NC "Marriage" Amendment

[Mel O'Drama]

It's not an assumption that it's a choice to be gay, it's a scientific fact.

Hmmm.

Anyone who says they are Christian but gay is twisting it for their own desires.

I really don't know about that. But I do I know gay Christians whose faith works for them, so who am I to question their motives? Though, of course, not being atheist doesn't always equate to being Christian, does it?

[fireweaver]

Maybe that's your block, David. Remove the assumptions that "gay = atheist", "gay = choice" and "gay = no children of your own" and you may get somewhere.

Or are you perhaps referring to the many, many heterosexual couples who are unable to have children of their own as the people whose relationship belongs into inverted commas?

I'm already convinced that David doesn't really know what he is talking about. DHUA and all that.

[fireweaver]

It's not an assumption that it's a choice to be gay, it's a scientific fact. Anyone who says they are Christian but gay is twisting it for their own desires.

Prove it. Smart money says you cannot.

[SnarkyOracle!]

It's not an assumption that it's a choice to be gay, it's a scientific fact. Anyone who says they are Christian but gay is twisting it for their own desires.

Gee, weren't you the one who was just insisting "sin is sin"?

[david1987]

What? Your question makes no sense.

[SnarkyOracle!]

What? Your question makes no sense.

Yet again, selective confusion from David.

[david1987]

I stated the fact that homosexuality is not genetic and that anyone saying they are Christian but trying to justify going against God's laws is being twisted.

What does that have to do with 'sin being sin'?

[fireweaver]

I stated the fact that homosexuality is not genetic and that anyone saying they are Christian but trying to justify going against God's laws is being twisted.

What does that have to do with 'sin being sin'?

Do you believe in the idea that god makes each one of us as a separate act of creation?

[SnarkyOracle!]

I stated the fact that homosexuality is not genetic and that anyone saying they are Christian but trying to justify going against God's laws is being twisted.

What does that have to do with 'sin being sin'?

Yet again, selective confusion from David. Some of the biggest devils can be found in the church.

[fireweaver]

Yet again, selective confusion from David. Some of the biggest devils can be found in the church.

Speaking of Christian devils, one of them, Jay Townsend, GOP Spokesman, says: 'Let's Hurl Some Acid At Those Female Democratic Senators'. I certainly would not want to throw acid at him, but using his mouth as a urinal sounds appealing.

[david1987]

Do you believe in the idea that god makes each one of us as a separate act of creation?

Yes. We're not rolled off a production line.

The LORD called me before my birth; from within the womb he called me by name. - Isaiah 49:1

You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother’s womb. Thank you for making me so wonderfully complex! Your workmanship is marvelous—how well I know it. You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb. You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed. Psalm 139:13-16

And if I may throw these in too :

So God created human beingst in his own image. In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. - Genesis 1:27-28
This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one. - Genesis 2:24

[fireweaver]

Yes. We're not rolled off a production line.

So you believe that god makes gays?

[david1987]

Again, I point you to science that tells us being gay is not genetic....

[fireweaver]

Again, I point you to science that tells us being gay is not genetic....

So you're saying god makes gays?

[david1987]

As i've said before it's a choice. How many times will we go round in this circle?

[fireweaver]

As i've said before it's a choice. How many times will we go round in this circle?

Answer the question: Does god make gays?

[david1987]

No, He does not.

[fireweaver]

No, He does not.

So you are saying that gays are a separate creation? If so, whose creation are they?

[david1987]

Like I said, people are not created gay; they choose to be gay.

[fireweaver]

Like I said, people are not created gay; they choose to be gay.

You still haven't answered the question. Does god make gays and if not, who does?