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Did one of Dynasty's wittiest lines come from...

Discussion in 'Dynasty' started by Jimmy Todd, May 30, 2020.

  1. Jimmy Todd

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    ...Jeff.
    Fallon comes home in the wee hours of the morning after a tryst with Nick Toscanni. Jeff informs her that Krystle lost her baby that night. Fallon responds with callous insouciance.
    Jeff: "What did you lose last night, Fallon? Your amateur standing?"
    Fallon is left speechless.
     
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    I take umbrage. Jeff's best line was when Fallon told him the spaceship had a smell of cinnamon (in early season 8). He feigned innocence and asked: "oh, were they baking?"
     
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    I have to admit I've never quite understood it.
     
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    I never quite did either. I assume it's meant to mean that she's now a professional whore after moving up the ranks of whoredom. But it's a bit too much and not really the kind of thing a person would actually say in an argument. You'd just say they were a whore, though I don't know if people in soap operas are allowed to be called that. Or maybe they have an allowance of whore's, bastards, and other such words and can only say them in certain context or a certain amount of times a season.
     
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    Or is she now a professional bitch?
     
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    I always thought he meant
    that she's getting paid to be a "slut," no longer always giving it away for free.
     
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    Oh yes, that makes sense. For some reason, I thought it might be an American sporting reference!
     
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    I think you're right.

    It was the same with "fa**ot", it was used with utter seriousness in Dynasty two-three times.
     
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    I guess in a way it is, when we usually apply it to athletes as in "pro" and "amateur."
    Season 2 had a lot of witty little lines, mostly from Alexis. I saw an interview in which Joan Collins credited herself for that, saying she wanted to bring a little humor into Dynasty. (Quite a difference from Lucille Ball, who whenever praised for "I Love Lucy," never failed to pay tribute to the writers.)
     
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    Dynasty was the first show in which I heard the word "bitch" I think the show's success opened the floodgates for such words.
    "All in the Family" received a bit of backlash for the use of "g**amn," as well as the "n" word. "The Jeffersons" and "Sanford and Son" also used that racial slur, which is often censored in reruns. Those were Norman Lear shows, and he really pushed envelope.
    However, Dynasty will always be the pioneer when it comes to "bitch," bless its tawdry heart.
     
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    That was a good one, although I'm sure Fallon didn't like it.
     
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    I think JR called Kristin a bitch when she visited him in hospital after he'd been shot, which was just a couple of months before Dynasty started.
     
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    Maude called Walter a "son of a bitch" in 1974.
     
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    M.A.S.H. also used the word once I think. But it seems that it's after Dynasty used it that it became a popular insult on TV.
     
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    Forgetting that Cecil bought Fallon for him?
     
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    That's right. When did he find out about that? Season 1 or 2?
     
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    Another Norman Lear creation. He seemed to get away with things other shows couldn't(or wouldn't).
     
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    You're right. I forgot about one of my favorite femme fatale scenes!

    I could be wrong, but it seemed after Dynasty and Alexis, "bitch" in particular entered the media vernacular. Press releases, advertising and reviews started using that word more.
     
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    Heath called himself a "bastard" on BIG VALLEY in 1965, still bleeped in some markets even today.
     
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    I think it was more to do with the press and media cashing in on Joan's The Bitch movie too. It was clever to call her a bitch because she was The Bitch before she was Dynasty's bitch.
     
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