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[The Lovely Sue Ellen]

And i'm here! I would have responded this morning but Our Internet was down before i left for work.

ok To Answer my own Question first. I think Tom should have called it quits before making the Kids come to work. I mean i think it was ok to have Porter and Preston be there. But Parker and Penny were still to young. Also he fired everyone so it was just himself, Lynette and the kids and i dont think that was right.

Bree and Peter (The AA sponsor)
I dont think this was a very good pairing. I really believe that Bree just switched her addiction from Wine to Peter. I was honestly glad when Andrew Did what he did because it got rid of Peter. No Chemistry there.

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Favorite Katherine Mayfair Moment

[Breelicious]

Ooooh! Very difficult!

I loved her acting in the croquembouche scene even if Marcia totally owned it. "My wrist is realllly throbbing".

Also the scene in the last episode in which she tells Bree the whole Dylan/Wayne story.

Another one is when she snips a thread off Bree's skirt with mini scissors and tells her: "Now you're perfect!"

I remembered a costume for Bree - the witch. Perfect. Just give her the broom.

[Scarlett]

Peter was just dull, no spark...and he was no good for Bree. I think he even knew this and didn't care enough to convince her of it.

Favorite moment for Lady Mayfair

Her heart to heart with Bree at the Founders Day Ball; Katherine was so vulnerable, so honest and real. The whole conversation added layers for Katherine (and Bree too.)

New question: Thoughts on Deidre's sister (we met her in S1).

[The Lovely Sue Ellen]

I honestly dont know if i can pick one Favorite moment with Katherine. I love all of the moments you have both mentioned and I am going to add.

When Orson wants to join the company and she talks with Bree and tells her she is going to cut her! Love that scene.

Also LOVE the "Dream" About Robin that is one of my fav moments for season 6

and one off my all time fav scenes
Robin:Are you gay or are you straight?
Katherine: I dont know! Just because I enjoy having sex with you doesn't mean im a lesbian!!

The Sister....I thought she was annoying, but then i really thought she pulled a 180 when she told Susan the truth about Mike. I actually liked her for that.

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I dont know if we have had this one yet. Favorite Bree/Rex/George Moment

[Breelicious]

Also LOVE the "Dream" About Robin that is one of my fav moments for season 6

Oh yes, the dream scene is awesome! How could I have forgotten that scene!

Deirdre's sister - I must admit I wasn't fascinated by that plot that much because it involved Susan who is not that interesting to me, or at least she wasn't at first.
I thought she was ok. She knew she had to keep it a secret from Susan, but - she was upset when her father refused to tell Susan the truth and kudos to her for telling Susan.

As for RBG scene, I suppose you have all three of them in one scene in mind, right? It has to be the scene in which George comes to pick up Bree for a date (she's wearing a gorgeous red dress and has the most amazing hairstyle) - I've just mentioned this scene in the ABC game.

New question - In which state do the housewives live?

[Scarlett]

Breelicious I your question - I will answer it first.

I always say California - West Coast, sunny, bright, close to major cities. The show doesn't have the East Coast feel to me, and not too many shows seem to be set in 'flyover states' so Cali gets my vote.

Deidre's sister Kendra (now I remember her name)

Really liked the friction in S1 surrounding her visiting Mike, Mike not telling Susan who she is. Susan thought she was competition - ha, hardly. All in all, a very useful character (she gave Susan the straight poop - very important).

Best Bree/George/Rex moment. Breelicious' scene gets the honorable mention for me, but top marks go to Carlos' goodbye party and the pool shoving - sending Bree and George sailing into the Solis pool. Sooooo funny - one of my favorite scenes ever.

My new question:

Tom's midlife crisis: realistic or not. I did a lot of S5 today.

[The Lovely Sue Ellen]

I also love your question! I never really thought about it, I mean I have wondered but never really decided on anyone place. I think i am going to agree with Scarlett and say California. Honestly though thats a good question.

You both picked the 2 scenes I had in mind when i asked the question . They are my Favorite Bree/George/Rex moments. Both of them were Very funny to me and I loved the interaction between the three of them.

I think that Tom's Mid life Crisis was realistic. I mean not that i would know from real life or anything, but he seemed to just act like most men do when they reach that age.

New Question.
Favorite Moment of the Season 4 Halloween Episode?

[Breelicious]

There is a great scene with RGB somewhere out, when Bree decides to go with George to a flower display or fair or something

The whole series has the Californian feel for sure! We never see the snow of the East coast in Christmas episodes, and the rain fell only once or twice? However, they often mention New York, and I suppose the original idea was to set Fairview near NY. The state they live in is completely imaginary! Look at the picture and you'll see it's Eagle State!



Tom's midlife crisis... it is realistic. Tom was a guy who played the tuba in high school and it is often implied he wasn't among hot guys so he wants to relive it now. Lynette is smart to let him do it, but for the family it is better to have somebody to control it. Tom has had pretty good ideas to go through the crisis, like a family restaurant, a rock and roll band (a guy should have a hobby, why not), but also some crazy and risky ones, like selling the restaurant and travelling the state.

I am into S5 a lot too, just watching a rerun!

Favourite moment - Danielle - Karen - Bree: "Oh, I get it. She is you. And she is doing a great job" (or something like that).
The funniest moment must have been Orson's rum punches!

New question: Was Andrew really responsible for Mama Solis' death? (not an accident but death)

[Scarlett]

Excellent Detective Work Breelicious.

Tom's mid-life crisis: I found it unrealistic (sorry). I think the whole crisis started when Tom wanted to open the restaurant rather than keep advertising. In S5 Tom is a whiny pain - I just saw the eppy where he slams one of the twins against the wall of Scavos for refusing to serve high schoolers. Whole story line was a turn off for me, made Tom seem even weaker and immature than he was intended to be.

Favorite part of Halloween eppy: Adam dressed as Frankenstein scaring the Scavo clan who saw a baby come out of Danielle.

Andrew being responsible for the death of dear mamma Solis: Yes!

He was responsible for leaving her in a coma state for so long. Also, if the Van de Kamps had owned up and helped pay for Mama's hospital bills, she could have landed in a better facility (Carlos and Gaby were on hard times, and the staff wasn't the most competent - which is why she fell).

My question:

S5, Tom confronts Dave over framing Porter, but doesn't seem to tell the other men (ex. Mike still goes camping with him). Why didn't Tom tell the Lane what Dave did in an effort to clear Porter's name and ice Dave out of the hood?

[The Lovely Sue Ellen]

I like that the state is imaginary, its like they want you to believe that Fairview could be anywhere. I think thats better than some of the shows where you know where they are.
I honestly dont have one favorite part of the Halloween episode. I love the entire thing.
LOVE that Bree had Andrew dress up as Cher! Love Danielle dressing up as Bree!!! Orson being drunk, Adam Knowing that Bree was faking the pregnancy. Danielle having the baby and scaring the Scavo children. All Brilliant.

Was Andrew To Blame for Mama Solis. Yes and No. Yes it was his fault for the Hit and Run. But no he was not really responsible for her death. That was the hospitals fault. They were clearly not doing their jobs. if they had been she wouldnt have gotten so far from her room or fallen down the stairs.

Scarlett, I honestly dont know why Tom didnt tell everyone about Dave. It really seems like something that he should have mentioned. Maybe its because he was mad because people seemed to act like they believed that Porter set the fire.

My Question is.
Both Marcia and Doug are from Melrose Place. If one of the other Cast members could have been a guest star on DH who would you pick...and would they have a storyline with Marcia/Bree or Doug/Tom?

[Breelicious]

S5 Tom is a whiny pain - I just saw the eppy where he slams one of the twins against the wall of Scavos for refusing to serve high schoolers.

That was really stupid of him. Anyone else could have done that but the twins, there was not such a big deal, (whereas it was a huge deal to them) and he made it one. I didn't like that scene either, and Lynette was great there.

He was responsible for leaving her in a coma state for so long. Also, if the Van de Kamps had owned up and helped pay for Mama's hospital bills, she could have landed in a better facility (Carlos and Gaby were on hard times, and the staff wasn't the most competent - which is why she fell).

Oh, he was responsible for leaving her in a coma for sure, but she didn't die then. She woke up and the rest we know. Yes, Van de Kamps could have offered help, though. However, nobody but the incompetent or better-said negligent staff knew that, not even Gaby or Carlos were informed fully. At the time, Gaby couldn't care less as long as she had died, taking Gaby's adultery secret to grave, and nobody raised the question of the negligent hospital. I'd hoped that that storyline would pop up in Season 8 and thus exonerate Andrew for killing her.

I've often wondered why these people don't talk more, like in the case of Mike-Katherine-Susan and the alimony question in case of Susan's marriage to Jackson.
In real life, many situations would have been solved because people talk. Not in DH, however. I have absolutely no idea why Tom kept this to himself.
I'm just watching the episode in which Dave comes into Tom's garage after he has sold Foxy, his red convertible.

I would clearly choose Marcia. I wouldn't mind seeing Dr. Burns in DH.
Your question got me thinking - I found it funny how Dr. Mancini and Dr. Van de Kamp have some similarity. Rex wasn't as devious as Michael, but their characters kind of match.
Let's not forget that we actually had the situation with Marcia and Brian Austen Green as Keith!

Can you imagine Thomas Calabro instead of Steven Culp? Hey, that could be my next question!

[Scarlett]

the new questions.

Tom not talking about Dave = possible laziness on Cherry's part. Plus, the second half of the season involved Dave attempting to extract revenge on Mike and Susan for Lyla and Paige's death. Tom talking would have killed the story arc as Mike would have nothing to do with Dave.

To answer Lovely's question: The MP vet I would have most liked to see on the show is Thomas C - who I thought had great chemistry with Marcia (so I would have paired them together in some way). This is spooky but early in the show, after Rex died, I imagined TC somehow coming on the show as a new love interest for Bree (as a different character of course - not a Mancini). But then we got Kyle M's Orson, and that worked till he became a klepto.

Could I imagine TC instead of SC as Bree's first husband? I would say no (first instinct), since Brex is one of my most favorite couples on the show.

My new question is:

If the ladies of the Lane had gone on a road trip, where would they go and why?

[The Lovely Sue Ellen]

Glad you both liked the new Question.
We all three agree on this one. If i could have someone else from MP it would be Thomas. I really love the Chemistry he and Marcia shared. And It would have been really interesting to see him come on as a love interst for Bree. Maybe he could have even played a DR..

Thomas instead of Steven?
Nah, i really love Steven Culp as Rex. I honestly think he plays the character perfectly. I think its interesting That Scarlett actually thought about them bringing on TC after they killed off Rex.

The Ladies did take a road trip....Unless you dont want to Count the trip with Edie's ashes. Speaking of that episode i love when they get back and they are all passed out so Lynette Honks the horn! So Funny! Anyways back on Topic.

Maybe the could go to Vegas! Since they all play poker. That could have been an interesting trip.

New Question.
Favorite Death?
There has to be At least one Death that you were happy about.

[Breelicious]

I could see TC instead of SC. It would have been amazing! Rex and Bree are my second and ocassionally first pairing, the absolute favourite Orson and Bree. Personality-wise, they are like a house on fire. Great pity they destroyed Orson's character completely.

A road trip. I'd like to see them in a Blair Witch Project type of situation. They would go camping in the woods, to shoot a movie.

There are two deaths I thought were .. a getaway. Nora, who was really a major pain, but the one I was really glad about was Victor Lang. I just couldn't see any other way for Gaby and Carlos to solve the problem without running away.

Which is your favourite subplot?

[Scarlett]

I totally forgot about the road trip for Edie's ashes. If they were to go on another one, I would say somewhere glamorous - like a big city outside of Fairview, where the ladies could find even more drama-rama.

Favorite death: Edie Brit I would have loved it if she had died in S1 (it was strongly hinted at in the promos, but that should have been a give away that it wasn't here - it was Martha Huber instead), and I thought her suicide attempt in S3 would have been the perfect way for her to just leave -while still causing drama. The S4 ousting was nice, all of the ladies sticking up for Bree - but it didn't last...five years later she came back...only to get electrocuted.

Favorite subplot: Lynette's cancer was dramatic and comedic at the same time. It made Lynette and Tom even stronger as a super-couple. So though it's a sad story line, it's one of my favorites.

My question: Should Gaby have miscarried the baby in S2?

[Breelicious]

Favourite subplot: Monique Polier, and especially the roles of Gloria and Alma Hodge in the story. The introduction of Orson - very creepy. Kyle did a great acting job to rise the suspense, with all those facial expressions. The flashbacks telling the whole story were masterful - especially when Gloria falls into the grave, and when Orson discovers his father in the bathtub. Did Orson start dating Bree because he really fell in love with her, or because he needed to be near Mike and monitor the whole situation or was it a bit of both?

Gaby should have miscarried. It was not clear who the father is, she was furious when she found out she was pregnant and Carlos had tampered with her pills (and the whole scene by the pool was hilarious, like Carlos's reaction to her pregnancy). It was better for the plot.

New question:

Again deaths. I remembered one death that was rather sudden. Which one is the most sudden/unexpected and/or spectacular?

[The Lovely Sue Ellen]

My Favorite Death was Felicia Tilman. She is seriously one of my least favorite characters and I was so happy when she was killed in that head on collison! It was like FINALLY no more wacko!!! True she added alot to the show, but after the antifreeze IV i was ready for her to be gone.

I LOVE Both Sub plots that you guys mentioned. They are both awesome. Mine is actually Katherine having her nervous breakdown/falling for Robin. I thought it was really interesting to watch this strong woman just break down and lose everything and even her friends...."Bree" Didnt realize just how far gone she really was! And Then Enter Robin. And well you both already know how much i adore that storyline.


Should Gaby have miscarried in season 2?
I think it was really great Drama. It was perfect timing as well because she was all about not wanting the baby and then the moment she changes her mind she loses the baby. So for Dramatic reasons i say yes.

For me the Most unexpected Death was Nora. I actually gasped when she was shot. Was not expecting that at all!

New Question.
Which was a sadder more dramatic scene.
Gaby losing Baby Lily or Losing Grace?

[Breelicious]

Sudden and/or spectacular death. Sudden - it was Alejandro, actually. Who would have thought Carlos would whack him with the candlestick and kill him??!
The most spectacular one was definitely Felicia Tillman - the story was over and everybody thought she would get away with it but no - the truck has brought her to justice.

It was quite dramatic watching her cry outloud after they had taken Lilly. However, the sadder scene was when she had to say goodbye to Grace, knowing she would never see her again. It was really heartbreaking, and Eva did a great job there.

New question:

When she met Sam, Bree once talked about Rex as noble and dignified. Was he really that way?

[Scarlett]

I wish Gaby hadn't of miscarried; we were in the second year of spoiled rich Gaby - it would have been nice to see her attempt to change her ways for a baby Solis. The fact that we didn't know who the father was added intrigue to the story line.

Death that was sudden/unexpected and/or spectacular?

George's death in S2 - death by Bree when she didn't alert anyone to his overdose. I didn't think Bree would go through with it, and there was some poetic justice in the scene: the pharmacist who tampered with pills was killed by pills - aided by the woman who he loved.

Gaby losing baby Lily was more poignant for me. We saw her bond with the baby, we heard her fight and cry to keep the baby - only to lose her to the birth mother. With Grace, I knew that Gaby was the biological mother but the way that Gaby pushed Juanita aside - pushed Carlos' wishes aside made me see the selfish in Gaby. She was willing to risk the family she had to keep the child that was born from her, but not truly hers.

New question: Were the ladies overreacting by icing out Edie in S4 finale?

[The Lovely Sue Ellen]

I agree with Scarlett on this one.
Baby Lily touched me more. Dont get me wrong, losing Grace was very sad. But i actually cried when Gaby lost baby Lily. The scene is truly heartbreaking. With Grace I knew it was coming. Plus Gaby had been so selfish and had even tried to have Carmen sent away so she could keep Grace.

New question:

When she met Sam, Bree once talked about Rex as noble and dignified. Was he really that way?

I think Rex was a wonderful man, however i dont think he was as noble and dignified as Bree Told Sam. When someone dies we tend to Remember the good things about them and sort of erase the bad. And there are some things about Rex that were not the greatest. Is it just me or in flashbacks is he really mean to Bree? like with her cookbook and in season 8 where we she her put on her "mask"

New question: Were the ladies overreacting by icing out Edie in S4 finale?

Not at all! I honestly LOVE that scene. And i really Think Edie deserved it after what she attempted with Bree.
She really didnt think that the ladies were as close as they were...other wise i dont think she would have attempted this.


New Question.
The Girls teasing Gaby about her nose job....Funny or mean?