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    WRITTEN BY A 21 YEAR OLD FEMALE Who "Gets It"



    I am going to let Newt know we have found him a VP running mate from Texas

    who truly understands the situation at hand.



    Wow, this lady has a great plan! Love the last thing she would do the best.



    This was written by a 21 yr old female who gets it. It's her future she's worried about

    and this is how she feels about the social welfare big government state that she's

    being forced to live in! These solutions are just common sense in her opinion.



    This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, TX, Nov 18, 2011



    PUT ME IN CHARGE . . .



    Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs

    or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of Rice and Beans, blocks of Cheese and all the powdered milk you can drink. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.



    Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women Norplant

    birth control implants or tubal legations. Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol,

    and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, or smoke, then get a job.



    Put me in charge of Government Housing. Ever live in a military barracks?

    You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair.

    Your home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried.

    If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.



    In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week

    or you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash,

    painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you.

    We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo

    and speakers and put that money toward the "common good.."



    Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of

    the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules.

    Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem,"

    consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for doing

    absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.



    If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt

    to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them

    for continuing to make bad choices.



    AND While you choose to be on Gov't subsistence, you no longer can VOTE!

    Yes, that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily

    remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov't welfare check.

    If you want to vote, then get a job.



    Now, if you have the guts - PASS IT ON...

    I just have to share this with everyone. This woman seems like a rockstar with a master plan to turn the country around.

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    Ann Coulter has a daughter?????

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    hahaha

    ok

    written like a 21 year old girl who's parents are paying for her education and has never once needed to worry about a damn thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrison View Post
    hahaha

    ok

    written like a 21 year old girl who's parents are paying for her education and has never once needed to worry about a damn thing
    Garrison, you don't know this woman's background (neither do I) but I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. She could be the girl who worked in high school and worked in college to get a degree - you have no proof of anything based on her letter in the Texas paper.

    And what is so wrong with what she's saying? What's wrong with expecting others to at least attempt to find work, to improve themselves rather than waiting for a handout. The country is going into deeper debt due to handouts that have not been earned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlett View Post
    Garrison, you don't know this woman's background (neither do I) but I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. She could be the girl who worked in high school and worked in college to get a degree - you have no proof of anything based on her letter in the Texas paper.

    And what is so wrong with what she's saying? What's wrong with expecting others to at least attempt to find work, to improve themselves rather than waiting for a handout. The country is going into deeper debt due to handouts that have not been earned.
    If there are no jobs to go around, then what? Seriously. I think most people would work given the chance, the few that really have as their goal in life to sponge off the system are not as numerous as you might think.

    Let Congress redefine what it means to be an "American Company". Such as: If you want to sell your junk here, then make (a significant fraction of) it here. If you offshore all your manufacturing, then you are a foreign company, even if your base of operations is here in the states (which means you get to pay extra taxes). (I think that this is one of the issues that have the "Occupy ..." groups exercised.)

    Increase the tax base: Remove all tax exemptions for churches and similar organisations and force then to declare their financials. These parasites contribute nothing useful, so let them pay their own way.

    The infrastructure in this country is breaking down; in this case, the little girl's comments have some merit. There are plenty of strong backs coupled with weak minds to do this kind of work, and it will keep them occupied for literally decades.

    What does the little girl want to do with people who are disabled?

    The little girl's last comment is blatantly exclusionary, disenfranchisement is something normally only done to convicts. And it would appear from her letter that she actually desires that poor people be treated as literal criminals. In which case, we better start building those concentration camps right away. /sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireweaver View Post
    If there are no jobs to go around, then what? Seriously. I think most people would work given the chance, the few that really have as their goal in life to sponge off the system are not as numerous as you might think.

    Let Congress redefine what it means to be an "American Company". Such as: If you want to sell your junk here, then make (a significant fraction of) it here. If you offshore all your manufacturing, then you are a foreign company, even if your base of operations is here in the states (which means you get to pay extra taxes). (I think that this is one of the issues that have the "Occupy ..." groups exercised.)

    Increase the tax base: Remove all tax exemptions for churches and similar organisations and force then to declare their financials. These parasites contribute nothing useful, so let them pay their own way.

    The infrastructure in this country is breaking down; in this case, the little girl's comments have some merit. There are plenty of strong backs coupled with weak minds to do this kind of work, and it will keep them occupied for literally decades.

    What does the little girl want to do with people who are disabled?

    The little girl's last comment is blatantly exclusionary, disenfranchisement is something normally only done to convicts. And it would appear from her letter that she actually desires that poor people be treated as literal criminals. In which case, we better start building those concentration camps right away. /sarcasm
    She's not a little girl, she's 21 (legal adult) and seems highly educated.

    There are always jobs out there, people just may not want to do them (i.e. food service, retail, picking up trash). I can understand why those jobs could be seen as unpopular, but saying that there are no jobs is a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlett View Post
    Garrison, you don't know this woman's background (neither do I) but I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. She could be the girl who worked in high school and worked in college to get a degree - you have no proof of anything based on her letter in the Texas paper.

    And what is so wrong with what she's saying? What's wrong with expecting others to at least attempt to find work, to improve themselves rather than waiting for a handout. The country is going into deeper debt due to handouts that have not been earned.
    She's doing the same thing I am. I'm willing to bet she's never been on welfare or needed medicaid or public housing and yet she is willing to judge everyone who has through an incredibly narrow lens. There are not enough jobs to go around, there is not truly equal access to things like education. This idea that you're mooching or not trying if you dare to require a handout is exactly the kind of logic I expect from people who have never been there.

    When I was 21 and living in an isolated bubble at a university where I didn't pay for anything, it was very easy for me to feel the same way. Now that I'm working at the only job I could find, for below a living wage, I understand that life isn't all hunky dory and about pulling yourself up by bootstraps. The American Dream is just a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlett View Post
    She's not a little girl, she's 21 (legal adult) and seems highly educated.

    There are always jobs out there, people just may not want to do them (i.e. food service, retail, picking up trash). I can understand why those jobs could be seen as unpopular, but saying that there are no jobs is a lie.
    do you know what those jobs pay, Scarlett? do you know what the term "living wage" means? I work in retail at the moment. I make $9 an hour and oftentimes work much less than a full 20 hours a week. I couldn't feed myself let alone anyone else and the healthcare they offer me isn't anywhere near what I'd need. This white, upper middle class fantasy world where people are expected to live off of their Burger King gig and people on government assistance are all unemployed is just fiction... I'm lucky enough to have a support system and educated enough to know I'm not going to be in this position forever, but I know quite a lot of people who have to stretch similar income levels to cover apartments and food and bills. I wouldn't begrudge them one bit if they needed the government's help to stay above water and neither should you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireweaver View Post
    If there are no jobs to go around, then what? Seriously. I think most people would work given the chance, the few that really have as their goal in life to sponge off the system are not as numerous as you might think.

    Let Congress redefine what it means to be an "American Company". Such as: If you want to sell your junk here, then make (a significant fraction of) it here. If you offshore all your manufacturing, then you are a foreign company, even if your base of operations is here in the states (which means you get to pay extra taxes). (I think that this is one of the issues that have the "Occupy ..." groups exercised.)

    Increase the tax base: Remove all tax exemptions for churches and similar organisations and force then to declare their financials. These parasites contribute nothing useful, so let them pay their own way.

    The infrastructure in this country is breaking down; in this case, the little girl's comments have some merit. There are plenty of strong backs coupled with weak minds to do this kind of work, and it will keep them occupied for literally decades.

    What does the little girl want to do with people who are disabled?

    The little girl's last comment is blatantly exclusionary, disenfranchisement is something normally only done to convicts. And it would appear from her letter that she actually desires that poor people be treated as literal criminals. In which case, we better start building those concentration camps right away. /sarcasm

    Fireweaver, I love your post.

    Folks like the 21 year old usially come from families that have had good fortune and could pass that on to their kids. I'm sure she is on her way to getting a college degree and will ahve a car and wardrobe paid for by her parents to start a job. Good for her.

    What she, and other religious conservatives who have had good fortune fail to understand that social safety nets exist to help those who have fallen on hard times.

    Here are some examples of people who would need social assistance:

    The woman who, rightly, married and made a home with her husband. When they were able to afford it, she quit her job to be at home with the baby. Hubby dies of cancer, leaving the wife to pay the medical bills and the life insurance policy money was spent up for the hospital bills. She now needs welfare until she can get affordable child care, update her work skills and then find a job.

    The child who has parents that are drug abusers who now are dying of AIDS. They pass away, and there are no other family members who are around to take the minor child in. The minor child will need medicaid to help with her condition, as the AIDS was passed to her in childbirth.

    There are hard luck stories that are happening every day in this country. The majority are out of the control of the person it happens to (death from disease, divorce, job loss, etc). And as far as I see it, as a civilized society, we take care of our fellow citizens when times get tough. That's what separates us from a 3rd world nation.

    I don't mind paying a little more in taxes for these social safety nets. Here is what a lack of it gets us:

    A man in Arizona suffers from schizophrenia. His parents have been dealing with it all of the child's life. Insurance took care of his medical bills, until the parents no longer had health insurance coverage. When the child, now an adult going to a community college, stops taking his medicine, the family has no choice but to throw him out of the house, as his mood swings and irrational behaviour became too much to handle alone. You cannot commit him to a mental institution until he becomes a threat to himself or others. The adult son gets kicked out of school for his bizzare behavior. Continuing to be irrational, he blames society as a whole for his plight. He then takes a gun, and almost kills his congresswoman Gabby Giffords, kills and wounds several others in one day.

    Had this person been able to get universal healthcare coverage, killed by your friendly neighborhood teabagger congress, Jared Loughner may have still been taking his medication for schizophrenia. Had Jared at least been able to stay on his parents healthcare coverage until he was 26, he may have successfully finished community college and been able to get work and healthcare coverage for himself. Had the democrats in congress had their way dating back before the first days of Ted Kennedy being in the senate, mental healthcare access would have been strenthened for all...

    But if we listen to this 21 year old who 'gets it'.....Jared murdering people as a result of being off medicine for his schizophrenia is exactly what you get when people are 'on their own'. Not everyone has rich parents to provide for them. So....we pay higher taxes in order for the 'least among us' to have access to social programs that can help them get on their feet. So....if Jared got the help that he needed, we would see less massacres happening because poor people fell through the cracks of society.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlett View Post
    She's not a little girl, she's 21 (legal adult) and seems highly educated.

    There are always jobs out there, people just may not want to do them (i.e. food service, retail, picking up trash). I can understand why those jobs could be seen as unpopular, but saying that there are no jobs is a lie.
    Her age might be 21 but her viewpoint is that of a privileged 14yo. If you really, really want Americans to take "immigrant jobs", then totally close off the border and seal it tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireweaver View Post
    Her age might be 21 but her viewpoint is that of a privileged 14yo. If you really, really want Americans to take "immigrant jobs", then totally close off the border and seal it tight.
    Immigrant jobs? Are you implying that only immigrants (legal or illegal) are qualified for these jobs? Statements like that seem insulting to immigrants and natural born citizens alike. High school students get their first jobs through those 'immigrant jobs' that I just mentioned. It's work, and there is no reason to place a derogatory label on it. America needs people to do food service, retail, and yes even trash pick up. The people working at these lower income jobs are trying to make a living and many may not appreciate paying high taxes (some of which goes to able bodied people who actively choose to not work or look for employment. I choose to believe that the number is bigger than Govt. would lead you to believe).

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    I wanted to add....

    The Texan that wrote the article did not mention those who are physically or mentally unable to work (those on disability). Her plan was referring to able-bodied Americans that have given up the job search and decided to look to welfare (or something like it) for assistance - at least that's how I see it. I am sure there will be those that disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlett View Post
    Immigrant jobs? Are you implying that only immigrants (legal or illegal) are qualified for these jobs?
    WTF??? These are the jobs you see immigrants doing all the time. That is not a judgment, it is an observation.

    Statements like that seem insulting to immigrants and natural born citizens alike. High school students get their first jobs through those 'immigrant jobs' that I just mentioned.
    Believe what you want.

    It's work, and there is no reason to place a derogatory label on it. America needs people to do food service, retail, and yes even trash pick up.
    Did I ever say different? Just to put this in perspective, I've picked up trash, flipped burgers, sold crap in stores, and even cleaned out septic tanks. Not to mention several other no-future jobs. And hated every single one of them.

    The people working at these lower income jobs are trying to make a living and many may not appreciate paying high taxes (some of which goes to able bodied people who actively choose to not work or look for employment. I choose to believe that the number is bigger than Govt. would lead you to believe).
    I still don't think the slough-offs are as numerous as you think. I think its time to do some digging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireweaver View Post
    WTF??? These are the jobs you see immigrants doing all the time. That is not a judgment, it is an observation.


    Did I ever say different? Just to put this in perspective, I've picked up trash, flipped burgers, sold crap in stores, and even cleaned out septic tanks. Not to mention several other no-future jobs. And hated every single one of them.

    I still don't think the slough-offs are as numerous as you think. I think its time to do some digging.
    People from all walks of life do entry level jobs like the ones mentioned above. Young, old, white, black, etc. I wouldn't call them 'immigrant jobs' based on that.

    I did food service for a summer and hated it. It pushed me to work harder in school to get my degree. I now have a degree and am working at a slightly above minimum wage job. I work hard for the money that I earn and I would prefer to keep as much of it as possible for myself rather than pay for able-bodied individuals who refuse to work.

    Personally, I'd be taxing the rich to pay for things like Medicad/Medicare, Social Security, etc. I do not like seeing a large chunk of my $$$ paying for things such as 'welfare'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlett View Post
    People from all walks of life do entry level jobs like the ones mentioned above. Young, old, white, black, etc. I wouldn't call them 'immigrant jobs' based on that.

    I did food service for a summer and hated it. It pushed me to work harder in school to get my degree. I now have a degree and am working at a slightly above minimum wage job. I work hard for the money that I earn and I would prefer to keep as much of it as possible for myself rather than pay for able-bodied individuals who refuse to work.

    Personally, I'd be taxing the rich to pay for things like Medicaid/Medicare, Social Security, etc. I do not like seeing a large chunk of my $$$ paying for things such as 'welfare'.
    OK - I'll go with taxing the rich, they actually are the ones who need to pay their fair share. Compared to what those people get away with, welfare cheats are small potatoes.

    There are commonsense ideas out there, but common sense has gotten itself bulldozed under politics and greed. Until the politics and greed thing is fixed (can it ever be?), we'll be going though the same old crap 1000 years from now (if we survive as a species).

    I think this subject is burning out; I suggest that we work first on the things we can agree on and then, and only then, we can thrash out our differences at a later time.

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    She sounds like a pampered, snot nosed little kid that has yet to turn off Fox News and step out into reality. Yeah, treat the poor like criminals. Accuse them of making "bad choices" without knowing a damn thing about them or their circumstances. And then take away their right to vote on top of everything else? Why, because they're on hard times, can't find a job, or are possibly disabled? What does that have to do with voting? This is such typical right wing bullshit. These bastards live to dehumanize people less fortunate than they are, while being the first to support low taxes for the rich. Hell, they'll even bail them out when they fall on hard times, and with no strings attached. Double standard much?

    The right wingers need to get away from this idea that only able bodied people are on welfare. That's simply not the case. It exists for the people that can't make ends meet with their current job, people that face layoffs and have a hard time finding a job, and especially for people who are physically or mentally unable to work. Should people be made to feel less than human because of circumstances beyond their control? I don't think so. Sometimes, shit happens that goes beyond the simplistic viewpoint of "so and so made bad choices."

    That said, the funniest part of the article is when she said welfare recipients would be required to work at any job the government gave them. Haha, isn't that communism? I thought that was one of those things the right wingers hated so much. The truth is, things would be better if the government offered jobs to people who couldn't find work anywhere else. Republicans see the right to work as a privledge, yet they look down on people who are unable to find any. You can't have it both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonya in Tx View Post
    Folks like the 21 year old usially come from families that have had good fortune and could pass that on to their kids.

    This is many times true Sonya, they also don't see much of their father (or both parents) during the week, because the parents are WORKING VERY HARD to have the big house, nice cars, etc.

    Lets not overlook that.

    There are also some families who have inherited $$ for generations, and have never really had to work.

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    My mother and her boyfriend both WORKED VERY HARD, and we still lived modestly. Old house, used cars, 19 inch tv, etc. I'm not saying anything is wrong with that, but it does go to show how you can devote yourself to work and have little to show for it. I agree with Garrison; the American dream is a lie. Unless you have the mind of a Bill Gates or come from old money and can afford a top rate education, the odds of making it big just aren't very likely. Then again, we all measure success differently.
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    The America dream has been a lie for the last 30 years, at least. Because the only real handouts have been to the rich and the superrich.

    There's your class warfare and redistribution of wealth: the raiding of the Treasury by corporate America of the tax dollars the middle class placed there.

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    Unless you have the mind of a Bill Gates or come from old money and can afford a top rate education, the odds of making it big just aren't very likely.
    Although to Gates' credit, he's totally for the taxing of the wealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snarkygoddess! View Post
    The America dream has been a lie for the last 30 years, at least. Because the only real handouts have been to the rich and the superrich.

    There's your class warfare and redistribution of wealth: the raiding of the Treasury by corporate America of the tax dollars the middle class placed there.

    Although to Gates' credit, he's totally for the taxing of the wealthy.
    Now that is a surprise. But then again, he created a very successful multi-billion dollar corporation and has devoted himself to philanthropy. I'm not a Gates fan, not when he sells software that breaks every time you turn it on; he also has a history of corporate dirty tricks to account for.

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