DNC sues WikiLeaks for working with Russia and the Trump campaign to help him win election

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    WikiLeaks hit with DNC lawsuit — over Twitter

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    Lawyers representing the Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Friday served transparency advocates WikiLeaks with a lawsuit via Twitter, accusing the site of working with the Trump campaign and Russia to swing the 2016 election in President Trump's favor.

    The move came Friday after CBS News reported that multiple attempts by DNC lawyers to serve legal documents to WikiLeaks representatives by email were met with no response.

    The DNC was one of multiple Democratic organizations hacked during the 2016 election, with the resulting emails and documents posted on WikiLeaks. The U.S. intelligence community believes Russia was behind the breach, with the intention of helping to elect Trump.

    WikiLeaks tweeted in April suggesting that the organization had received the DNC's lawsuit, calling it frivolous, and it has reportedly not responded to any direct attempts at communication from DNC attorneys.

    "WikiLeaks seems to tweet daily," the DNC noted in a court filing, according to CBS.

    The subpoena served Friday deals with a suit filed earlier this year in Manhattan.

    Last month, special counsel Robert Mueller indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers in the DNC hack amid his ongoing probe into Moscow's 2016 election meddling.

    Mueller’s probe has also focused on former Trump adviser Roger Stone, who claimed to have been in contact with WikiLeaks and its founder, Julian Assange, through an intermediary during the election. Later reports indicated that Stone himself had directly messaged the organization.

    Assange has denied allegations that he collaborated with Russia or Russian hackers during the election, maintaining WikiLeaks's public stance as a neutral repository that will receive information from any source.

    WikiLeaks hit with DNC lawsuit — over Twitter - The Hill https://apple.news/AGabPkY7GRHaKoKXz4sN7rg
     
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    Of course the DNC is going after "transparency advocates." God forbid anybody see what a bunch of corrupt hypocrites they are. That just might turn people off!
     
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    Your Guide to the Masturbatory Third Party or Protest Voter Delusions of 2016
    A Smorgasbord of Logical Fallacies and Magical Thinking at the Worst Possible Election to be F**king Around

    1. “Clinton’s got this on lockdown, ergo I can do what I want”

    2. “Hillary Clinton is a staunch defender of the status quo”

    3. “How dare you criticize my vote”

    4. “The system is broken!”

    5. “The Two-Party System causes gridlock and is the root of all political evil”

    6. “Clinton and Trump are two sides of the same coin”

    7. “Both parties are controlled by corporations, therefore both are evil”

    8. “An unprincipled vote is the only wasted vote”

    9. “Clinton is X, Clinton is Y, Clinton is Z”


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    I love how you refer to valid points as logical fallacies, but can you at least try to stay on topic? This thread is about the DNC suing Wikileaks, not your hatred of third party voters.
     
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    Judge upholds arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange

    LONDON — WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on Tuesday lost his second bid in a week to overturn an arrest warrant that has prompted him to take refuge in London’s Ecuadorian Embassy for nearly six years.

    Senior District Judge Emma Arbuthnot ruled the warrant must stand, leaving Assange’s legal position unchanged, and condemned his decision not to appear in court.

    “The impression I have ... is that [Assange] is a man who wants to impose his terms on the course of justice, whether the course of justice is in this jurisdiction or in Sweden," she wrote in her ruling. "He appears to consider himself above the normal rules of law and wants justice only if it goes in his favor."

    "Defendants on bail up and down the country, and requested persons facing extradition, come to the court to face the consequences of their choices," Arbuthnot added. Assange "should have the courage to do so too."

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    British authorities issued the warrant in 2012 after Assange, 46, skipped bail to avoid being extradited to Sweden where he faced allegations from two women of rape and sexual assault dating to 2010.

    Swedish authorities dropped their investigation last year after concluding there was no reasonable hope of bringing Assange to Stockholm to answer questions, but his British warrant remained outstanding. Marianne Ny, the chief prosecutor in Sweden, stressed that she was not declaring Assange innocent, only that he no longer faces any charges in the country. Assange denies the accusations.

    Lawyers for Assange argued last week that the British warrant ought to be dropped given that the Swedish investigation into their client had been terminated, but their motion was denied. They then made a second attempt saying that there was insufficient public interest in upholding the warrant.

    His lawyers argued that the years Assange have spent confined to the embassy had been an “adequate, if not severe punishment.” A United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention concluded in February 2016 that Assange was being arbitrarily detained. British authorities rejected the working group's finding, saying he was “in fact, voluntarily avoiding lawful arrest.”

    Assange's lawyers also said he had “reasonable grounds” for taking refuge in the embassy because of his fear that he would be deported to the U.S. to face justice for publishing secret documents on WikiLeaks.

    “This case is and always has been about the risk of extradition to the United States,” Jennifer Robinson, a member of Assange’s legal team, said last week. She also called on the U.K. to “provide an assurance against extradition.”

    It is not known whether Assange faces a U.S. indictment because of secrecy rules governing grand jury decisions.

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions told reporters last April that arresting Assange was “a priority.”

    Assange rose to prominence after the whistleblower WikiLeaks published a trove of classified U.S. military documents on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The leaks were the largest of their kind in U.S. military history.

    After that, WikiLeaks released more than 250,000 secret diplomatic cables, as well as emails hacked from the Democratic Party during the 2016 presidential election.

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    Here's an excerpt from an article I posted in April that talked about the consequences this suit may have on press freedoms:

    That a grave threat to press freedoms would be posed by any attempts to render illegal WikiLeaks’ publication of stolen material was also widely recognized by many major media outlets, which strongly editorialized against it. The Washington Post Editorial Page, for instance, published an 2010 editorial headlined “Don’t Charge WikiLeaks”:

    "Such prosecutions are a bad idea. The government has no business indicting someone who is not a spy and who is not legally bound to keep its secrets. Doing so would criminalize the exchange of information and put at risk responsible media organizations that vet and verify material and take seriously the protection of sources and methods when lives or national security are endangered."

    No media outlet can function, indeed journalism cannot function, if it becomes illegal to publish secret materials taken by a source without authorization or even illegally. The Obama DOJ – which was not exactly a bastion of press freedom protection, and which despised Assange as much as anyone – wisely recognized this fact, when it decided that it could not prosecute WikiLeaks for publishing stolen materials without severely endangering press freedoms.

    The DNC, unfortunately, is not nearly as wise, nor nearly as worried about destroying press freedom in the U.S. The theory it embraced today to sue WikiLeaks for publishing documents is a far more serious menace than any of Donald Trump’s insulting tweets about Chuck Todd. It deserves condemnation and scorn by anyone who actually cares about press freedom.

    Source: https://theintercept.com/2018/04/20...eaks-poses-a-serious-threat-to-press-freedom/
     
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    Even some Dem politicians and media personalities are against the suit:

    Democratic lawmakers and members of the media have criticized the Democratic National Committee's civil lawsuit against the Donald Trump campaign, the Russian government, and Wikileaks.

    The DNC filed the lawsuit Friday in federal court, accusing the Trump campaign of conspiring with Russian agents and WikiLeaks. The New York Times reported the suit came as a surprise to even Democratic Party leaders.

    Democratic Rep. Jackie Speier (Calif.) said the lawsuit is "ill-conceived."

    "I think this lawsuit is ill-conceived," Speier said. "And I'm not very supportive of it."

    Spier went on to say the DNC has only been able to speculate and not prove anything.

    "I don't think that the DNC has been able to do anything more than speculate based on the statements and their complaint," Spier said.

    Sen. Claire McCaskill's (D., Mo.) office called the lawsuit a "silly distraction."

    CNN political reporter Gloria Borger called the DNC's lawsuit a "100 percent stunt" and said it is a way for the DNC to fundraise.

    "Honestly, it's just a way to raise money. That's what it is, that's what they're trying to do," Borger said.

    Source: https://freebeacon.com/politics/democrats-media-bash-dnc-lawsuit-election-hacking/
     
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    I do hope Ecuador goes ahead and kicks Julian Assange's butt out and then he gets deported to the US and spends the rest of his miserable life of a Russian puppet in jail.
     
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    And that will be the day freedom of the press officially dies. Nobody will dare publish information that may have been illegally obtained for fear that they too will be prosecuted for it.

    I guess we prefer our puppets to be the US variety.
     
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    Wikileaks = GRU. Freedom of press? My ass.
     
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    Wikileaks is Russian intelligence because they provided transparency into the DNC's activities and wars waged by America?

    The simple truth is that people on both the right and the left are trying to suppress the press from publishing information that portrays them in a negative light.

    The people calling for Assange's head would no doubt be up in arms if the GOP tried to prosecute a journalist for publishing damaging information about Trump.
     
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    ABC News: Wikileaks’ Assange backs Trump in Russia’s hacking role

     
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    A group of former intelligence agents known as VIPS examined the hacked emails and came to the conclusion that the emails were not hacked outside of the US. Based on the data transfer rate, they concluded that the hack was actually an internal leak by someone who worked at the DNC. One doesn't have to take their word for it, although it is interesting when you look at the facts. First off, the DNC relied on a private cyber security firm to inspect their servers rather than the FBI. Several FBI officials were admittedly frustrated by this. Secondly, VIPS is the same group of intelligence officials who discovered the faulty intelligence regarding WMDs in Iraq. In light of those facts, I know who I choose to believe.

    Also, Adam Schiff calling someone a "useful idiot" for exposing his party's unethical primary rigging and "private and public positions" is absolutely hilarious.
     

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