Is Rebecca doomed to motherhood?

[Greg Sumner]

I predict Rebecca following in Kristen's footsteps. X-|

[Daniel Avery]

I never watched Knots Landing. By the time they created that soap - the primetime soap genre was beginning it's steady decline.

I don't expect you to know this, but KL was created before Dallas. Dallas premiered before KL, which was retooled to be a spin-off of Dallas by making one of the original couples to be G&V. KL premiered in 1979, before the nighttime soap genre had even taken off.

I like having a mix of good/bad characters, as long as the writers don't get lazy and write the good characters as stupid/gullible all the time, and the evil characters always smarter/craftier.

[Stimpy]

it's always nice when the good guys are smarter than the evil ones as well. so we have say J.R. get what wants on something than later down the line someone beats him. but it was pretty smart to have in the original show also have this character win & than also have J.R. Win. but honestly i hope this new version or whatever ya want to call it doesn't go down the path of the original in starting to repeat stuff.

meaning having someone like say Sue Ellen be a drunk than have her fall off the wagon how many times? i think we've all lost count.
yes drama makes good tv. but having the same crap happen to this or that character isn't good tv it just gets tiring. case in point the fight between Cliff and J.R. it's fun to watch yes. but even my parents admit that they got tired of seeing that feud after awhile.

they enjoyed i think like we all do. but it just got old. as for this new show. i agree that Christopher or rather how they've written it does seem to be like that. this is my thoughts the feud who will Elena be with ok i can see that, sometimes that works & sometimes it doesn't as on any show.

but what's bad writing isn't the character of Rebecca she doesn't really bother me to be honest. but what does is like i said putting in the 1st episode Christopher getting Married. because if they are writing it to have him be like Bobby where Bobby didn't cheat on Pam. yet J.R. did Cheat on Sue Ellen or whoever he was with at this or that time.

it just seems like want him to Cheat on Rebecca. i get him being upset & going to Elena. & doing stupid things. that's believable.
but don't write him like another J.R. minus the evil bastard part.

but just a man whore. i guess you could call it. they do the love triangle all the time on shows. case in Point "Vampire Diaries" '
LOST" etc.. the list goes on. yet on either of those shows they didn't marry off them to cause drama. yes shows like day time soaps are a bit different. but if they wrote Bobby as a good guy who doesn't cheat. & pretty much raised his son the same way.

& well John Ross is like his father. they i get writing him that way. than they should write Christopher the same way. Bobby is weak to a degree & he can be a weak character at times. true, but if he's pushed the right way as J.R. always pushed him he get be a pretty strong character. & yes they even had Bobby beat J.R. a few times which i also like. so it makes sense for them to write Christopher the same way too.

& oh there already has been a Psycho bitch on the show already she was killed last week. i don't want them to turn Rebecca into one. though Christopher should just come right out & say even if it's to Bobby i don't know what i want. if they want to continue having the love triangle which i'm sure they will do.

than have christopher & Rebecca get divorced or something? or just get rid of the plot on if he will hook up with Elena altogether.
anyone agree or disagree?

[d0this1951]

[QUOTE=quiche;3414159]Carrying twins can be a difficult pregnancy. Raising twins is time-consuming. Every thing must be done twice.

Can they give a mother of twins a juicy storyline involving adulterous affairs? Is Rebecca destined to be just a nice girl and a good mother, not to mention the good wifey?[/QUOTE

rebecca is gwetting what she desevers. I hope Chris leaves her alone

[quiche]

I don't expect you to know this, but KL was created before Dallas. Dallas premiered before KL, which was retooled to be a spin-off of Dallas by making one of the original couples to be G&V. KL premiered in 1979, before the nighttime soap genre had even taken off.

I like having a mix of good/bad characters, as long as the writers don't get lazy and write the good characters as stupid/gullible all the time, and the evil characters always smarter/craftier.

Thanks for filling me in. KL wasn't my cup of tea, so I didn't watch it.

[quiche]

it's always nice when the good guys are smarter than the evil ones as well. so we have say J.R. get what wants on something than later down the line someone beats him. but it was pretty smart to have in the original show also have this character win & than also have J.R. Win. but honestly i hope this new version or whatever ya want to call it doesn't go down the path of the original in starting to repeat stuff.

meaning having someone like say Sue Ellen be a drunk than have her fall off the wagon how many times? i think we've all lost count.
yes drama makes good tv. but having the same crap happen to this or that character isn't good tv it just gets tiring. case in point the fight between Cliff and J.R. it's fun to watch yes. but even my parents admit that they got tired of seeing that feud after awhile.

they enjoyed i think like we all do. but it just got old. as for this new show. i agree that Christopher or rather how they've written it does seem to be like that. this is my thoughts the feud who will Elena be with ok i can see that, sometimes that works & sometimes it doesn't as on any show.

but what's bad writing isn't the character of Rebecca she doesn't really bother me to be honest. but what does is like i said putting in the 1st episode Christopher getting Married. because if they are writing it to have him be like Bobby where Bobby didn't cheat on Pam. yet J.R. did Cheat on Sue Ellen or whoever he was with at this or that time.

it just seems like want him to Cheat on Rebecca. i get him being upset & going to Elena. & doing stupid things. that's believable.
but don't write him like another J.R. minus the evil bastard part.

but just a man whore. i guess you could call it. they do the love triangle all the time on shows. case in Point "Vampire Diaries" '
LOST" etc.. the list goes on. yet on either of those shows they didn't marry off them to cause drama. yes shows like day time soaps are a bit different. but if they wrote Bobby as a good guy who doesn't cheat. & pretty much raised his son the same way.

& well John Ross is like his father. they i get writing him that way. than they should write Christopher the same way. Bobby is weak to a degree & he can be a weak character at times. true, but if he's pushed the right way as J.R. always pushed him he get be a pretty strong character. & yes they even had Bobby beat J.R. a few times which i also like. so it makes sense for them to write Christopher the same way too.

& oh there already has been a Psycho bitch on the show already she was killed last week. i don't want them to turn Rebecca into one. though Christopher should just come right out & say even if it's to Bobby i don't know what i want. if they want to continue having the love triangle which i'm sure they will do.

than have christopher & Rebecca get divorced or something? or just get rid of the plot on if he will hook up with Elena altogether.
anyone agree or disagree?

Both young women cannot be balanced and happy. On the original Dallas, the balanced and happy one was Pam (until they derailed her original personality), while Sue Ellen was the suffering wife.

In this new Dallas, it looks like Elena has all the men's love and the respect of the family, and she is emotionally pretty well balanced. Therefore, Rebecca gets to be the one who suffers. And like Sue Ellen she suffers over her husband. She doesn't have to become a drunk like Sue Ellen. She doesn't have to have love affairs (unless it is with John Ross). But both young women can't be happy.

[SteveW]

it's always nice when the good guys are smarter than the evil ones as well. so we have say J.R. get what wants on something than later down the line someone beats him. but it was pretty smart to have in the original show also have this character win & than also have J.R. Win. but honestly i hope this new version or whatever ya want to call it doesn't go down the path of the original in starting to repeat stuff.

meaning having someone like say Sue Ellen be a drunk than have her fall off the wagon how many times? i think we've all lost count.
yes drama makes good tv. but having the same crap happen to this or that character isn't good tv it just gets tiring. case in point the fight between Cliff and J.R. it's fun to watch yes. but even my parents admit that they got tired of seeing that feud after awhile.

they enjoyed i think like we all do. but it just got old. as for this new show. i agree that Christopher or rather how they've written it does seem to be like that. this is my thoughts the feud who will Elena be with ok i can see that, sometimes that works & sometimes it doesn't as on any show.

but what's bad writing isn't the character of Rebecca she doesn't really bother me to be honest. but what does is like i said putting in the 1st episode Christopher getting Married. because if they are writing it to have him be like Bobby where Bobby didn't cheat on Pam. yet J.R. did Cheat on Sue Ellen or whoever he was with at this or that time.

it just seems like want him to Cheat on Rebecca. i get him being upset & going to Elena. & doing stupid things. that's believable.
but don't write him like another J.R. minus the evil bastard part.

but just a man whore. i guess you could call it. they do the love triangle all the time on shows. case in Point "Vampire Diaries" '
LOST" etc.. the list goes on. yet on either of those shows they didn't marry off them to cause drama. yes shows like day time soaps are a bit different. but if they wrote Bobby as a good guy who doesn't cheat. & pretty much raised his son the same way.

& well John Ross is like his father. they i get writing him that way. than they should write Christopher the same way. Bobby is weak to a degree & he can be a weak character at times. true, but if he's pushed the right way as J.R. always pushed him he get be a pretty strong character. & yes they even had Bobby beat J.R. a few times which i also like. so it makes sense for them to write Christopher the same way too.

& oh there already has been a Psycho bitch on the show already she was killed last week. i don't want them to turn Rebecca into one. though Christopher should just come right out & say even if it's to Bobby i don't know what i want. if they want to continue having the love triangle which i'm sure they will do.

than have christopher & Rebecca get divorced or something? or just get rid of the plot on if he will hook up with Elena altogether.
anyone agree or disagree?

I don't know - personally I love John Ross with Elena - and I'd keep Chris and Rebecca with their long suffering marriage - doesn't have to be cheating but if things keep up I would see that happen - idk. I'd have John Ross always insecure about Chris but know that she would never cheat on him if for no other reason Chris wouldn't do that. Idk - it is complicated. I get the love triangle kind of thing - it is a classic that keeps people tuning in. You make a good point about things getting old - I just hope they don't let it get old and wear it out. Like to me this Chris and John Ross fight is worn out - it is old - it is Bobby and JR all over again. These two boys should not be exactly like their fathers (I'm not a copy of my father). That story and those two people were played out. As for good and evil - I like things a bit more complicated then that. I don't see John Ross as evil and Chris as good - I see them like this, John Ross loves Elena and loves the idea of being what his father things he should be, being a "Jock Ewing" - so all that seems good, a man in love, good at business, etc. He tries to scheme taking what his uncle was only going to sell anyway (face it Bobby is not upset at loosing Southfork, it is how he lost it to and what he wants to do with it) and he tries to do business fair once he gets into business. Chris is trying to work on a new energy source, I think he things it will be more environmentally friendly, he wants to be 'in love' with someone and have a great relationship but he has trust and security issues of his own. Like John Ross can say nasty things to Chris, Chris can too. Chris tries to be loyal to his father but doesn't stand up to him (as he would know that oil could be drilled and the land protected at the same time today). They both are pretty good, loving boys, they both get hurt, they both hurt each other, they both have some decent morals, they both make a lot of mistakes trying to "men."

[quiche]

I don't know - personally I love John Ross with Elena - and I'd keep Chris and Rebecca with their long suffering marriage - doesn't have to be cheating but if things keep up I would see that happen - idk. I'd have John Ross always insecure about Chris but know that she would never cheat on him if for no other reason Chris wouldn't do that. Idk - it is complicated. I get the love triangle kind of thing - it is a classic that keeps people tuning in. You make a good point about things getting old - I just hope they don't let it get old and wear it out. Like to me this Chris and John Ross fight is worn out - it is old - it is Bobby and JR all over again. These two boys should not be exactly like their fathers (I'm not a copy of my father). That story and those two people were played out. As for good and evil - I like things a bit more complicated then that. I don't see John Ross as evil and Chris as good - I see them like this, John Ross loves Elena and loves the idea of being what his father things he should be, being a "Jock Ewing" - so all that seems good, a man in love, good at business, etc. He tries to scheme taking what his uncle was only going to sell anyway (face it Bobby is not upset at loosing Southfork, it is how he lost it to and what he wants to do with it) and he tries to do business fair once he gets into business. Chris is trying to work on a new energy source, I think he things it will be more environmentally friendly, he wants to be 'in love' with someone and have a great relationship but he has trust and security issues of his own. Like John Ross can say nasty things to Chris, Chris can too. Chris tries to be loyal to his father but doesn't stand up to him (as he would know that oil could be drilled and the land protected at the same time today). They both are pretty good, loving boys, they both get hurt, they both hurt each other, they both have some decent morals, they both make a lot of mistakes trying to "men."

Unfortunately there's something that I think most people overlooked regarding John Ross. Yes, he does truly love Elena. But he wasn't faithful to her.

When John Ross was with Marta that night after the Cattleman's Ball, one of them mentioned that they had already had sex in Las Vegas. Go back and see that scene. I never miss the bits on sex. Isn't it curious how Las Vegas came up a couple of times now regarding Marta?

We know that the original fraud to get SF was planned by John Ross and Marta. The first episode John Ross met with someone in a sporty red car - that was Marta. Because we saw later it was her car. So John Ross had somehow met Marta in Las Vegas, probably while he was seeing Elena because we saw that he and Elena were together from the start of the series. John Ross and Marta had sex in Las Vegas while they hatched this fraud.

And all this means that John Ross is like J.R., they may "love" the woman they are with, but they always cheat on them.

[JRandSueEllenForever]

I'd rather see John Ross end up with Elena too--he deserves her more than Christopher does. I don't see Christopher as good and John Ross as evil. And I agree that both boys are not mirror images of their fathers, which is good. Christopher doesn't want to be the moral upstanding guy his father always was. In his mind, enough is enough, time to fight fire with fire. Time for blood. I do see some of JR in John Ross (he's got JR's charm), but John Ross is also very different from JR. He may be more like Jock. Jock was a tough, shrewd man, but he did have a lot of redeeming qualities JR never had. John Ross has more redeeming qualities than JR too. Both boys seem to want their fathers to be proud of them. Christopher still has insecurity issues with being adopted and not a blood Ewing. John Ross has issues with his parents' bad marriage and the way he was raised. I would like to see them bond together against a common enemy, like a son of Cliff Barnes. But I imagine loving the same woman is going to keep them from ever bonding. Can anyone imagine JR and Bobby fighting over the same woman?

[quiche]

I'd rather see John Ross end up with Elena too--he deserves her more than Christopher does. I don't see Christopher as good and John Ross as evil. And I agree that both boys are not mirror images of their fathers, which is good. Christopher doesn't want to be the moral upstanding guy his father always was. In his mind, enough is enough, time to fight fire with fire. Time for blood. I do see some of JR in John Ross (he's got JR's charm), but John Ross is also very different from JR. He may be more like Jock. Jock was a tough, shrewd man, but he did have a lot of redeeming qualities JR never had. John Ross has more redeeming qualities than JR too. Both boys seem to want their fathers to be proud of them. Christopher still has insecurity issues with being adopted and not a blood Ewing. John Ross has issues with his parents' bad marriage and the way he was raised. I would like to see them bond together against a common enemy, like a son of Cliff Barnes. But I imagine loving the same woman is going to keep them from ever bonding. Can anyone imagine JR and Bobby fighting over the same woman?

Christopher probably has more than a little J.R. in him also because he grew up on Southfork in the same house with J.R.

Curious how we never hear him say "Uncle" J.R. But from what I remember of the Season 14 episodes, J.R. did act like an uncle to Christopher.

[Jock-1981]

Look how Pam was pregnant,but something would happen and change that. I have a feeling Rebecca will be the same way. I can't see her becoming a mother so early in the new series.

[quiche]

Look how Pam was pregnant,but something would happen and change that. I have a feeling Rebecca will be the same way. I can't see her becoming a mother so early in the new series.

Losing a baby is one thing. Losing twins is something altogether different.

[Tatianna]

Valene Ewing (Christopher's aunt-by-marriage) gave birth to twins and no one could ever accuse her of having a non-dramatic life.

Exactly! Especially where her "babies" are concerned there was much drama. JR plucked baby Lucy from her arms, and then when she had her twins, darned if they both didn't get "stolen". Seems like it was difficult for Ewing women to have children and keep their children. Pam had miscarriages, John Ross got kidnapped by a deranged woman then rejected by his mother and father for a while. Anyone want to guess which storyline is going to be exploited this time with Rebecca?

[Pam's Twin Sister]

Valene Ewing (Christopher's aunt-by-marriage) gave birth to twins and no one could ever accuse her of having a non-dramatic life.

I was thinking myself something like that! If Val could have an interesting soap life, then Rebecca and anyone else in this show can do the same! But please, no brain viruses!

[Pam's Twin Sister]

Exactly! Especially where her "babies" are concerned there was much drama. JR plucked baby Lucy from her arms, and then when she had her twins, darned if they both didn't get "stolen". Seems like it was difficult for Ewing women to have children and keep their children. Pam had miscarriages, John Ross got kidnapped by a deranged woman then rejected by his mother and father for a while. Anyone want to guess which storyline is going to be exploited this time with Rebecca?

I do: Rebecca and Tommy are not brothers but lovers, and she was impregnated by him before her wedding. So this way we will soon have the very first little bastard in this new Dallas!

Oh and on the "honeymoon" night, Chris impregated her again, so there will be two more feuding half-brothers to continue the show until 2033, minimum.

[Tatianna]

I do: Rebecca and Tommy are not brothers but lovers, and she was impregnated by him before her wedding. So this way we will soon have the very first little bastard in this new Dallas!

Christopher already had a DNA showing him as the father.

[JRandSueEllenForever]

The writers won't be cruel enough to have her miscarry twins. I predict the twins will provide plenty of drama themselves. I originally wondered if they could have different fathers (like Sami's twins on Days of Our Lives), but they've had that DNA test done which resulted in Christopher being the father--I assume of both babies. I suppose Christopher will stay with her, not because he loves her but because she is the mother of his babies. But he will be forever torn between his children and Elena.

[Pam's Twin Sister]

Sorry I didn´t know, I haven´t watched the two last episodes yet!!