Eurovision Song Contest

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  1. Willie Oleson

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    TABOO from Malta is very style over substance, which is perfectly OK as long as it's my style - and this isn't.
    Let's never speak of this song again.
     
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    HIGHER GROUND from Denmark is a total cheesefest, but there's a nice song buried underneath all that anthemic spectacle, like a slow version of What Shall We Do With The Drunken Sailor?
     
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    BONES from Bulgaria, a gothic electro-folk song, in some parts it reminds me of Enya but of course they couldn't resist BELTING OUT the chorus, which makes it kinda generic and to be honest not so ver pleasant. Nice try, though.
     
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    LOST AND FOUND, from Macedonia. With the emphasis on timbre and vocal range I'm not very fond of the solo parts, but the chorus is very catchy.
    Maybe Bulgaria and Macedonia could swap choruses then we'd have one great song.
     
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  5. Willie Oleson

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    WHO WE ARE from San Marino. It would be very cruel (to her and to us) to put her on the stage of the grand finale.
     
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  6. Willie Oleson

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    I'm baaaaaack!

    MALL, from Albania. Nothing special about this song but audiences these days love to be bedazzled by Power Vocals - and to hell with harmony!

    QAMI, from Armenia. This sounds like Big Drama (well, let's hope it's not a happy song) and it's just very draining since the song doesn't go anywhere.

    ONIRO MOU, from Greece. This is a song that could grow on me, and I appreciate the folklore elements. Maybe it would have been better with a soprano vocalist.

    STONES, Switzerland. Not bad for a contemporary pop song. Is it just me or are there a lot of bones and stones songs this year?



    The winners are (in no particular order):
    -BELGIUM (A Matter Of Time)
    -AUSTRIA (Nobody But You)
    -NORWAY (That's How You Write A Song)
    -BELARUS (Forever) (would like to hear Marc Almond singing this song)
    -AUSTRALIA (We Got Love)
    -FRANCE (Mercy)


    The songs that definitely shouldn't win:
    -ISRAEL (Toy)
    -LITHUANIA (When We're Old)
    -AZERBAJAN (X My Heart)
    -FINLAND (Monsters)
    -ROMANIA (Goodbye)
    -MALTA (Taboo)
    -SAN MARINO (Who We Are)
    -ARMENIA (Qami)

    Everything else is OK, OK-ish or at least not awful.
     
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    Thank you for all of your reviews of the songs @Willie Oleson
    I enjoyed reading them more than I enjoyed watching the contest. ;)

    So should we make a wild guess that Israel will win on Saturday? :Clol:
    I hope not but it wouldn't surprise me. That is the song that got stuck on my mind after yesterday's competition. Lucky me!
     
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    Actually I think it's not a bad year, I don't think I've ever had 6 strong favourites - and I haven't heard the songs from the second semi-finale yet.
     
  9. Willie Oleson

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    FOR YOU from Georgia. The music is full of little surprises (maybe you won't hear it without headphones) but even in 1966 this would have been considered a snoozefest.

    UNDER THE LADDER from Ukraine is very energetic but they've had an entire year to write this song so I expect more than the "uh-oh-oh-oh" that I can hear in almost every current pop song (since 2011!)

    STORM from the UK is a very nice poppy bopper, somehow I suspect they went out of their way to adjust to the popular ESC sound but if it's good it's good. I'll be waiting for the PWL remix.

    OUTLAW IN 'EM from The Netherlands. Waylon wants to do his own thing and that's admirable and in essence I think it's a good song (the awkward fake-American accent notwithstanding) but it puzzles me why this song was submitted in the first place. Nobody's interested in this "Highway To Hell" sound, in other words: we'll be outlawed, we're toast.

    FUNNY GIRL from Latvia. I think this is very good but I struggle with the R&B sound. An 80s jazzy version would have been better.

    NON MI AVETE FATTO NIENTE (I think?) from Italy. According to the video it's about all the horrors in the world, that's quite a theme but since it's sung in Italian it's easy to ignore.
    It has a very pleasant sound and adds something different to the mix while keeping that European feel intact. I'm getting a lot of creative vibes from this year's contest.

    However, there's nothing creative coming from Russia as I WON'T BREAK sounds like a sequel to the excruciatingly awful "Million Voices" from 2014-ish.

    Montenegro goes musical with INJE and I find it très, très misérable.

    LIGHT ME UP from Poland is a generic dance tune, with the emphasis on generic.

    O JARDIN from Portugal sounds like a mash-up of various well-known songs but I can't figure out which ones. It's all very sweet and gentle but lacks identity.

    New list!!

    The winners are (in no particular order):
    -BELGIUM (A Matter Of Time)
    -AUSTRIA (Nobody But You)
    -NORWAY (That's How You Write A Song)
    -BELARUS (Forever) (would like to hear Marc Almond singing this song)
    -AUSTRALIA (We Got Love)
    -FRANCE (Mercy)
    -UK (Storm)
    -ITALY (Non Mi Avete Fatto Niente)

    The songs that definitely shouldn't win:
    -ISRAEL (Toy)
    -LITHUANIA (When We're Old)
    -AZERBAJAN (X My Heart)
    -FINLAND (Monsters)
    -ROMANIA (Goodbye)
    -MALTA (Taboo)
    -SAN MARINO (Who We Are)
    -ARMENIA (Qami)
    -RUSSIA (I Won't Break)
    -MONTENEGRO (Inje)

    Hm. It's not a great year for Eastern-Europe. Maybe next year!
    And the winner is...










































    Congratulations, FRANCE! You've created a true ESC evergreen. Well done et bravo!:jum:
     
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    It's so funny to read all the YouTube comments and predictions. They're all very bitchy and competitive - not my kind of people at all.
    So..."Toy" seems to be very popular and I must admit it is catchy in a cheesy, so-bad-it's-good sort of way. I don't mind these gimmicks, they've been part of the ESC for decades.
    I think it all started with Boum Badaboum

    I assume it means something like "boom boom boom let's go back to my room". Either way, there's something provocative about it which means that musicality is being perceived from a different angle i.e. doing something "unique".
    And this music vs. uniqueness issue has become an ongoing battle in the ESC universe, and it makes it so much harder to rate the songs, or, as some people like to call it: acts.
    But is it the Eurovision Acts Contest?

    But I do know this: it's going to be mega mega exciting!

    p.s. America, don't try this at home.
     
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    Oh noos! The finale is this Saturday!

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    My reaction exactly when I first heard about it. ;)
     
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    I must honestly say that I think Country music is a daring choice for the Eurovision song contest, but I think it's a great song by Waylon, better than last year. But Waylon has, after my opinion, a chance, he has a great singing voice and knows what he can and can not do on stage.

    Furthermore, I did not heard much from other countries, so I let myself be surprised by what will happen next Saturday. ;)
     
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    It's been done before, but there's a difference between schlager-country and rock country.

    "Our" Calm After The Storm was a beauty and also the best song for 2014, unfortunately the public favoured Conchita's statement act, he didn't win with his song.
    It's a dark page in the history of Eurovision and I rather not think about it anymore.
    I had to lie down for a moment and I just woke up with a Eurovision medley going on in my head.
    The fact that these songs already sound so very familiar only confirms my impression that this is one of the strongest competitions we've ever seen.

    There's also some clever sampling going on but it could be accidental of course. "Outlaw In 'Em" sounds like "Paradise City" (Guns N Roses).
    I guess the number of chord combinations isn't unlimited, and eventually everything will sound a little bit like something else. It's not going to be a deciding factor for me.

    I no longer agree with my lists, and some Eastern-European entries should be on that Winners List:

    Franka's "Crazy" - CROATIA
    The sultry sound reminds me of Sam Brown's "Stop".

    Mikolas Josef's "Lie To Me" - CZECH REPUBLIC
    I think it has more radio-play longevity than Norway's "That's How You Write A Song" (which is getting annoying pretty fast).

    For some reason I missed DoReRos' "My Lucky Day" (MOLDOVA) and it's very good in the eurodance genre.

    "Bones" by Equinox is just so mesmerizing in some parts, I'm going to add it to the winners list too.

    I like the song from ITALY but their live performance was awful, just awful.


    "Funny Girl" (LATVIA) and "Forever" (BELARUS) are great songs, but these vocalists are not the best choices. Not because they can't sing, but because their voices don't suit the songs.
    "Funny Girl" needs a breezy and more relaxed voice (I'm thinking of Sam Brown again) and what hinders "Forever" is the fact that they make him do these vocal acrobatics, and the poor guy is so, so nervous. I would have preferred a duet performance.

    I'll try to compile my definite Favourites Top 10 but it's going to be very difficult. @Karin Schill have you heard all the songs yet, maybe you could post your top 10 too?
     
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    Eurovision 2018: What these six UK entrants know now
    By Lucy Todd Entertainment reporter
    • 10 May 2018
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44041137
    The Eurovision Song Contest is almost upon us and the UK's entrant SuRie will already be limbering up in Lisbon ahead of Saturday's grand final.

    Some of the UK's former competitors have spoken about their Eurovision experience and what their favourite memories from the show were - even if the vote wasn't kind to them.

    So, who looks back with bittersweet feelings? Who were the most competitive countries and which competitor had Simon Cowell on their team?

    BBC News spoke to six of the UK's previous Eurovision acts and found out what advice they would give to SuRie.

    1. Lucie Jones
    Image caption Lucie Jones: I just wanted to make the UK proud at the 2017 Eurovision Song contest
    Lucie Jones was last year's UK entry, coming a respectable 15th out of the 26 countries which competed in the final.

    She first entered our lives in 2009, after making it to live shows on The X Factor where she came eighth.

    She sang Never Give Up On You and says she was "amazed" at how supportive the Eurovision fans are.

    How do you look back on your Eurovision time?
    I had a great time, it was very full-on. I did it while I was performing in Rent. I was doing eight shows a week, and then trying to fit in rehearsals and preparation for Eurovision as well. It was a crazy time, but I look back now and love that I did it.

    Who took the competition most seriously?
    At the end of the show, I had a big bag of glitter and was throwing it over everyone. Everyone took it really well - except Greece. She didn't take the glitter very well at all, because she thought she was going to win. She thought I was making fun of her and didn't take it in the spirit in which I meant it.

    Anything you'd have done differently?
    My only regret would be to take EVEN more pictures! Such a fun experience. I absolutely loved it.

    Any advice for SuRie?
    Relax and have fun. Trust that the audience will enjoy it if you enjoy it!

    2. Blue
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    Image caption Blue's 11th position is the UK's best most recent result at Eurovision.
    Blue already had a huge chart-topping career including collaborations with the likes of Elton John, Stevie Wonder and Lil' Kim. The boyband used their 2011 Eurovision appearance as a comeback after having been on hiatus for seven years. Blue's song I Can came in 11th place at Eurovision - which hasn't been bettered by the UK since.

    Antony Costa from the band says that despite Blue's back catalogue, it's Eurovision that still garners the greatest interest...

    How do you look back on your Eurovision time?
    I look back with fond and still exciting memories and as a band it was probably the hardest we have ever worked. Everything was unpredictable and yet so exciting at the same time.

    What was the best thing about doing it?
    The fact that you had so many other countries all doing the same thing, with the same goal and wanting to win the same prize. That level of competition is incredible!

    How nerve-wracking was it?
    125 million people watching your every move. Need I say more?

    Favourite memory?
    The moment we got 12 points from Bulgaria. That kind of blew us away, we had never even been to Bulgaria and yet who knew, the Bulgarians were fans of Blue!

    What was the reaction back in the UK?
    The reaction was positive all around, and for us as band it led into two new albums (Roulette and Colours) and another five years of non-stop global touring, as well as TV shows and a whole bunch of other stuff.

    Advice for SuRie?
    I would simply say to SuRie enjoy every moment. Try and take it all in because it goes by so quickly and be proud of the achievement you have reached and just know the country is behind you (and I will definitely be watching).

    3. Sonia
    Image caption Sonia worked with Simon Cowell on the UK's Eurovision entry for 1993
    Liverpool pop sensation Sonia had enjoyed huge fame and success before she performed at Eurovision in 1993. She sang Better the Devil You Know and came second (back in the days when the UK still did OK in this kind of thing) - but says she was "gutted" about missing out on the top spot...

    How do you look back on your Eurovision time?
    I had a marvellous time, I was so chuffed that the BBC chose me and asked me to take part.

    It was something I loved as a kid. I remember watching Making Your Mind Up by Bucks Fizz - I thought it was great. I was only 10 years old at the time, but it had a real lasting impression on me.

    How has the contest changed since you competed?
    Ours wasn't on the spectacular level it is now. It was much more basically staged.

    I appeared on Terry Wogan's Saturday night programme over a number of different weeks to showcase all the different songs which were options for Eurovision. All the music industry people and all these high level BBC executives picked out these eight songs as possibilities. Simon Cowell was among those involved, I was signed to him at the time.

    Did Eurovision attract a different calibre of songwriter / performer back then?
    There has always been a lot of interest in Eurovision from famous songwriters. Pete Waterman wrote one, as did Andrew Lloyd Webber. Songwriters have always been really interested in competing as it's a great stepping stone to getting your song heard by a massive audience.

    But it seems so difficult now, because we never come anywhere in the competition, which is such a shame because a lot of it seems so political.

    Were you happy with your result?
    At the time I was completely devastated because I came so close to winning. If I'd have come 10th, I don't think I'd have minded so much.

    Looking back now though, second is fantastic!

    Advice for SuRie?
    Stay focussed - she's a pro, so she's no stranger to a stage. Go for it and enjoy.

    4. Joe Woolford (of Joe and Jake)
    Image caption Joe (in foreground) was "devastated" at their 2016 Eurovision result
    Joe and Jake competed for the UK in 2016, a year after they had both participated in the fourth series of The Voice. The duo came third from bottom - in 24th place. Don't worry though Joe, it matched the previous year's result, so You're Not Alone...

    How do you look back on your Eurovision time?
    It's crazy that I did it. It's the biggest singing competition in the world and we were lucky enough to perform and represent the UK.

    How many A-list celebrities can say they've performed in front of 250 million people? Getting the chance to do it was just fantastic.

    Were you happy with your result?
    We were really devastated when we came 24th. Gutted is the only word to describe it. So we just got on the wine and tried to enjoy the rest of the Eurovision parties and take our minds off it.

    I'd love to go back and try again. It was such an experience and the audience was immense.

    What impact did the voting changes have in your year?
    The televoting was a bit of a shock, to be honest (in 2016 Eurovision changed the voting format so the jury vote and televote were awarded separately).

    In the jury vote we didn't do too badly - we got 12 points from Malta fairly early on, and some of the other countries awarded us points too. So it was looking OK, but then the televotes got added to the scores and we were just annihilated.

    I think changing the voting system worked - it just didn't work in my favour. It's a good thing though - it's all about entertainment at the end of the day.

    Which country took the competition most seriously?
    Sweden got very hyped up, and a lot of the other artists took it VERY seriously. Russia spent millions on everything and trying to make their performance stand out.

    Advice for SuRie?
    It's the perfect Eurovision song, but I can't see it winning. My advice to SuRie would be to remember to remember. It's so easy to go up on there and just go for it, and then forget it all.

    5. Andy Abraham
    Image caption Andy thinks the voting is too political
    Andy first came to our attention after coming runner up to Shayne Ward in the second ever series of The X Factor. He travelled to Belgrade in 2008 to compete in the Eurovision song contest, but came last place. Perhaps this explains why he has "mixed feelings" about his time in the competition.

    How do you look back on your Eurovision time?
    I have mixed feelings, I love the competition and how historic it is but it needs a overhaul in regards to the voting system. I wish the competition was fair for every country with no bloc voting.

    Favourite memory?
    I have three, performing my song Even If to millions, working with the legend Terry Wogan, and getting the thumbs up from Jean Paul Gaultier.

    Who took the competition most seriously?
    I can't remember specific countries but I do remember (I think Azerbaijan) when we had all the entertainers at an event, they had about 30 paparazzi chasing them, then I heard the paps were paid as a PR stunt.

    Advice for SuRie?
    My advice to SuRie is enjoy the experience, and don't have too much expectation on where you end up.

    6. Nicki French
    Image caption Nicki French says she would do Eurovision again "in a heartbeat"
    After her UK chart success in 1995, Nicki French performed at Eurovision in 2000. She says it took a long time to get over what was, at that point, the UK's worst ever placing.

    What was the best thing about doing Eurovision?
    The show itself. And having make-up people, cameras and stylists all around you. I'd love to be able to re-do it and relive it - it was just the best experience. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

    All the vocals have to be live on the night. People laugh at it, but there's no other show where everything has to be absolutely live. Considering it's live TV, it's amazing more stuff doesn't go wrong.

    How nerve-wracking was it?
    The year we did it, it was the first time the internet was streaming it, so we were told there was up to a billion people watching! I was so nervous, pacing around backstage, but when I walked on stage it felt like a dream.

    Favourite memory?
    Backstage, there were just curtains to partition each dressing room area. I'd gone to our UK area, and I could hear someone next door singing our song, playing it on guitar.

    It was the German entry, Stefan Raab, just sat singing my song - I was really touched.

    What did you make of your result?
    I came 16th out of 24 which was the worst we'd done ever at that point. It meant so much to me and took me some time to get over it.

    Everyone was really kind, telling us we shouldn't have been so low. I felt the performance had gone well - we watched it when we got back and still didn't know what had gone wrong.

    It followed on from the British beef crisis - so I don't know if it had something to do with that, but it was painful - you really feel like you let the country down.

    Who took the competition most seriously?
    The one who really takes it very seriously and goes hell for leather is Sweden. The Eurovision final is the most watched programme in Sweden, I believe. Russia definitely like to go for it too.

    Advice for SuRie?
    When you get out there, you can't prepare for it. It's unlike anything you've ever done before. I'd been on stage in front of 50,000 people before and I still wasn't prepared.

    Just savour the moment, because it is gone in a flash. It's the most enjoyable thing to do. I'm sure she'll be fine though.



     
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    Best of 2018:

    1. Mercy (France)
    2. Nobody But You (Austria)
    3. We Got Love (Australia)
    4. Forever (Belarus)
    5. Bones (Bulgaria)
    6. Non Mi Avete Fatto Niente (Italy)
    7. Storm (UK)
    8. Lie To Me (Czech Republic)
    9. My Lucky Day (Moldavia)
    10. Crazy (Croatia)

    I'm not sure if all of these songs are going to be in the finale so I'll vote for Norway as an alternative #9 and Latvia as an alternative #10.
     
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    I have noticed a pattern. Each time I rooted for someone else to win the Swedish song contest than who actually won, then I am much less interested in Eurovision Song Contest.

    It's not interesting enough to send a gorgeous guy singing a generic pop song, Swedes!!!

    Just look how predictable we have been in the past years:

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    Sorry, but Sweden is my favourite country in the Eurovision song contest. Their song is always a tune you love listening to in the summer, plus when they host they put on a great, funny show. And you'll never hear me complain about eye candy like Måns Zelmerlöw.
     
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    I have never seen this Eurovision song myself, because I have not followed it for a number of years when the Netherlands has not participated in the Eurovision Song Contest final for a number of years.

    But it's a nice song. :)

    I also thought the Netherlands was the best that year, but Conchita really made a statement in 2014.

    Waylon's song sounds indeed familar but i didn't really put the link to "Paradise City", i just don't know what song maybe just because i like the guitar sound in his song. o_O

    But i'm glad the Netherlands made the finale. :spinning:



    I hope to make my top 10 list for Saturday, I already have a few favorite songs that I really like. ;)
     
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    Okay I've heard the songs now. So regardless of if they made it to the final or not this would be my ten favorites from this year's Eurovision:

    1. You Let Me Walk Alone (Germany)
    2. Goodbye (Romania)
    3. We Got Love (Australia)
    4. Nobody but you (Austria)
    5. Outlaw in 'em (Netherlands)
    6. Light Me Up (Poland)
    7. Stones (Switzerland)
    8. Dance You Off (Sweden)
    9. My Lucky Day (Moldova)
    10. That's How You Write a Song (Norway)
     
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