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Falcon Crest Without Angela

Discussion in 'Falcon Crest' started by Angela Channing, Nov 14, 2019.

  1. Angela Channing

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    I think most Falcon Crest fans would agree that the main, although not the only, weakness of the final season of Falcon Crest was the absence of Angela Channing because the character was such an integral part of the show. However, in season 5 when Angela was written out for a couple of episodes due to Jane Wyman having issues with her health, the show was still very good. In many ways Peter Stavros became Angela Channing, running Falcon Crest while assuming a role as the head of the family and it worked very well. I wish the producers had taken inspiration from that period when they were planning season 9 and done something similar to cope with Jane's absence.

    Do you think Falcon Crest would have continued to work without Angela Channing being involved?
     
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  2. Arlene Halloran

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    No, not for any considerable amount of time. FC had a last throw of the dice late in 1989 and if it wasn't ruined before then Charley & co. let the slide continue, not that this was their intention I'm sure. The show centred around Angela, even when characters played by old Hollywood stars joined the show. Mrs. Channing always in the end got the upper hand, didn't she.
     
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  3. Falcon Crest I

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    Instead of a comatose Angela for the most of season 9 she should have took the plunge and went to Greece to visit Stavros. Realistically I don't believe FC would've continued to work, without her involvement. Incidentally what a way Angela negotiated with Lance and Richard for the future, before season 9 set off into the sunset.
     
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  4. Toni

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    I don´t know. The point is that FC was agonizing since Chase disappeared in the SF Bay. With good writers and a great showrunner, it could have transitioned into a next generation show with no need of Sharpes or St. Jameses. Knots Landing did survive to Donna Mills´ departure for 4 years by clearly giving as much relevance to Paige and co. as to the original cast. Too bad they didn´t really try hard with Olivia, Brian or Michael.

    The last season needed Cole, Vickie and Julia back, and maybe keeping Samantha Ross in it too. They couldn´t use properly the cast they had: Frank, Emma, and Lance were given pathetic plots and shown the door too quickly. It turned into The Gregory Harrison Show and David Selby didn´t look like the Richard we all loved to hate. They clearly wanted us to despise the show before it got canceled and they succeeded!

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    When she disappeared from the hospital, she should have used that gun and shot to death all the outsiders from that season...and get away with it of course. ​
     
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  5. Brian Kinney

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    Peter Stavros worked well because he had other characters around him who trusted him. He also was respected as a successful business man. In the final season they should have given Lance the role of running Falcon Crest and Emma being the head of the family with the support of Pilar and Frank. Having those St. James guys taking over Falcon Crest so fast was ludicrous. Lance, Emma and Richard would have stopped that takeover in all other seasons due to the writers because they learned from Angela - and Richard even more so from his many experiences with evil elements. If they needed another threat to the family they still could have used Michael Sharpe. Yes, FC without Angela could have worked with other writers. To me the decline started with Melissa's death (just after getting some new relatives which could have set her in a new direction) not Angela being absent. Maggie's drowning was the final straw where I realized it's over.
     
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  6. Jock Og

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    We were used to Angela running the operation and as good as Peter Stavros was during her temporary absence the grape granny was the person who knew best. Mrs. Channing was tough, her knowledge of the wine industry top notch and heaven help anyone who stepped on her toes. As interesting as it would be to view a Richard versus Cole battle over the vineyards and winery; 30 years after the original, the cork is likely to remain on the bottle. Angela rightly pointed out that FC was hers and alas no Angela = no real FALCON CREST.


    Angela steps outside to the vineyards, once Lauren and Richard are married. She reminisces and in doing so the final scene happens. The cast and crew have a party, once the series cameras stop rolling. Main actor Jane Wyman speaks about the show concluding, ('behind the scenes' from season 9, 1989 - '90):

    Chao-Li Chi gives her a peck on the cheek and then Jane continues;

    "It's a funny feeling because you wake up and you say that I'm not going to see my friends again. You know because I've never done anything, this long. I just wanted to say thank you and offer you all the gratitude, in the world."
     
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    One thing for sure Angela and even Julia wouldn't have let Michael Sharpe anywhere near FC. Emma became tougher than Lance and Richard combined, although not tough enough.
     
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    The fact was Angela had to be gone, so they should have set it up better than they did. Angela fakes her death and sets up a series of events to test her family for who ever is best to run Falcon Crest. I think the opposite of Dallas would have been a good idea, Richard and Lance working together. That was the best part of season 9 to me. I’d have had Richard and Maggie and boys move into Falcon Crest, Maggie taking up the matriarch role, Richard running the business, splitting Angela’s character. Lance would take the Chao-Li’s role as side kick, and the boys in Angela’s daughters positions. With a new direction Susan Sullivan night have stayed. So then a new sex symbol to take Lance’s original role and we’d be off and running with a reset. Maybe Richard had an older son he’d kept hidden all these years that now that he has his family he brings to Falcon Crest as big brother and heir apparent.

    Now the foil could be anyone but not the main focus we got from Sharpe and we could feel Angela pulling the strings from out of sight, much like Jock.

    I’d have tied Knots Landing and Falcon Crest, maybe a merger to create ChanningSumner. Maybe Abbey showing up on Falcon Crest trying to entice Richard, ending up in bed with Lance. Pilar dead. Maggie helping raise Lisa. Something fun.

    This would have been the time to expand on Chao-Li’s family. His son the head of an original Hong Kong trading house. Maybe focus on other business interests for a bit over who controls Falcon Crest for the time being.

    I think what they did was implode when what they should have done was return to their roots and move forward - IMO.
     
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    cast for a reset without Angela:

    Angela: Richard (run the business of Channing Enterprises), Maggie (the matriarch sitting in Angela’s desk over seeing the Channing Foundation and several projects in the Tuscany Valley) and Aunt Emma (providing long history and formal theatrics of woman of means)

    Julia and Emma: the boys (though younger) and add Lance’s daughter Lisa

    Chao-Li: Lance (with Emma and Richard each owing 1/3 of Falcon Crest) Lance, like his mother, oversees wine production as well as the side kick to Richard, Maggie and Emma (Chao-Li still around to carry out Angela’s instructions and run the household)

    Lance: Henri (age 21 Richard’s son from an unseen woman who comes to see Maggie as his mother, and like Lance a playboy attempting to own his role as heir, do add drama he’d be dark and of mysterious ethnicity, speaking several languages including English, French, Italian, Spanish, Arab, Russian, Chinese, etc. along with being gay or bisexual)
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    Foil (originally Chase, Maggie, Cole and Vicki provided the foil, the regular people, good buys who show up to spoil things): played by members of Chao-Li’s family (Asian), the Rosemont family (Black) and tie ins to Knots Landing:

    Chase: Dia Li (Chao-Li’s son, showing up to claim a piece of Falcon Crest, his grandfather helped save the winery during prohibition through a trade deal with Hong Kong. He claims the family bought half of Falcon Crest. Chao-Li, a devout Buddhist monk, claims no tie to worldly possessions shows he turned over his half to Angela’s father years ago)
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    Maggie: Caroline Rosemont (daughter of Rosemont, powerful business woman seeking revenge on the Channings, teaming up with Dia)
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    Cole: Brian Cunningham (Berkeley undergrad, becomes involved with Henri Channing)
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    Vicki: Ashley Scott (college friend of Brian’s)
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