jiffy bag containing the burner mobile outside that phone box is secretly an undercover officer in his mid-thirties with a robust moisturising regime. They call him Babyface McGee, and he’s the best damn UCO on the force, godammit.
The case against: None. Seems water-tight.
Over to you.
Another great episode, just watched it again as I miss a lot 1st time round and Ted Hastings is innocent fella!
Episode two of Line of Duty season five immersed us further as AC-12 really got its teeth stuck into Operation Pear Tree - the ultra-secret case trying to establish links between corrupt coppers and organised crime syndicates. There were more thrills and spills from the BBC series as Steve Arnott (played by Martin Compston) and Kate Fleming (Vicky McClure) made some headway in the case but found some disturbing evidence along the way, suggesting the mysterious H could be closer to home than they first thought. On top of that, we learnt so much more about the ethically dubious, possibly rogue undercover police officer John Corbett (Stephen Graham) which served up the most compelling scenes in the episode.
WARNING: This article contains spoilers from Line of Duty season 5, episode 2
Last week, we were only given a taste of Graham’s ambiguous bent copper John Corbett.
We got the ruthless, thuggish John who appeared happy to kill police officers with his moral compass going haywire as he seemed to have forgotten which side he was supposed to be working for.
Graham’s performance in episode two was immense with the star stealing every single scene he was in - frankly, just give him a BAFTA now.
We got a much fuller and complex backstory for Corbett. Graham gifted us with a series of different sides to John: from the family man desperately missing his children to a policeman hellbent on taking down the head honcho of police corruption.
Line of Duty season 5, episode 2 saw Stephen Graham shine (Image: BBC)
Line of Duty season 5, episode 2 saw the tension ramp up (Image: BBC)
We were heartbroken with him as he listened to his daughters sleeping as they slept and rooting for him as he revealed his plans to Steve take down H.
Each turn presented us with a completely different character yet all contained within Corbett and all utterly believable.
The moment between Steve and Corbett was brilliant and a moment of exposition in Line of Duty, which we rarely get. Instead, this series likes to keep us in the dark before throwing in a curveball.
In the space of this one scene, Corbett was transformed from shadowy undercover cop to a heroic man on a mission - and we love him for it.
Like all Line of Duty’s chief antagonists, Corbett is just as layered as his predecessors.
But he is also a very different beast as chief antagonists go because of his insider knowledge.
After Corbett and Steve’s encounter, This Is England fans are waiting for the reunion between Graham and McClure, who rose to fame on the Shane Meadows film and TV franchise.
However, this could be tricky in itself after Steve was keeping quiet to Kate about his meeting with Corbett. His decision could come back to haunt him later, particularly if Corbett is simply playing him the whole time.
AC-12 have been feeling around in the dark for answers and finally, we seemed to get some, chiefly pointing the finger at Ted Hastings (Adrian Dunbar).
But Line of Duty creator Jed Mercurio is never predictable. As the evidence seems to stack up against Hastings, a wrecking ball is likely to come along and smash it all down in the space of just one interview scene.
Could our beloved Hastings really be H? Going on past experience, expect the unexpected with the identity of H. What’s not to say H is female and perhaps Gill Biggeloe (Polly Walker)? She seems a fairly shady figure.
As is standard Line of Duty practice, viewers were faced with another nail-biting cliffhanger. Just who did Jane Cafferty (Sian Reese-Williams) point the finger at when identifying her recruiter? Is it Hastings and is the ruse up?
Season five is building on Line of Duty’s overall story arc and you already get the sense the fallout is going to be a startling one. Next Sunday can’t come around quickly enough.
Line of Duty airs on BBC One on Sundays at 9pm
Its getting a bit convuluted and hard to follow and isnt a patch on s3 - missing Lindsay and Dot etc but its still great TV
Line Of Duty series 5 episode 3 review: past the point of no return?
There's no coming back for some in Line Of Duty's latest series 5 episode. Major spoilers ahead...
This is where zealotry gets you – to a point of no return. John Corbett knows he can’t come out of this a free man, so in his eyes, he’s going down fighting. Inflamed by an unbending sense of moral superiority over “bent coppers” (now his catchphrase, not Ted’s), Corbett has broken into an innocent woman’s home with a balaclava and a gun, set to commit a great wrong in the name of doing right.
If anything happens to Roisin, it will destroy Ted Hastings. His beloved wife in danger while he’s entertaining a lady friend in his standard single? The guilt! Why not take a hammer drill to Stone Henge and drain the Thames while you’re at it, John? The result would be the same. Hastings is a national edifice. Seeing him crumble would hurt us all.
Which is why, fluent as it is in raising the dramatic stakes, Line Of Duty continues to prod our man, sending devils like Moffatt and Bigelow into the desert to tempt him. “Haven’t we earned a paaaayday?” they ask, circling, their smirking faces looming in and out of view, “Maybe the time’s come to look after number ooooone.” “Loan facility against the crediiiit.” Will Ted survive his forty days and forty nights?
Should we even care? Didn’t episode three provide confirmation that Ted’s dirtier than a rolled-up magazine stuffed into a 1970s chain-link fence? Oh, ye of little faith. Hasting’s not the only one being tested in series five; we are too.
Short of having him glide through the back of shot wearing a top hat marked with ‘H’, this hour did everything in its power to make Ted look corrupt. He ordered raids that could mess up ongoing lines of enquiry, looked panicked at the snap of a man emerging from that brothel, looked spooked near a laptop, disposed of said laptop, ordered his team to answer what turned out to be a phony Status Zero call, didn’t answer his radio for a bit, was roughly the same height and build as DCS Hargreaves… Damning, no?
No. Not necessarily. Of course Ted looked panicked; these are panicky times. And as for the laptop disposal, what lonely man with hotel Wi-Fi hasn’t regretted the odd search term after a few too many whiskies (one piece of ice). Especially with the PCC breathing down his neck.
Besides, as established last week, User 2972 can’t be Ted Hastings because unlike User 2972, Ted Hastings would know the correct spelling of ‘definitely’ without a spellcheck, fella. In his schooldays they’d probably have whipped you for less, and you’d have been glad of it, son.
No, Ted’s not bent, but Line Of Duty is using him to play a game of moral Buckaroo! for our entertainment. How much can a mule like Ted Hastings bear before he kicks out? If dealt enough blows, could the miasma of corruption permeate even his thick hide? This drama has never dealt in moral absolutes. It’s always been about people - not all good and not all bad – making mistakes that put them under geological levels of pressure and seeing how they bear up. Poor Ted. Series five isn’t a crime thriller; it’s an act of vandalism.
This episode was thrilling, of course, in the same way that being blindfolded and bundled into a moving van must be thrilling. Things went very fast and loud, and it was tricky to keep a sense of every swerve in the road, but you knew it was absolutely vital that you did so. Director John Strickland did an excellent job with a complex series of events in the Eastfield raid playing out simultaneously at several locations. A less firm grip and we might have all been lost, but he created a sense of chaos and exhilaration without quite baffling us. (If you still have questions, perhaps this may help.)
Corbett told Steve that killing Hargreaves left him with no option but to do things ‘his way’. If that was really so, then why was he preparing his fake AC-12 ID long before Steve - as he saw it - crossed him? Corbett’s just like any of them. He needs to see himself as the good guy. Whatever course of action he takes, he justifies as the only possible choice in the circumstances.
It’s worth the sofa detectives among us remembering that Corbett’s fixation with the notion that a police officer is running the OCG is just that – a notion. He admitted as much twice this episode, telling Steve, “For all I know, there could be a bent copper at the top of the tree, pulling all the strings,” and saying “There’s a bent copper running organised crime, I’m sure of it.” Corbett’s also sure that Hastings is corrupt. Let’s not make the same mistake.
Steve avoided a mistake this week by telling Kate the identity of his CHIS (Covert Human Intelligence Source, add it to your glossary), another example of this show’s breakneck pace providing relief. Rather than his deception dragging on, it was over in a flash and we were onto the next thing.
The speed of proceedings this year is almost comic. It used to take AC-12 a whole series to get a crooked officer to confess; between Malhotra, Maneet, Cafferty and Bloom, they’ve nailed four in the last three weeks alone. If this success rate continues, by series six, great wee girl Kate will only need narrow her eyes at a passing DC in the sandwich queue and they’ll confess all.
Now that Hargreaves has been (literally) unmasked, who’ll be uncovered next?
My vote? Anyone but Ted. Definately.
Read Louisa’s review of the previous episode here
review: the past returns
History rears its head in the latest hugely tense Line Of Duty series 5 episode. Major spoilers ahead in our review…
What a thrifty seamstress Line Of Duty has been, saving up offcuts from series one and stitching them together here into something new. A complicated call-back quilt. A frilled valance of doubt.
The last time Steve received a "Fahrenheit" (shoot to kill) order, it meant the end of his career in counter-terrorism. Before he was recruited to AC-12, his unit fired at the wrong suspect and killed an innocent man. Whatever it cost his relationship with Daddy Hastings, in that tense stand-off with Corbett, he wasn't about to make the same mistake.
Superintendent Ted Hastings’ time serving in the Royal Ulster Constabulary was mentioned just once in Line Of Duty’s first series. Arguing that he was more familiar with victimisation (and therefore less likely to do it) than anyone, Ted told Steve that in his first year of service, he and his best friend from training – the only two Catholic officers in their unit – were deliberately sent by their colleagues into the path of a pipe bomb planted by a loyalist paramilitary group.
As a result, Ted spent a month in intensive care and his friend died. The duty log was destroyed and the unit colluded in a cover-up. It’s Ted Hastings’ origin story, if you like, the reason he’s devoted his career to sniffing out criminal conspiracy in the ranks of the police. Why is Ted Hastings so devoted to the rules and regs? Because he’s seen close-up what happens when they’re disregarded.
In a development more surprising than series five’s star having his throat slit with two episodes to go (at this point, the real shock would be if a Mercurio-written lead survived all six), Ted’s Northern Irish history is suddenly relevant. John Corbett started life as Belfast boy John McGillis whose father died in 1984, contemporaneously with Ted’s service in the RUC. John’s mother then died in 1989, after which point he was adopted by somebody on his dad’s side of the family.
The revelation leads us with a new mystery to solve: who were Anthony and Anne-Marie McGillis, and why did their orphaned son hold bent coppers, and Ted Hastings, responsible for what happened to his family? (“He spoke with a Belfast accent. He said you’d know why he’d done it. He said you’d know what you’d cost him.”)
It turns out that Corbett’s bitter prejudice against corrupt officers wasn’t arbitrary, but personal. Like Danny Waldron’s in series three, his was a revenge mission from childhood. Bent coppers destroyed his family – or so he believed – so he grew up to be a bent-copper-killer. He was Scouse Batman, without the cape.
Well, now he’s a wet stain on the floor. Goodbye to Operation Pear tree. Goodbye to calling Steve mate. Goodbye to Steph and the kids. Goodbye – with warm gratitude from livers around the UK – to viewers taking a drink every time Corbett said the words “bent copper”. Goodbye John.
As the man responsible for Maneet’s death and Roisin’s torture, Corbett’s death was an act of karmic balance, regrettable only because of the moving performances Stephen Graham put in on the phone to John’s wife, our sole glimpse of his authentic self (if any such thing remained).
It wasn’t as though John hadn’t been warned; in the tale of Tommy Hunter, Lisa told him what happened to rats. The moment she broke rank to negotiate a deal with that other gang should have told John that he was no longer safe. Lisa set up the fake shopping centre meet as a trap, and then set her plan in action. An unnecessarily theatrical plan, yes, but one prepared solely for our benefit. This is telly designed to thrill, after all.
Telly with a keen sense of the attention its viewers are paying. Is there another drama so confident in its obsession-making ability that it would tuck away a potentially series-defining clue in the misuse of a single vowel? Last episode, User 2972 typed “definately”. This week, impersonating User 2972, Ted Hastings typed “definately.” Ergo, Ted is User 2972 and more bent than the contents of Uri Geller’s cutlery drawer?
Still no to that, but the trial of Ted continues. Series five – painstakingly constructed to allow for dual interpretations of every move Ted makes – appears to be testing the question: how much can a good man take? Temptation, suffering, the torture of a loved one, the digging-up of old dirt… under sufficient weight, will Ted bend? The answer to that all depends on what he does with that wedge of cash. Submit it as evidence, or make it rain on his next visit to the Red Lion?
Speaking of rain, let's hear your theories on the intertextual relevance of Chicken Licken to the Line Of Duty universe. The story read aloud to John’s kids as he bled to death can’t simply have been chosen because it sounds ace in a Scouse accent. Here’s one reading: John Corbett was Chicken Licken, wanting to tell the King (prove to Steve) that the sky is falling (Ted Hastings is a bent copper), but before he’s able to, Foxy Loxy (Lisa) eats him up (has his throat slit in a surprise twist).
The sky was never falling in the first place, see. Chicken Licken had the whole thing wrong.
Read Louisa’s review of the previous episode here.
Last weeks ending was pretty shocking and made me gasp, not what I was expecting and I havent a clue who is H
Cant be Ted, please not lovely, honest, upright out to catch bent coppers Ted??
Wow. I now have no idea whether Hastings is H or not. Seems too 'simple' for that to be the case. We know this show's twists are legendary, after all.
Side note: Anna Maxwell Martin. Wow...
Totally agree re Anna Maxwell Martin, she played a blinder and was brilliant in her role as AC3
oh please tell me its not Ted, I will be devastated and need to lie down in a darkened room for a week to recover
id also like to see the smile wiped off smug Mz Bigelows face!!
Line Of Duty series 5 episode 5 review: the gaffer in a fix
Major spoilers in our review of the latest tense, gripping Line Of Duty series 5 episode...
Line Of Duty has always been a clear-eyed sceptic about the law’s ability to protect the innocent. Not for any want of doing so, but because of the ways that PR-led target culture have warped the institution’s ideals.
Its very first series showed an elderly man repeatedly harassed and robbed, but his case downgraded and ignored until he eventually fought back - and was promptly arrested for it. Last series Roz Huntley and Tim Ifield, two experienced officers who accidentally found themselves in incriminating circumstances, both decided that the odds of getting away with a cover-up were better than the odds of getting away by telling the truth.
Witnesses murdered. Prison beatings. Inside men. The vulnerable framed … There’s very little reassurance here that goodness will prosper. In a drama about the exploitation of the fallible by the unscrupulous, perhaps we’d be naïve to hope for it.
Hope we must though, more now than ever. The stakes are too high not to, because series five hasn’t just stuck any old canary down the mine to see how toxic the air is - it’s taken Ted.
Superintendent Ted Hastings in casual wear? It was like seeing Aslan shaved of his mane. This is a man who goes to nightclubs in smart slacks, a button-down shirt and a water-resistant blouson. Ted cut a sad figure in his prison jog suit and lace-less shoes. The sight of him raising his eyes to the gallery of shame as he was escorted into AC-12 for interrogation by DCS Carmichael (a brilliantly nasty turn by Anna Maxwell Martin) was perhaps sadder yet. A full 22 seconds on the pre-interview DIR tone this time, by the way - definitely a record.
AC-3: the alt-dimension AC-12. Just imagine, for all these years we could have been watching Kate, Steve and Ted’s bizarro-doubles Brandyce, Tranter and Carmichael. AC-3’s every little victory in that interrogation scene would have been ours to share instead of another stab of pain. Every smug utterance and note of fake concern in the DCS' voice would have been a win instead of a kick.
If Ted Hastings is taken down by Central Police’s Dolores Umbridge and her – admittedly persuasive thanks to Mark Moffatt’s entrapment – evidence file, then the law can't protect any of us. Ted may have gone dangerously off-script with this week’s growly voiced Clint Eastwood crime boss improv scenes (Ted unleashed. Ted afterhours. Ted too hot for TV), but he’d been pushed there by a PR-focused PCC and his gloating legal counsel.
Oh, Gill. “There’s facts, and then there’s the truth,” said ACC Hilton last series, a chilling statement that didn’t just sum up the character’s moral bankruptcy but also serves as epigram for the stream of bullshit currently flowing through real-world public office. Gill Bigeloe picked up Hilton’s turd-baton this episode with her insidious line about sometimes needing to have “a non-exclusive relationship with the truth” in the interest of maintaining public trust. Had Ted agreed to an exclusive relationship with her – the point of real power in DCC Wise’s office triangle – it’s implied that he might not be in this mess.
Ted’s love life wasn’t the only one causing problems this week. Kate’s work is still impinging on domestic bliss, while Steve’s undercover officer has been suspended from duty, the poor wee fella. It’s all gone to pot for AC-12.
The OCG aren’t faring much better, at least. Miroslav’s dead, Lisa’s in custody and Ryan’s… well, Ryan’s exams went well thanks, he’s got a date for his interview. (How anybody can accuse Line Of Duty of being humourless is beyond me. Lisa’s “I feel terrible…” as she watched Corbett’s body being dumped being followed by the punch line “I never asked about your exams” was a slyly done thing. And who wants to bet that if Ryan’s successful at interview, the next time we’ll see him will be in uniform? That would be another sly gag.)
No, none of this is lining up well for the gaffer, not to mention the potential weight of Corbett’s police informant mother’s death on his already laden shoulders. The best case scenario now: Tatleen comes through with some synthesised metadata dongles to exonerate Hastings, and Carmichael, Brandyce and Tranter are kicked back through the portal to their own dimension. Help us, Tatleen, you're our only hope.
Read Louisa’s review of the previous episode here.
And another fantastic series comes to an end. I waited until the final week before watching this series because it can get a little too complicated for me. I always thought Ted wasn't going to be 'H', it was far too obvious how much they were trying to sell the audience that he was corrupt. That's not how I think this show works. It loves to pull out all those shock twists, so if they were going with the idea that Ted was 'H' they wouldn't have made it what it was.
I loved the final reveal on who 'H' was and how it was never one person, Kate misunderstood Cotton all along and I never saw that coming.
My biggest shock was realising that Ryan (the new recruits) was the same Ryan from series 1.
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