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Anders' demise: Dynasty's jump the shark moment?

Discussion in 'Dynasty' started by Richard Channing, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. Richard Channing

    Richard Channing Soap Chat Star EXP: 6 Years

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    That is the Dynasty set yes, but young Alexis is there through the magic of Photoshop. :)
     
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  3. Willie Oleson

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    Imagine that as a flashback scene...it looks so absurd-ish real!
     
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    I'm convinced we can soon do the prequel ourselves!
     
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  5. Ked

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    ...I'm really sorry, but I just suddenly imagined all of us arguing over who gets to play what part. :lmao: Realistically, we'd be better off just hiring some cheap actors. Not unless some really good ones were willing to take a pay-cut. :lol:
     
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    What do you mean? It's going to be the cast of Richard's Dynasty trailers.

    As for "Who Shot J.C.?"
    Register or to view Spoiler content!
     
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    Errrrrrrrrmmm… I didn't mean we'd all act it out ourselves!
     
  8. Ked

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    I knew that, it was just a funny image that came into my mind. :lol: That's why I said "realistically" we should hire actors. Though I do like the notion of continuing on with Richard's trailers. :)
     
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    Why would we hire actors?? The point is that @Richard Channing would do the visuals using footage of the original actors, digitally altering them to be, do and say what we want. And @Willie Oleson can come up with names like "Agatha" and stuff. Others would participate in the creative process, and I would stand around with my arms crossed barking orders maniacally while offering no actual productive ideas, later absconding with all the credit and most of the budget and resulting profits.

    Y'know, like it should be.
     
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  10. Ked

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    Soooo your ambition is to become the next Aaron Spelling? :D
     
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    I don't think Joseph's death was a "shark jump" though it was a loss of one of the show's best actors and most intriguing characters. The "impotent voyeur" (who kept a scrapbook of newspaper and magazine clippings about Alexis) coming unglued and trying to kill her makes absolute sense to me; homicide by arson connects the plot to "Rebecca" which (either conscious or unconscious) was an obvious inspiration for the character of Joseph. What I have always had a problem with was the setting; arranging to meet at Steven's cabin seems so contrived - all the places Alexis has to choose from and she selects a cabin?! I understand a small, remote building makes sense logistically but I think this is the wrong building.

    Alexis should have asked Krystle to meet her at her studio. Yes, I know they struck that set when they moved to a different sound-stage but they could have recreated it. How difficult would it have been to assemble some white faux-brick walls, one stone fireplace and the large window at the back (which would be boarded over). Use an existing establishing shot. You don't need to find the actual furniture as everything would be draped in dust-covers.
     
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  12. Willie Oleson

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    That was to convince Krystle that Steven would be there
    What's more ridiculous is that she offered the wife of Blake Carrington a lousy million dollars, Krystle's car, jewelry, wardrobe and fur are probably worth twice that amount.
     
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    As some of you know, I want Joseph to pop up quite alive midway thru Season 10, playing the DYNASTY theme bridge from the organ loft which gleans Blake's attention. He explains that he and Alexis faked his death and he was whisked off to one of those chic flats she maintains in Paris --- I'll spare you the details, but it has to do with Joseph's drunken siring of Kirby via Alexis when Blake was out of town following the 1961 inauguration (Alexis returned home to London, had the child, returned to the States and presented the baby to Alycia Aynders in the madhouse, further sending the poor woman over the edge once and for all, Blake never the wiser to any of this).

    Joseph's reappearance in the attic of the mansion is to warn Blake of this-and-that he's heard in Europe about the Consortium and their pursuit of the Collection. And the fact that Blake is in danger.

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    True, but Krystle's prenup was for only $100,000.
     
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  14. Richard Channing

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    So unglued that he was fine with Krystle also being burnt to a krysp? A woman who he had grown to respect and admire?? I mean her car would have been parked outside so he knew she was in there. And this sudden insanity came out of nowhere.
     
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    I LOVE that you spelled crisp as "krysp"!
     
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    Is it feasible that Joseph, who no longer seemed to hate Krystle, simply didn't realize she'd gone inside the cabin?
     
  17. Richard Channing

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    I don't see how that's possible. He would have to have been watching the cabin, and the door was locked not long after Krystle went inside. And why would her car be parked there unless she was inside the cabin?
     
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    - I was happy when he died. I never really liked him. He had great potential (everything he knew about Alexis) but they never played it out but he played made place for the wrong people. Only Dex was a good new character that came in when S4 started.
     
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    Writers in most shows notoriously write the cliffhanger with no idea of how they'd resolve it. The Star Trek: The Next Generation writers had joked that it is something "to make their summer more enjoyable" as they would work toward a solution. Come to think of it, Dynasty has not been good with cliff hangers delivering after the first two seasons. In season 1, the entrance of Alexis changed the universe. In season 2, Colby's heart attack, though delayed, also resulted in a sea change for the characters. But after that, aside from the much-discussed Moldavia, they were mostly duds in their follow up. I think Mark' death was good because it resulted in the only murder trial of the show (how can that be?), which is funny for me because I consider season 4 the worst overall in terms of coherence and overall sense.
     
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    Well, there was "Ted Dinard" murder trial as well in seasons 1 and 2. It lasted even for four episodes. Totally new Dynasty was born during this trial. Of course, we knew all the time who did it. There was no mystery like in Mark Jennings case, but it was much more realistic, brutal and cathartic.
     
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