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Joan For The Holidays

Discussion in 'Dynasty' started by Blizzard Channing, Nov 20, 2019.

  1. Blizzard Channing

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    Joan Collins on Being the New Face of Valentino and Why She’ll Never Wear Jeans
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    LIAM HESS
    November 19, 2019


    Even if Alexis Carrington’s looks in Dynasty defined an entire era of fashion, Joan Collins seems bemused when I ask her to describe her style evolution across the decades since. “I suppose I just gravitate towards whatever catches my fancy, it’s eclectic. Why, how would you describe it?” says the 86-year-old actress. “Glamorous, playful, with a bit of sparkle,” I offer. “Sequins! But, of course!”

    As the star of Valentino’s Christmas campaign, released today, Collins is capping a year in which her love for maximalist ’80s dressing (and sequins) has undergone a renaissance in the fashion world—whether in the power shoulders and eye-popping glitz of recent Saint Laurent and Versace collections, or the resuscitation of labels that defined the era, such as Mugler and Claude Montana. Then, as if to remind everyone who did it first, there was her instantly iconic red carpet moment at the Met Gala in May. With its theme of camp, all Collins really had to do was show up; thankfully, she went the extra mile, wearing a delightfully frou-frou Valentino confection that was directly inspired by her Dynasty costumes, along with a diamond tiara from her own wardrobe. “Pierpaolo [Piccioli] and I went back and forth with designs for about three months—I wanted feathers, but he didn't want feathers,” she remembers. “So I said, I really want feathers! We eventually came to an agreement.” (Needless to say, she wore feathers.)


    Her relationship with the house of Valentino extends all the way back to the ’60s, when she first visited Signor Garavani’s atelier in Rome. Over the decades, there are plenty of Valentino pieces in her wardrobe that have come and gone. “You can't keep clothes for decades,” says Collins, firmly. “They just don't look right.” There is one piece, however, that has stood the test of time. “It’s this beautiful black, shimmery, column chiffon dress I bought from one of his couture shows in the ’80s. I was talking to Valentino a few years ago before I went to some event, and I said, ‘I don’t have anything to wear!’ But he has this amazing memory, and replied, ‘Well, darling, why don't you wear that black dress you bought from the couture show in 1989?’ And I said, ‘Oh my god—you remember that?’”


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    Her love of Valentino extends to Pierpaolo Piccioli’s vision for the house, too: the video accompanying the campaign sees Joan ring the doorbell to a Christmas house party in London in a red lace dress, opera coat and gloves, paired with the diamond jewelry she wore to the Met Gala. Greeting the guests in brilliantly pithy style—“I see it’s not just the champagne that’s flat,” she quips with a raised eyebrow—things are instantly livened up with a spot of Collins-led dancing and a stack of gift boxes from Valentino’s Dante-inspired holiday gift collection.
    It seems fitting that Collins would opt for one of the label’s more classic designs, given her timeless sense of style. On the subject of the ’80s style revival, she observes that it’s never really gone away. “I think that the flamboyance of oversized earrings and ill-fitting skirts might have gone—skirts never fitted properly in the ’80s, by the way—and the huge curly hair might have gone, too. But the sleek style that I wore a lot in Dynasty, the pared-back suits but with definitive shoulders and small waists and embellishments of color and jewelry, I think smart women have been doing that through the decades.”

    She does, however, mourn the days when dressing up for the day was more of an event. “I really hope that people will spend more money on clothes, because nobody dresses up anymore. If you do, then people stare at you, or make cutting remarks… well, maybe not cutting, but they’ll say something like, ‘Oh, look at you! You're all dressed up.’ I find that very sad, because it will be the end of women buying elegant clothes in stores. Everybody’s going to end up in jeans and T-shirts, which I think is tragic.” How does she respond if someone makes a comment like that to her? “Thank you,” she says, drily.

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    Photo: Courtesy of Valentino

    This move towards more casual dressing has created a very specific bête noire for Collins. “I hate jeans. I hate them, they’re so unflattering. And I hate jeans with holes in the knees, or holes anywhere. I’m not keen on T-shirts with logos, either. I like to be comfortable, but I want to be elegant, too.” It’s something that she particularly struggles with in her adopted hometown of Los Angeles, where she has lived since the mid-’50s. “I don't really fit in with the L.A. lifestyle, because everyone's in T-shirts and jeans, and I don't like that look. Oh, and neither does Valentino, by the way. Mr Valentino is always exquisitely dressed, which I love.”

    In those sunny Californian climes, she admits it feels strange to already be getting in the festive spirit with a Christmas campaign, meaning she’s not yet ready to start thinking about gifts for the holiday season. “I haven’t really got to that, but I mainly try to tailor the gifts that I'm giving to people to the individual.” As for what’s on her Christmas list this year? “I have so much, I can’t really ask for anything. But I love to read, so I love to get an interesting biography that hasn’t been in print for a while, or a beautiful art monograph.” For those lucky enough to have Collins on their Christmas gifting list: get buying.
     
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    I'm surprised she didn't slap the blonde and go, "Shut up, Krystle!"
     
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    It's funny because she had her own line of Jeans in the 1970s.
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    And Alexis loved a good pair of Jeans when she was out in the fields or with Dex.
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    There was also a scene in Season 2 where she wore jeans in a scene with Fallon, who had just performed the walk of shame after her night with Dr. Toscanni. Alexis had invited her daughter in for some "ghastly" tea. :lol:
     
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    And she wore jeans in that scene with Claudia and her visible vagina by the pool. What brand was Joan wearing -- does anybody know, or am I going to have to break out my DVDs?

    Jordache, a fad in the late-'70s and early-'80s, were indeed horrible -- they squooshed everybody's butts, male or female, abnormally.
     
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    I have read that she used to wear Levi jeans in the '50s and '60s, men's jeans that she would sit in a hot bath with to shrink them until they fit her perfectly. I don't know what she wore on Dynasty though.
     
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    Nice little video. Dex and Blake! :lol:
    I think she wouldn't like me much because most of my jeans have holes somewhere (mostly the knees) and i always wear t-shirts with cool logos with my jeans.
    I think i'm in jeans and t-shirt 99% of the time, and i LOVE IT! :D
     
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    Yea I am also more of a jeans guy and ripped jeans have been in for a while now. Ripped skinnies most of the time for me. Although it's a bit cold for that now.
     
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    Her own brand actually. ;)
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    OMG!! Alexis is a Joan Collins fan!!
     
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    Art imitates Life.
     
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    Well, if Alexis can sit around her art studio watching LOVE BOAT, there's no reason she can't watch DYNASTY.
     
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    To be fair, jeans are not the only culprit:

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    When one Peacock plucks another!
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    She only doesn't like jeans anymore, because she's too old to wear them properly. :p
     
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    Yea, she's not the same size she once was so denim isn't that flattering on her anymore. I mean in her defence it doesn't look that great on many over 70. It just seems wrong.

    I also am not so sure about her claims that Valentino suggested she wear a dress she bought from him in 1988 to an event she was going to recently. I mean she was about a size 8 in 1988. So that's just not gonna be something that could have been done. And about 6 or 7 years ago she did a spread in HELLO where she said she was wearing all her old DYNASTY outfits. A few pieces were from the show, but not all of it. And I think it was more from The Reunion. There is no way she was fitting into her DYNASTY duds then either.
     
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    Wonder what the source of Joan's hatred for jeans really is?



    Diamond rings, torn up jeans...
    Passion! With a capital P!
     
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    Joan still looks glamorous, but this is the first time she’s looked like a glamorous octogenarian.
     
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    Her vagina was visible? Or the contours of her vulva were visible? If it’s the former, how did they disguise the use of clamps?
     
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