I never interpreted it like Val's brain virus was going to break them up. I just thought it was one of those bad times that they had to go through together. I do agree however that they should have gotten back together again after Gary was divorced from Abby and Ben had deserted Valene. The way they had her fall for Danny instead who turned out to be a real psycho didn't make any sense. Especially since everything in the first half of season nine was leading up to a reconcilation. So surely it would have been better if they had been properly back together again after this instead of it being just a weak moment... At this point Gary wanted to get back together with Valene and even broke up with Jill to be with her. But then Valene brushed him off after Jill had confronted her about it. So apparently Val didn't want them to get back together. Why do you think that was? I think that Valene was afraid to let Gary in again only to have him leave her again. So she'd rather be the one who would hurt him. At least that's the way I interpreted it. I remember that scene, such a wicked way to pry about Gary and Valene's relationship. I never thought Ben left for good either. But the first time I watched the show I was glad to see him go since I wanted Val and Gary together and I didn't like how Ben cheated on Val with Cathy or the whole Jeanne Hackney plot. The second time around I grew to love Ben and was sad to see him leave. Yeah Val had a lot of backbone and always learnt from her experiences and grew stronger all the time. I liked that scene in Jill's office when she was all like "it's not gonna be poor Val anymore. From now on it's gonna be poor Jill" and Jill was completely fearing what Valene might do to her. Yet I never thought Valene was capable of murder so when Jill suddenly turned up in the trunk of Gary's car it sure puzzled me as I couldn't figure out who had killed her and planted the body there! Did you figure it out the first time you saw it or was it a twist you didn't see coming? Also it's sort of funny how so many pieces of Jill's perfect crime backfired on her. I mean first of all, her intended victim survived and could tell on her. Then her alabi had a STD and wanted her and Gary to get tested for it. I think that part was hilarious! Oh yeah the way he murdered Ciji because she refused to have an abortion was ruthless. Or maybe it was because she threatened to expose his real identify? I agree, Ciji was more innocent and sweet somehow. Cathy had already spent time in jail before she came to Knots Landing and that experience made her tougher. In a way Cathy and Joshua was completely mismatched and it seemed like he was the sweet and innocent one whereas she was the seductress that brought him down with her. Yet their relationship completely changed once they were married and he became the abusive, controlling partner. I think the problem was that Diana loved Chip. I think he was her first love really so a part of her thought it was romantic that he would do anything for her. Yet the more logical part of her knew he was a bad guy and that she should get away from him. So Diana was torn between her love for Chip and her knowledge of what was right. Torn between her lover/husband and her family. Unfortunately I thought that plot ruined Diana's character. Up until that point I thought she was smart and someone I could identify with, after that I thought she was stupid and annoying. I think you are probably right about that since I didn't even realize he was a villain until he'd been on the show for a whole season. I just thought of him as a con-man. But not really a villain. I guess that was one of the Knots strenght that they didn't always let their audience in on who was a bad guy until later on. So when Chip and Jill first showed up we couldn't know how crazy they would turn out to be. I remember I even liked Danny when he first showed up. But at least with him he showed his true colors faster than Chip or Jill and everyone could tell what a jerk he was. Everyone except Val that was who still went ahead and married the guy even after everybody told her not to! I guess Joshua must have held a lot of resentment inside of him for his mother abandoning him as a child. It must have completely messed him up. Also his father hitting him didn't help either. I guess it taught Joshua not to trust in people. I think a part of Joshua's problem was that he had lacked his mother all his life and probably had thought to himself that if only his mother hadn't died when he was a baby he would have been happier. So Joshua finds out that his mother didn't die and got to move in with her and have a relationship with her. That should have made him feel happy and contented but it didn't since instead it made him resent his mother for abandoning him. On top of that he felt guilty for sleeping with Cathy without being married to her since he thought it was a sin. Or at least that's what his father had taught him. So Joshua basically learnt that everything he had believed in all his life had been a lie and that brought out an identity crisis where he had to figure out who he was. That he also became famous at that point didn't help at all. Then as for Chip and Joshua's deaths, Lilimae did react differently to them both. With Chip she had tried to kill him herself when he was released for Ciji's death and refused to take responsibility after she had talked to him. It made her realize what a cold man he was. So when he finally died a part of her thought that he had gotten what was coming to him. Yet she was still sad since she had loved him like a son. I think that showed in that scene where she's talking to him when he's in the coffin. Still I think her grief over Joshua was harder for her to bear, since at least with Chip she knew that she had done what she could to save him. But with Joshua she had failed him as a mother so she blamed herself for her son's suicide/accident. She blamed herself so much that she didn't even want to admit that Joshua had wanted to die. It was easier for her to believe it was an accident and she was even willing to let another man go to jail for murdering her son even when she knew all along how Joshua had died since she was there. So it took Val for her to realize that she had to tell the police what she knew. Also what made Joshua's death worse was that she had to also answer to Joshua's father, who blamed her for their son's death. Good point. In Sweden you have to be 18 to get married. However you are allowed to get married earlier if you have your parents consent. I have a friend who got married when she was 16, unfortunately by the time she was 23 she was already divorced. Personally I think it would be better if the legal age to get married would be 21 since when you are a teenager you are not mature enough to make those kind of lifelong decisions. Your brain is not even fully developed until you are 20. So you make hasty decisions that are not very rational. But maybe that's just my opinion. I do have another friend who got married at 18 and who is still happily married to her husband. So I guess it does work out for some people to get married young.