Is Joe Biden Still on the Obama Ticket for November Elections?

[Scarlett]

The shit he was left isn't flushed out very quickly.

Isn't that besides the point?

Obama is a good speaker, he's got this presence that everyone seems to pick up on, but I still think he swindled and tricked voters four years ago. The question is can he repeat this year?

[SnarkyOracle!]

Isn't that besides the point?

Obama is a good speaker, he's got this presence that everyone seems to pick up on, but I still think he swindled and tricked voters four years ago. The question is can he repeat this year?

Oh, that's cute: Obama swindled an election.

The rotten things Bush and (mostly) the Republicans did to this country will be with us for decades.

[Garrison]

Anyone interested in why the VPOTUS selection is irrelevant should watch HBO's Veep. Wonderful show.

Don't think it matters who's on the ticket with Obama, it won't sway folks to vote or not to vote for him.

They'll look at their own financial situation, gas $$, the unemployment rate, etc to decide (hopefully).

yeah, funny how in 2004 your lot was bending over backward to remind us that THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T CONTROL THE COST OF GAS! and don't try and bullshit your way out of it... I was on your side at the time, I listened to Rush and Hannity and even Michael Savage. Also, if they look at the unemployment rate they will come to the rather obvious conclusion that it's fallen every single month for the past 9 or so. And those numbers are observable in every single state individually. The entire Republican position is built on fantasy... trumpeting the problems in the Eurozone but then prescribing the same sort of austerity measures that are seeing Britain in a double dip recession and Europe still falling apart. Socialist governments are coming to power in France and Greece and Ireland and probably the Netherlands next. Labour has an 8 point lead on the Conservatives in British polls. Reality, once again, has a well known liberal bias

Romney has no shot of winning because every presidential election comes down to two basic things... energized base and women. Romney has neither, nor will he ever posses either. Anyone who could save his standing with the right wing base is running away as fast as they can so they can be unscathed for 2016, and anyone who will help him with women will just hurt the base support even more. He can't win for losing. Obama has a recovering economy on his side and barring a Bush One style freefall, this one is already over.

As for Obama, a card carrying Third Way acolyte whose cabinet includes two Republicans amid a sea of Clinton retreads, finding someone more "conservative", I'm at a loss. The kind of ultra-right Zell Miller Dems don't exist anymore and even if they did picking one would just cause the young and the progressive to abandon him even more than they already have (for being too conservative, you see). Obama is fine doing what he always has... playing the middle, pushing compromise and allowing himself to appear above the fray. Biden is the perfect Veep because he's all too happy to do the dirty work on the President's behalf. Clinton is a poor choice because she could never do that, it would hurt her if she ran in 2016. Biden is too old to mount a serious campaign, so it's not a concern.

If not for the gaffes, I'd be compelled to rate Biden as the greatest VP of the past 50 years. But that title goes to Chaney, dark lord that he is.

[CarlD]

Obama is a good speaker, he's got this presence that everyone seems to pick up on, but I still think he swindled and tricked voters four years ago. The question is can he repeat this year?

The "Obama magic" we saw in 2008 (people fainting in the audience, etc) is long gone. They found out Obama isn't the god they thought he was, but a simple man.

The youth vote also probably won't show up in Nov like they did in 2008. He does though, still have a very good chance of being re-elected, I would say.

[CarlD]

Anyone interested in why the VPOTUS selection is irrelevant should watch HBO's Veep. Wonderful show.



yeah, funny how in 2004 your lot was bending over backward to remind us that THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T CONTROL THE COST OF GAS! and don't try and bullshit your way out of it... I was on your side at the time, I listened to Rush and Hannity and even Michael Savage. Also, if they look at the unemployment rate they will come to the rather obvious conclusion that it's fallen every single month for the past 9 or so. And those numbers are observable in every single state individually. The entire Republican position is built on fantasy... trumpeting the problems in the Eurozone but then prescribing the same sort of austerity measures that are seeing Britain in a double dip recession and Europe still falling apart. Socialist governments are coming to power in France and Greece and Ireland and probably the Netherlands next. Labour has an 8 point lead on the Conservatives in British polls. Reality, once again, has a well known liberal bias

Romney has no shot of winning because every presidential election comes down to two basic things... energized base and women. Romney has neither, nor will he ever posses either. Anyone who could save his standing with the right wing base is running away as fast as they can so they can be unscathed for 2016, and anyone who will help him with women will just hurt the base support even more. He can't win for losing. Obama has a recovering economy on his side and barring a Bush One style freefall, this one is already over.

As for Obama, a card carrying Third Way acolyte whose cabinet includes two Republicans amid a sea of Clinton retreads, finding someone more "conservative", I'm at a loss. The kind of ultra-right Zell Miller Dems don't exist anymore and even if they did picking one would just cause the young and the progressive to abandon him even more than they already have (for being too conservative, you see). Obama is fine doing what he always has... playing the middle, pushing compromise and allowing himself to appear above the fray. Biden is the perfect Veep because he's all too happy to do the dirty work on the President's behalf. Clinton is a poor choice because she could never do that, it would hurt her if she ran in 2016. Biden is too old to mount a serious campaign, so it's not a concern.

If not for the gaffes, I'd be compelled to rate Biden as the greatest VP of the past 50 years. But that title goes to Chaney, dark lord that he is.

Just as the Democrats are doing now (IF they are forced to bring it up). We all know it's politics.

The Democrats (including Senator Obama) were blaming George W Bush for $3.00 gas !!

Senator Obama, also called George Bush "unpatriotic" for running up our debt so much ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, So now that President Obama has added more to the national debt in 3.5 years than Bush did in 8 years, I guess HE would say he is unpatriotic ???

[SnarkyOracle!]

Just as the Democrats are doing now (IF they are forced to bring it up). We all know it's politics.

The Democrats (including Senator Obama) were blaming George W Bush for $3.00 gas !!

Senator Obama, also called George Bush "unpatriotic" for running up our debt so much ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, So now that President Obama has added more to the national debt in 3.5 years than Bush did in 8 years, I guess HE would say he is unpatriotic ???

Because Obama is still paying for Bush's wars.

[CarlD]

Because Obama is still paying for Bush's wars.

The record amount Obama has added to our deficit, is totally separate from what Obama inherited (the 2 wars).

[Scarlett]

Again, I'm hearing rumors that Hilary could be the running mate for Obama.

[CarlD]

Again, I'm hearing rumors that Hilary could be the running mate for Obama.

Rumors are all out there how Bill REALLY pressed Hillary to run in 2012.

Too late now. Maybe in 2016 she can go up against President Romney.

[Scarlett]

If the Clintons want the office in 2016 then Hillary should attach herself to the Obama VP slot (if offered to her) and use that as her starting off point for the next four years.

[CarlD]

If the Clintons want the office in 2016 then Hillary should attach herself to the Obama VP slot (if offered to her) and use that as her starting off point for the next four years.

Agree. Biden is a buffoon, his latest screaming at some rally trying to convince the "little people" that he, a multi millionare, is just like them.

Depends if Obama offers her the job of course.