Donald Trump Erodes Social Security And Medicare Solvency While Blaming Democrats

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    Trump says Democrats want to destroy Social Security and Medicare (they don't) and he's making them stronger (he isn't). They've weakened on his watch.

    Some of President Donald Trump’s lies fall into what I call the “yeah, right” category. Like saying he doesn’t have time to watch TV, or how, as a candidate, he said he'd be too busy working to play golf. Yeah, right. Others are cringeworthy and delusional, like the time he described himself as “like, really smart” and “a very stable genius.”

    But then there are presidential lies that affect you personally, right in the wallet. During a brief session with reporters in the Oval Office this month, Trump was swamped by questions about Bob Woodward’s book “Fear” – and he impulsively grabbed onto the oddest of lifejackets: Social Security and Medicare. Here’s what he said:

    “We’re saving Social Security. The Democrats will destroy Social Security. We’re saving Medicare. The Democrats want to destroy Medicare. If you look at what they’re doing, they’re going to destroy Medicare. And we will save it. We will keep it going. We’re making it stronger. We’re making Social Security stronger.”

    Trump has weakened Social Security, Medicare
    It’s the kind of sound bite that Trump’s supporters, cult-like, automatically believe.The truth is that Trump has been president for just 20 months, but Social Security and Medicare have both gotten worse on his watch. And his own actions — and those of his fellow Republicans in the House and Senate — are to blame. Don’t take my word for it. Even his own advisers say so.

    First some background, starting with Social Security. Last year, this Goliath of a program served 61 million Americans, with the vast majority — 51 million — covered by the Old Age and Survivors Trust Fund, and another 10 million by the Disability Trust Fund. Total cost to taxpayers in 2017: a whopping $952 billion.

    Trump says he has bolstered Social Security? The old age and survivors fund will begin paying out more than it takes in by fiscal year 2022, which starts three years from now. From there, it’s a fast, slippery slope to 2034, when the fund’s $2.8 trillion reserves are gone. What happens then? Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who is also the government’s chief Social Security Trustee, acknowledges that monthly checks to tens of millions of Americans will have to be slashed 21 percent in 2034 unless something is done. When Trump took office, the insolvency date was 2035.

    To be fair, the much smaller part of Social Security — the Disability Trust Fund — is in better shape. Thanks to a drop in the number of people claiming benefits, its insolvency date has been extended four years. But the big enchilada — the old age fund — is weaker, not stronger.

    Of course, Social Security has always been something of a pyramid scheme, relying on younger workers paying into the system to support retirees via a payroll tax. So how has Trump made it worse? The report from Mnuchin and the other trustees blames a series of steps that have reduced money coming in: the tax cut law, lower than expected wage increases, and Trump’s killing of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program that has allowed hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants to live and work here legally. All of these, in the aggregate, have made a wobbly program even less stable.

    Trump blames Democrats for his own damage
    As for Medicare — a gigantic health insurance program that gobbled up $591 billion in federal spending last year — the financial day of reckoning is approaching even faster. When Trump took over, Medicare’s core program (“Part A”) wasn't due to run out of money until 2029. But the Medicare Trustees (including Mnuchin) now say Part A will run out of money by 2026.

    Thus in Trump’s 20 months on the job, it has lost 36 months of solvency. The chief actuary at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Paul Spitalnic, cites both tax cuts and lower than expected wage growth.

    What’s amazing here is that Republicans control the House, Senate and White House; they’ve inflicted damage on these programs — programs you’ll one day rely on if you don’t already — and yet Trump is sounding the alarm about Democrats.

    There hasn’t been a serious effort to bolster Social Security and Medicare since the failed “grand bargain” between President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans in 2011.

    If Trump wants to step up, he can work with lawmakers to take one or more of the following steps: raise the full retirement age (now 67), trim benefits, require higher income people to pay more, and bring in more money from workers by raising the cap on income subject to the payroll tax.

    These options mean pain for voters, and that’s why Trump is the the latest in a long line of politicians who can’t or won’t act. The only difference: He lies and says everything's great. The joke will soon be on us.

    Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...curity-medicare-not-saving-column/1340839002/
     
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    Bernie Sanders: Trump Lies About 'Medicare For All' And He's Made Health Care Worse

    Medicare for All is popular because it would save people money and assure them the health care they need. Trump's only defense is to lie about my bill.

    The American people have a very clear choice in the upcoming elections. On one side is Donald Trump and the Republican leadership in Congress, who made throwing 32 million Americans off of health insurance their number one priority in Washington. On the other side is my "Medicare for All" plan supported by 16 senators and 122 House members. It would guarantee everyone could get the health care they need without going into debt at far lower cost than the current dysfunctional system.

    And Americans are very clear about which side they are on. In a poll last summer, 70 percent said they support expanding and improving Medicare to cover everyone in our country. They understand that there is something profoundly wrong when our current dysfunctional health care system is designed not to provide quality care to all, but to enable the private health insurance industry and drug companies to make billions in profits.

    Despite spending almost twice as much per capita as any other country, 30 million Americans have no health insurance and many more are underinsured with high deductibles and co-payments. Further, the pharmaceutical industry charges us, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. It is insane that today it costs an average of $28,000 a year to provide health insurance to a family of four. It is equally insane that one out of five Americans cannot afford the prescription drugs their doctors prescribe.

    Donald Trump has only made health care worse
    Medicare is the most popular, successful and cost-effective health insurance program in the country. Today, only people 65 and older are eligible for it. Americans shouldn’t have to wait that long to get the high-quality health care they need and deserve.

    As president, Trump has made our health care system worse. While we were able to defeat his budget which proposed a $1 trillion cut to Medicaid, a $500 billion cut to Medicare and a $72 billion cut to the Social Security disability fund, we were unable to stop other very harmful measures.

    As a result of his efforts to sabotage the Affordable Care Act, 13 million more Americans will become uninsured over the next decade while millions more have seen their premiums rise. Further, his administration is working alongside 20 Republican state attorneys general to end the protection that the Affordable Care Act now guarantees to people with pre-existing conditions, such as cancer, heart disease and diabetes. No one can estimate how many thousands of those people will die if they can no longer purchase affordable insurance.

    We have a different idea: Expand Medicare to all. My bill would provide comprehensive and cost-effective health care for everyone — without out-of-pocket expenses.

    Study after study shows that when we eliminate private insurance premiums, deductibles and co-payments, the average American will pay substantially less for health care than he or she currently pays. For example, a recent study by RAND found that moving to a Medicare for All system in New York would save a family with an income of $185,000 or less about $3,000 per person a year, on average. Even the projections from the conservative Mercatus Center suggest that the average American could save about $6,000 under Medicare for All over a 10-year period.

    Medicare for All not only benefits individuals and families, it would also benefit the business community. Small and medium sized businesses would be free to focus on their core business goals instead of wasting precious energy and resources navigating an incredibly complex system to provide employee health insurance. Equally important, with universal health care, workers would not have to stay at jobs they dislike just because their employer provides decent health insurance.

    Medicare for All is better for seniors
    Given the president’s propensity to lie about almost everything, it is not surprising that Trump is grossly distorting what the Medicare for All legislation does.

    Our proposal would not cut benefits for seniors on Medicare, as the president and his Republican allies claim. In fact, we expand benefits. Millions of seniors today cannot afford dental care, vision care or hearing aids because Medicare does not cover them. Our proposal does. In addition, Medicare for All would eliminate deductibles and copays for seniors and significantly lower the cost of prescription drugs. Medicare for All allows seniors and all Americans to see the doctors they want, not the doctors in their insurance networks.

    Trump claims that Medicare for All is not affordable. That is nonsense. What we cannot afford is to continue spending almost twice as much per capita on health care as any other country on Earth. We can’t afford the $28,000 it currently costs to provide health insurance for the average family of four. We can’t afford to have 30 million Americans with no health insurance and even more who are under-insured with high deductibles and high co-payments. We can’t afford to have millions of Americans get sicker than they should, and in some cases die, because they can’t afford to go to the doctor.

    Here is the bottom line: If every major country on earth can guarantee health care to all and achieve better health outcomes, while spending substantially less per capita than we do, it is absurd for anyone to suggest that the United States of America cannot do the same.

    Bernie Sanders is an independent senator from Vermont. Follow him on Twitter: @SenSanders

    Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...s-medicare-all-health-care-column/1594863002/

     
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    This may come as a shock to you, but it's possible to believe they both suck for many reasons.

    But credit where credit is due, and it's clearly Trump and the Republicans that are destroying Social Security and Medicare.
     
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    That would certainly be an improvement. Medicare for all, living wage, ending the wars, humane immigration policy, no more illegal warrantless surveillance, banks held accountable...

    Of course, that's why both parties will conspire to make sure it never happens. For all of Trump's talk of being anti-establishment, he's shown himself to be their bitch like the rest.
     
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    No, I clearly spelled out what I want in my previous post. If the Dems were smart, they would run a candidate who supports those positions. I'd vote for the Dem candidate then.

    What I don't want is for-profit healthcare and education putting people in debt, stagnant wages, illegal wars, illegal spying, and inhumane immigration policy courtesy of both parties.
     
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    Third Parties: For Those Delusional Enough to Believe That Democrats Are No Less Treacherous Than Republicans. Or If You're Simply Incapable of Growing a Pair.
     
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    "Delusional" is someone who doesn't pay attention to the voting record of politicians, or overlooks their corruption and support for harmful policies because they're partisan hacks.

    Someone who has "grown a pair" is willing to vote their conscience at the risk of alienating themselves from the partisan hacks of the world.

    You said Dems were right to back Joe Manchin over Paula Jean Swearengin, even though Manchin regretted voting for Hillary, says he might vote for Trump in 2020, and voted for Brett Kavanaugh. He also votes in favor of Trump's policies 61% of the time. You support SOB's like Manchin over progressives, even though they vote against you. Now that's hysterical!
     
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    "Getting real" by voting for Democrats who are anti-immigrant, anti-poor, pro-rich, and pro-war just like Republicans. Yeah, that will make the world a better place! :hl:
     
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    Another Victory in 2020 for Trump: Courtesy of Third Party Voters Who Choose to Keep Their Gullible @$$es in the Clouds Rather Than Getting Real and Joining the Rest of Us Here on Planet Earth.
     
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    Gullible is believing the Democrats always have the backs of the poor and middle class, even when their voting record and donors say otherwise.
     
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    bor·ing
    [ˈbôriNG]
    ADJECTIVE
    1. not interesting; tedious.
      synonyms: tedious · dull · monotonous · repetitious · repetitive · unrelieved · lacking variety · lacking variation · lacking excitement · lacking interest · unvaried · unimaginative · uneventful · characterless · featureless · colorless · lifeless · soulless · passionless · spiritless · unspirited · insipid · uninteresting · unexciting · uninspiring · unstimulating · unoriginal · derivative · jejune · nondescript · sterile · flat · bland · (plain) vanilla · arid · dry · dry as dust · stale · wishy-washy · gray · anemic · tired · banal · lame · plodding · ponderous · pedestrian · lackluster · stodgy · dreary · mechanical · stiff · leaden · wooden · mind-numbing · soul-destroying · wearisome · tiring · tiresome · irksome · trying · frustrating · humdrum · prosaic · mundane · commonplace · workaday · quotidian · unremarkable · routine · run-of-the-mill · normal · usual · ordinary · conventional · suburban · garden variety · deadly · bog-standard · nothing to write home about · a dime a dozen · no great shakes · not up to much · samey · common or garden · dullsville · ornery
     
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    So boring that you keep coming back for more. Admit it; you can't quit me!
     
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    at·ten·tion whore
    [attention whore]
    NOUN derogatory US
    1. a person who behaves in a provocative, outrageous, or reprehensible manner in order to attract attention.
      "her mother is a greedy attention whore who wanted her daughter to be famous" · "he's nothing more than an attention whore looking for blind validation"
     
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    So funny when you're the one who engaged me first. I've simply been responding back.

    Of course, I wouldn't expect anything less from the king of hypocrisy and projection.
     
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    That's been null and void for a long time. I'm talking about the posts you originally made last night.

    You call me an attention whore, but you're certainly not shy when it comes to making provocative posts.
     
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