Wise, Intelligent Americans say: "We Know Obamacare will hurt us!"

[fireweaver]

Why is America unique in being unable to provide full health cover? I'm not trying to wind u up or play politics. Everyone else in the Western world can take health care for granted. Why can't America?

Look at the U.S. military budget. All your questions will be answered.

[fireweaver]

Hmm...those that can't do, preach.

Good point. It looks like David1987 is becoming our new chew-toy.

[fireweaver]

Okay, what is the lesser of two evils:

-Birth control, sterilization, and exams & labwork made available to every woman who doesn't necessarily want a child?

OR

-An endless supply of food stamps, Medicaid, and TANF to every pregnant woman you see with 4 other small children around her?


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Fireweaver, didn't we have this same discussion with Carl in another thread? What is it with men who don't understand how important women's healthcare is? Birth control and gynecological exams are not just for pregnancy prevention. There are so many things we have to be screened for now---cysts, cancer, endometriosis---the list goes on. My good friend from high school is fighting stage III ovarian cancer right now at age 26. She had her first surgery this week to remove some of the tumors---JUST now, at stage III. You know what her biggest hangup was besides losing her organs? MONEY.

Putting a price tag on healthcare is effing ridiculous. I maintain that it should be a right, not a privilege.

We did indeed. My sister died from cervical cancer. This was before the HPV vaccines were developed and that asshole Texass governor of ours essentially banned it claiming it would lead to increased slutdom or some other such bull shiite. The same garbage david1987 is spouting.

[fireweaver]

So can human trafficking & the sex trade.

And birth control - there's this free option. It's called abstinence. A wild idea I know but if you don't want a baby you shouldn't do something that's going to make one!

I can see why you would preach abstinence - you can't get any yourself so you spout nonsense to make yourself feel all better and superior and stuff.
Get a grip kiddo - biology trumps morality every time. Full stop.

[fireweaver]

Oh, I thought he was asking me the question personally. I see now. That's comforting...a little.

This is not uncomon though. A lot of older virgins will cover up their insecurity of it by condomning sex all together. They make it seem like it's their choice not to participate as it is an evil, foul deed. Quite sad really.

I would really like to lure little david over to Pharyngula and let them have their way with him. Little david types traipse through there all the time and end up either being banned, banished to the "dungeon", or running away with their tails tucked firmly between their legs (after being thoroughly macerated).

[fireweaver]

Have a look at what's happening in Kenya. Women are saying their husbands are raping them and forcing them to have children. What "help" is their government giving them? Birth control. No arrests of rapists or anything crazy now...

System error: Bullshit detected - Citation needed.

[Fajita Mel]

We did indeed. My sister died from cervical cancer. This was before the HPV vaccines were developed and that asshole Texass governor of ours essentially banned it claiming it would lead to increased slutdom or some other such bull shiite. The same garbage david1987 is spouting.

See? I'm sorry about your sister. HPV is one of those things you can have for years and never know.

And I can only imagine just WHO that governor was....

[fireweaver]

See? I'm sorry about your sister. HPV is one of those things you can have for years and never know.

And I can only imagine just WHO that governor was....

More like WHAT.

[david1987]

So why not invent a drug that treats the disease, instead of one that has "the side effect" of killing someone?

[fireweaver]

So why not invent a drug that treats the disease, instead of one that has "the side effect" of killing someone?

What are you talking about Davey? Be specific.

[Fajita Mel]

What? Like blood clots? Anyone can fatally throw a blood clot. There are risks with every drug, surgery, or treatment out there---even something as mild as acetaminophen (Tylenol) can cause serious liver damage with prolonged use.

[Canyon340]

You don't shoot someone in the head then say whoops didn't think that'd happen.

Think I would make an exception in your case....

[fireweaver]

I'm sticking this link in every thread that has been infected with the hate-virus david1987:

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/pu..._download/file

[montyc]

So can human trafficking & the sex trade.

And birth control - there's this free option. It's called abstinence. A wild idea I know but if you don't want a baby you shouldn't do something that's going to make one!

You don't shoot someone in the head then say whoops didn't think that'd happen.

Better don't do anything that will cause pregnancy. Oral, anal and hand jobs galore!

[montyc]

Most Americans think President Barack Obama’s health care reform law will harm taxpayers and businesses, while helping those directly threatened by a lack of health care, according to a Gallup Poll released Monday.

Sixty percent believe the law will make things worse for taxpayers, 57 percent think it will do so for businesses, 51 percent think it will do so for doctors and 46 percent think people with health insurance will be worse off.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz20n2Fd56o

The affordable care act, aka Obamacare, is little more than measly private insurance reform. It makes it easier to get access to PRIVATE INSURANCE and forces the insurance industry to stop the most egregious abuses such as lifetime limits, rejecting claims with virtually no recourse, or retroactively cancelling your policy when you need it the most. All of which are currently allowed.

[fireweaver]

Better don't do anything that will cause pregnancy. Oral, anal and hand jobs galore!

But to david1987, all that is icky and ... well ... gay.

[McGarrett .]

Sorry.. I thought this thread was about the disaster known as "ObamaCare"

[Emmerdalefan]

But to david1987, all that is icky and ... well ... gay.

Last night in 1 post David1987 being the massive bigoted hypocrite he is tried to take the moral high ground. I wondered what the vomit coming from the sky was as he had altitude sickness .