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Classic Soaps (I'm Still) Watching Another World

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    Yes, I watched it. It was....frustrating, what with all the technical SNAFUs. It reminded me of the conference calls I used to have at my job ("Can everybody hear me?/I didn't hear you/What did you say?") where one hour on the phone yielded about three minutes of actual productive interaction. LD does not know how to sit still, does she? :D

    But hey, everyone tried! I was really saddened about the news of David Forsyth. He's always been such a private person that if AKH had not mentioned it, I never would have known. Google doesn't even know it (I checked). LD said that John Aprea was also recovering from a stroke. I'm impressed by how Amy C manages to stay so grounded despite having made a decent name for herself in primetime TV. She also does.not.age. Did you notice how no one really liked/likes Tom Eplin? They had an idea where he might be, but not interested enough to dig him up. I was surprised when Joe said he wanted to work with Jensen Buchanan more, since she had a similar reputation for not being very well liked. Of course we all know what she has been up to....:eek:

    I think Vicky Wyndham had become very disenchanted with NBC and with P&G by the end of the series, given how they treated the show. Even in her professional tone, she mentioned in interviews that she felt like a weight had been lifted when they announced the cancellation, that they'd been wanting to 'get rid of us' for years. She was offered roles several times in the years after, but she always turned them down.
     
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    I'd like to think that Fanny has stayed in touch with everyone.
     
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    Yes, she was Bay City's resident Yenta, God love 'er. I'm just glad she didn't start crying. Remember how the snot flowed like a river every time she started getting upset?

    When Amy Carlson was discussing her first day on the show, I totally remembered the situation she described. It was a large party scene at TOPS, and the poor girl had to name-check virtually every character on the show, as Josie already knew (or was known) to everyone. Carlson had to memorize all these characters and try to play her material as Josie would know them (friend? foe? In-between?). They put her in a slightly too-revealing dress and high heels because Josie had secretly been working in LA as an 'escort' and was 'on a date' at the party.
    Poor thing was pretty terrible in her first month or so, but got really good once she got used to the pace. I wish someone had brought up how the show hired her doppelganger (an actress named Nadine Stenovitch) when Carlson left--the woman looked so much like Carlson that some fans didn't even know she'd been replaced at first.

    Ah, nostalgia--today is Another World's anniversary, having premiered on May 4, 1964. The entire show revolved around the Matthews family back then, and when the show went off the air in 1999 only one Matthews family member was left in the cast--Russ's daughter Josie!

     
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    I went looking for that scene, Carlson's first as Josie, and it sent me into an Another World wormhole. I emerged in 1987 where Donna, or someone claiming to be Donna, is making some very surprising accusations about her brother-in-law John Hudson. I don't recall this being brought up during my previous stay in Bay City, John and Donna had quite a nice bond so the idea of John forcing himself on Donna comes as quite a shock. I'll just put it down to Donna not quite being herself.

    Anyway, John has being missing for 20 years and Michael is on the verge of finally tracking him down which has sent Donna into a tailspin. Her father, a delightful moustache twirling villain, is leading her to believe that John is really the father of her twin daughters, Anne and Marley Heche. I may have to keep watching...

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    That is a delightful period of AW storytelling, Faux!Donna excepted, of course. Reginald was like a cardboard cut-out, but fun anyway.

    * The whole "John might be the twins' father" is a story they dreamed up to address the scene which sent Real!Donna over the edge and into an institution the year before. Reginald drugged her and showed her a photograph that caused her to have a breakdown. Conventional wisdom at the time was the photo was of her with three babies (the third was Scott LaSalle), since Real!Donna was carted away clutching three little pillows and moaning "my babies" over and over in Anna Stuart's final scene. When they decided against pursuing that angle, they wrote that Reginald had shown her a (doctored) photo of "John holding the twins". Of course John was not even around when the twins were born, but she was loopy on drugs and likely had been thinking all those years that John might be the father of her twins, so the guilt pushed her over.
     
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    Yes, it has made for an enjoyable lockdown visit to Bay City.

    I remember that now, I think you posted about it in the old thread.

    And the photo of John and the twins has come up in the scenes I've recently watched. Donna wants to believe it's photoshopped.

    Michael, Donna, Mitch and Fanny have now tracked John down in Thailand where he is being held by the fat man...
     
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    The image of Felicia trying to remain fashionable in the Thai jungle will never not be funny. Nor will the "Thai jungle" sets constructed in that Brooklyn studio.

    I think Anne Heche and David Forsyth got hired at around the same time, so Rhonda Lewin's Vicky must have already faded away.
     
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    I have a huge soft spot for 1987. After years of watching Another World only during summers or on days off from school, 1987 was the year my family got a VCR and the first time I was able to watch AW on a daily basis. I really enjoyed the Lisa, Jamie, Vicky triangle (in spite of Laurence Lau) that starts sometime around that time frame and as a kid I found the Sin Stalker story really exciting.

    I'm currently working my way through the 1983 episodes. Rachel and Steve have just been in a car accident. Steve is dead and Rachel will end up being blind. Richard Beakins, easily my favorite Jamie, has been excellent learning his father is dead (again). Constance Ford is out ill and someone else is playing Ada for these scenes.

    I've seen the introduction of both Felicia and Donna in these episodes and Cass is flitting between Felicia and Cecile. It was interesting/strange watching Felicia coming on to Jamie, groping him right there in front of Kyra Sedgewick. I don't blame Felicia--Richard Beakins is hot, but it just felt weird seeing Jamie and Felicia in that context. Blaine and Sandy and friends are gearing up for a custody battle with Cecile over Maggie but unfortunately I don't think the trial episodes are online. I've seen a clip from the trial and it looked fun.

    This is my first time seeing the original Stacy Winthrop. She's fantastic--feisty and strong and smart. She really puts Hillary Edson's version to shame.
     
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    In 1987, I recall being so darn proud of myself when I theorized Dr. Alan Glaser was the Sin Stalker and it proved to be him after all. I'd known the actor playing him had been a longtime star of the cancelled The Doctors, and thought that an established star like him would not be signed on just to play some peripheral psychiatrist character. Granted, holding FauxDonna's hand during her constant screaming-in-terror jags was a full-time job in and of itself.

    If you look really close, a lot of the Sin Stalker storyline's various twists and turns mirrors the twists of the killing spree at Bay City General in the mid-1990s, since both stories were written by Maggie DePriest. Only the SS story was much, MUCH better.

    Regarding 1983, I recall in the chat @Canon posted above, Stephen Schnetzer briefly name-checked Richard Bekins because the producers at the time had him appear in 120 or so episodes in a row. Good lord, I'm surprised anything was left but an empty husk after a run like that. How on Earth would the actor's union allow that to happen? I mean obviously he was immensely popular but that's like six months in a row of appearing in every episode.

    Oh, and "original" Stacey Winthrop was played by Terry Davis, who had just left a very popular run as April Cavanaugh Scott on The Edge of Night. I loved her run as April on that show, since she was usually in the center of the action. Her housekeeper tried to kill her; April's husband was accused of killing April's mother; she came thisclose to having an affair while her husband was presumed dead...all the good stuff. Stacey Winthrop was probably a welcomed break from all that intrigue.
     
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    Stacey hasn't been involved in anything nearly so exciting. as April but I'm still really liking her. She is currently involved with Mark Singleton, who I believe she ends up marrying and having a child with and then returns to town with Hillary Edson's face and Mark and child are dead.

    I'm really enjoying the 1983 episodes. I wish there were more of them. The cast is mainly the people I love--Donna, Felicia, Cecile, Cass, Sally, Peter, Mac, Rachel, Blaine, Sandy, Larry, Clarice etc. I'm mainly familiar with the final Peter and am becoming a fan of this nicer, handsomer Peter and his relationship with Sally. Mary Page Keller is so likable that I can see why Sally was such a popular character. A lot of the episodes online have revolved around solving Alma's murder and Cass and Cecile trying to wriggle out of being convicted of killing her. Nicole is being played by Kim Morgan Greene, which I believe is cocaine addict Nicole. Donna and Felicia and Cass and Cecile all mixed together has been pure delight. I just finished watching Mac and Rachel and Blaine and Sandy's double wedding.

    Nu-Jamie has turned up. The show must have really felt Jamie was an extremely important character to the show. They used Beakin's Jamie so much and then didn't wait very long after Beakins left to replace him with Yates. And then Lau and Todd. Jamie was never really off the canvass for more than a year or so.

    Julia has been a character I knew about but hadn't watched before. Both actresses have been very good in the role and the character has been well used, mixed in with Cass and Felicia. I can't remember what happens to her. Does she get murdered or something?

    I only have one more 1983 episode left. There's been a lot of good stuff going on in Bay City during this year. I'm finding it extremely enjoyable. I'll start 1984 in a day or two. I know things start going downhill from now through 86 or 87. I'm curious what I'll make of 84 and 85.


    She did the same thing to Peter a few episodes back -- grabbing his knee. and Sally had to rescue Peter from her. Peter told Sally he had a meeting with Felicia and Sally warned Peter that Jamie had told her she was a knee grabber. It was funny and a nice call back to that earlier scene with Jamie and Felicia.
     
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    Yes, she was murdered. I think she learned too much about Carl Hutchins's plans for the Bay City-zens and he had her killed.

    Originally, Felicia was supposed to be their version of Jacqueline Susann (the writer who created Felicia had been RL friends with Susann), so all the knee-grabbing and overt behavior was just her being 'inappropriate' in an era when such grab-assery was not all that shocking. And Peter was kind of stiff back then (pun intended) so having this brash woman in feathers and sequins all over him was probably slapstick-y as hell. Donna got all the charisma in that family. ;)

    + 1 in the Mary Page Keller Love. She has an amazing camera presence, just as Joanna Going did later on as Lisa Grady. They could be goody-goodys but still have lots of charisma.
     
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    Yes, he struck me as being more than a peripheral character so I googled him and that's how I discovered he was the killer. I was fast forwarding through this story as I didn't recognise any of the characters involved but I regret having spoilt it for myself now as it seems fun. The most recent episode I watched had everyone stranded at the Cory Mansion during a storm as the stalker watches from outside while the finger of suspicion is currently being pointed at Richard Burgi.

    I'm tempted to seek these episodes out now too, just as well lockdown is coming to an end!
     
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    "The Big Reveal" was quite the spectacle. The Stalker was wearing a ski mask when he kidnapped FauxDonna and took her to a lighthouse with John in hot pursuit. Despite John's mobility problems he and the Stalker ended up at the top of the lighthouse where they wrestled around as John yanked off the ski mask. The viewer (and John) caught a quick glimpse of Dr. Glaser before....well, it got even more photogenic. Those were the days when they could splurge on outdoor remotes.

    So crank up the volume, forgive some wonky editing and watch:

     
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    John took a trip back to his old High School, reminiscing about his glory days as 'My Hometown' by Springsteen plays over. In the Gym he runs into Randy, Charlie Wade's boyfriend from Dallas. I wonder what became of him...



    I quite like angry, tormented John. Seen as she hated nice guy John so much, I think Sharly would have really dug this side of him.
     
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    Forsyth had played upstanding, heroic types on both As the World Turns and Search for Tomorrow before getting the John Hudson role, so it was probably fun for him to play sarcastic, bitter John. And frankly Michael was so insufferable in that period that I enjoyed him throwing Michael's attempts at reconciliation in Michael's face (and trying to seduce FauxDonna when no one was looking). The Love family was slowly being shifted to the Hudson family as the counter-balance to the Corys, and the addition of John (as well as Michael and John's mother Clara) seemed to make up for the gradual disappearance of Reginald and Peter.

    Of course over time the real personalities of the actors tend to "leak through" in many cases, so John eventually became something of a "pillar of the community" despite never actively seeking that role (unlike his brother). And of course he and Sharlene were a solid gold pairing.
     
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    Someone on Facebook (and we know how reliable that is) claimed that Tom Eplin is now a cab driver
     
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    In the late 2000s one of the ATWT actors he'd kept in touch with said that he was indulging his love for flying planes, that he had owned a couple of planes even when still appearing on ATWT and AW. The feeling I got was that he had invested or otherwise took good enough care of his soap money to indulge in an expensive hobby. Obviously things can happen to change one's financial status, but it would have to be a serious shift of fortunes. Unless he pilots his private jet(s) like a cab driver for rich people. :)

    From the evasive way the AW actors (except Joe Barbara) behaved when the moderator mentioned TE, I can only guess he was not the most popular guy on set.
     
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    Wasn't Robert Kelker-Kelly working as a pilot when GH brought him on as Nikolas's father?
     

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