Wise, Intelligent Americans say: "We Know Obamacare will hurt us!"

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Most Americans think President Barack Obama’s health care reform law will harm taxpayers and businesses, while helping those directly threatened by a lack of health care, according to a Gallup Poll released Monday.

Sixty percent believe the law will make things worse for taxpayers, 57 percent think it will do so for businesses, 51 percent think it will do so for doctors and 46 percent think people with health insurance will be worse off.

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[McGarrett .]

ok. here is the FACT. OUR COUNTRY IS BROKE! We are borrowing money from other countries to pay for our out of control spending.

When you borrow money, you have to have collateral. What do you think our country is using as collateral for the TRILLIONS of dollars it is borrowing? The answer is OUR NATIONAL PARKS!

Whether Obmacare is good or bad is a moot point. The point is that WE CAN NOT AFFORD to pay for it. The only thing keeping our nation afloat is that the US dollar has the status as the world standard currency. If we lose that status, and we are in very real danger of doing so, the bottom will drop out from under the Dollar overnight and it will be worth less then the Peso. Look up "World standard currency" and it will scare the hell out of you.

[anndra_w]

ok. here is the FACT. OUR COUNTRY IS BROKE! We are borrowing money from other countries to pay for our out of control spending.

When you borrow money, you have to have collateral. What do you think our country is using as collateral for the TRILLIONS of dollars it is borrowing? The answer is OUR NATIONAL PARKS!

Whether Obmacare is good or bad is a moot point. The point is that WE CAN NOT AFFORD to pay for it. The only thing keeping our nation afloat is that the US dollar has the status as the world standard currency. If we lose that status, and we are in very real danger of doing so, the bottom will drop out from under the Dollar overnight and it will be worth less then the Peso. Look up "World standard currency" and it will scare the hell out of you.

Why is America unique in being unable to provide full health cover? I'm not trying to wind u up or play politics. Everyone else in the Western world can take health care for granted. Why can't America?

[fireweaver]

Why is America unique in being unable to provide full health cover? I'm not trying to wind u up or play politics. Everyone else in the Western world can take health care for granted. Why can't America?

Look at the U.S. military budget. All your questions will be answered.

[david1987]

Dear Obama,

Pregnancy is not an illness. Being a slut isn't a profession and no one else should have to fund their lifestyle.

[SnarkyOracle!]

Dear Obama,

Pregnancy is not an illness. Being a slut isn't a profession and no one else should have to fund their lifestyle.

Oh, don't worry. Your sex life is unlikely to produce unwanted pregnancies anyway.

[fireweaver]

Oh, don't worry. Your sex life is unlikely to produce unwanted pregnancies anyway.

I basically told him that in another post.

[Darius]

Dear Obama,

Being a slut isn't a profession

But it can be. And a profitable one too.

[david1987]

But it can be. And a profitable one too.

So can human trafficking & the sex trade.

And birth control - there's this free option. It's called abstinence. A wild idea I know but if you don't want a baby you shouldn't do something that's going to make one!

You don't shoot someone in the head then say whoops didn't think that'd happen.

[Afton]

And birth control - there's this free option. It's called abstinence. A wild idea I know but if you don't want a baby you shouldn't do something that's going to make one!

You've obviously never been in a relationship.

[david1987]

You've obviously never been in a relationship.

Are you being raped or something?

[SnarkyOracle!]

So can human trafficking & the sex trade.

And birth control - there's this free option. It's called abstinence. A wild idea I know but if you don't want a baby you shouldn't do something that's going to make one!

You don't shoot someone in the head then say whoops didn't think that'd happen.

You don't seem to be very sophisticated, david. Are you virginal, or do you not wish to discuss it?

[fireweaver]

So can human trafficking & the sex trade.

And birth control - there's this free option. It's called abstinence. A wild idea I know but if you don't want a baby you shouldn't do something that's going to make one!

I can see why you would preach abstinence - you can't get any yourself so you spout nonsense to make yourself feel all better and superior and stuff.
Get a grip kiddo - biology trumps morality every time. Full stop.

[Canyon340]

You don't shoot someone in the head then say whoops didn't think that'd happen.

Think I would make an exception in your case....

[montyc]

So can human trafficking & the sex trade.

And birth control - there's this free option. It's called abstinence. A wild idea I know but if you don't want a baby you shouldn't do something that's going to make one!

You don't shoot someone in the head then say whoops didn't think that'd happen.

Better don't do anything that will cause pregnancy. Oral, anal and hand jobs galore!

[fireweaver]

Better don't do anything that will cause pregnancy. Oral, anal and hand jobs galore!

But to david1987, all that is icky and ... well ... gay.

[fireweaver]

Dear Obama,

Pregnancy is not an illness. Being a slut isn't a profession and no one else should have to fund their lifestyle.

Well, when you spew a bunch of random drivel, you're statistically likely to get something right once in a while. So you're actually right about pregnancy not being a disease.

As far as the business of "funding slut's lifestyles", it that some kind of reference to birth control?

Do you really have a problem with women being autonomous agents, capable of acting entirely on their own without your "manly assistance"?

[Afton]

Dear Obama,

Pregnancy is not an illness. Being a slut isn't a profession and no one else should have to fund their lifestyle.

Hmm...those that can't do, preach.

[fireweaver]

Hmm...those that can't do, preach.

Good point. It looks like David1987 is becoming our new chew-toy.

[Fajita Mel]

Okay, what is the lesser of two evils:

-Birth control, sterilization, and exams & labwork made available to every woman who doesn't necessarily want a child?

OR

-An endless supply of food stamps, Medicaid, and TANF to every pregnant woman you see with 4 other small children around her?


I once had to make the walk of shame downtown to apply for assistance when I hit hard times. I have no children and I'm not ready for one. Guess what I qualified for? Nothing! I was a student, recently laid off and had filed for unemployment. I pounded the pavement and searched online for work every day, but they told me I was disqualified because I was a student and didn't have a job working at least 20 hours a week (no shit, I had been laid off five days earlier) and I wasn't doing federal work-study through school (at the whopping pay out of $7.25 an hour for 15 hours a week, I was making more at my full time job that I lost). I was like "Okay, so give me a job! I'll work!!" No such luck, and not even $200 a month in food stamps to eat. Guess what the pregnant woman with four kids qualified for? EVERYTHING. Cash benefits for her ankle biters and the guy who was sitting there with her, too.

But I guess since I'd like help getting the pill for the painful mess that results if I'm not taking any....that makes me a slut. I'm not taking birth control pills for the mere fact that my cramps will bring me to my knees in the middle of a crowded supermarket....let's not even talk about the blood....no!! I'm so much of a slut and I'm so damn good at it that I recently decided to become a full-fledged whore. Why not make some extra cash while I'm at it? I need SOME way to pay for my lifestyle, after all.

Fireweaver, didn't we have this same discussion with Carl in another thread? What is it with men who don't understand how important women's healthcare is? Birth control and gynecological exams are not just for pregnancy prevention. There are so many things we have to be screened for now---cysts, cancer, endometriosis---the list goes on. My good friend from high school is fighting stage III ovarian cancer right now at age 26. She had her first surgery this week to remove some of the tumors---JUST now, at stage III. You know what her biggest hangup was besides losing her organs? MONEY.

Putting a price tag on healthcare is effing ridiculous. I maintain that it should be a right, not a privilege.