Dallas leading to a return to Denver?

**grant jennings** · 06-19-2012, 04:11 AM

Opening scene from the new series:

The limousine pulls into the courtyard in front of the Carrington Mansion. Cut to the library, Krystle, dressed for a funeral, is seated at the desk, Gerard enters from the door leading to the hallway. Gerard: "Mrs. Carrington, Eric has brought the car around." Krystle, rising from her chair: "Thank you, Gerard." Krystle takes a sip of her coffee and puts the cup down. Cut back to the courtyard; Krystina is already outside when Krystle exits through the front door. Eric opens the door of the limo for Krystle and then he opens the opposite door for Krystina. Krystle and Krystina exchange soulful looks and hold hands but say nothing. Closeup of the gate to the estate with the initials "B.C." above it as the limo leaves the estate.

**alexis** · 06-22-2012, 11:15 PM

If it does come back, I hope they take a leaf out of ABC's Revenge. A mystery running through the season. Kind of like DYNASTY season 9 too. With lots of good soapy episode cliffhangers. I love how on Revenge it really looks and feels like rich people. I mean they are always dressed beautifully, the sets are pretty fantastic and although it can be very OTT it keeps you watching because everything is happening for a reason and you get pay offs in the cliffhanger resolutions.

It's a great soap and it seems to be doing kind of what DYNASTY was trying to do but always failed at. It's a show about people being ruined and destroyed. How many people on DYNASTY did that ever happen to? Even though those threats were uttered so many times. Revenge carries through. I hope a new DYNASTY goes down that route.
Yes Revenge can be OTT and camp and even implausible, but theres a thread that runs through it that keeps everything together and keeps you watching. It reminds me a lot of DYNASTY season 2 and 9 maybe even 3 aswell.

Has anyone else been watching? Noticed this?

**SnarkyOracle!** · 06-23-2012, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by alexis

Yes Revenge can be OTT and camp and even implausible, but theres a thread that runs through it that keeps everything together and keeps you watching. It reminds me a lot of DYNASTY season 2 and 9

I haven't seen REVENGE, but you describe that well --- maybe I'll give it a shot. Previously, I was turned off by the too literal title "Revenge".

**alexis** · 06-23-2012, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Snarkygoddess!

I haven't seen REVENGE, but you describe that well --- maybe I'll give it a shot. Previously, I was turned off by the too literal title "Revenge".

I too was put off by the title initially, and I read up a little on it and wasn't sold on it because it starred Emily Van Camp. I could only imagine her as her character on Brothers & Sisters. I was also put off by hearing it was kind of an action show. But a few good friends who know what I like said that they thought I would really love it. I didn't think the pilot was that amazing but it really picks up. After episode 5, I was addicted. You do have to suspend your desbelief a little but I'm fine with that.

It is not a dramedy and is the closest thing to a real good old fashioned prime time soap that I have ever seen. There seem to be little soap clues all over it. Victoria Grayson is a mash up of Victoria Principal and Pamela Grayson. Theres the Southfork Inn and Southfork hospital. William Devane has been on it and has been great. And last night I watched a scene where Victoria was doing the seating plan for a party and asked her husband if he would like to sit beside the Paulsens. I am sure there are probably more that I have not noticed.

**Jason!** · 06-23-2012, 02:14 PM

I think the best resource for anyone even remotely considering a Dynasty sequel is Dynasty itself. Hindsight is always 20/20. Look at what worked with the series, what didn't. But be honest about an assessment. Dynasty had potential; Dynasty has potential. Mostly Dynasty was failed opportunities. Unless one goes into a project with an honest objective, it will be a standard Aaron Spelling spoof.

**alexis** · 06-23-2012, 02:31 PM

I pray to God that the people who worked on the original show can look at it and know what failed and why. I hope the cast, the Shapiro's and whoever is producing want to better the mess the created before. The thing it needs is a strong central thread that holds the season together, and that has to be repeated in each season after. Well mapped out and very well planned seasons. It was the unplanned, badly written chaos that pulled DYNASTY under. It needs to be smart, sharp, have a real bite in the dialogue. Like the first season. And if they dangle something like the ruination of a character or a modavia type cliffhanger there has to be pay off.

Maybe the best thing that could happen to a new DYNASTY is not having Spelling attacthed to it. Thats a good thing in my opinion.
The bad thing is I don't see cable being able to invest the money in it to make it look like DYNASTY. I was very disapointed in Dallas and how it looked. Not the cinematography exactly as the shots outside and around Southfork are great. It's the sets, lighting and editing that aren't always great. Who is going to be able to recreate FilOLi now in a realistic way? Only a major network could do it I think, in terms of money.

And yes I agree that the first resource for anyone wanting to bring back DYNASTY is DYNASTY itself. It's just Revenge reminds me of DYNASTY at times.

**brooked** · 06-23-2012, 03:50 PM

Jack Coleman has confirmed he would be open to a new Dynasty, under the right circumstances. I sincerely hope if Dynasty were to return, it would be Al Corley in the Steven role, but anyway...

From the Monte Carlo TV festival:

Interviewer: You played Steven Carrington in Dynasty, is that a role that’s still following you around?
Coleman: Um, I, yes, and especially last night when I had dinner with Joan Collins. My old television mom – I don’t mean my “old” television mom, I mean my *former* television mom. She’d hit me in the face if she heard me call her that. But it was so lovely to see her, she spends a lot of time in the south of France so we had dinner last night and reminisced about the old days.
Interviewer: And do you see your old colleagues often?
Coleman: You know, I don’t see them often, but I do stay in touch from time to time with John James, Pamela Bellwood and Pamela Sue Martin and Gordon Thomson from time to time, not all the time. Cause this is, this is Europe… if you’re talking to your audience now, they’ll be at least 45 years old or they’ll have no idea what you’re talking about.
Interviewer: What memories do you keep of those days filming Dynasty?
Coelman: Well, I learned how to act on film during Dynasty, and John Forsythe was kind of a personal coach for me because I was very young, I was in my early twenties and he was of course by then already very successful veteran actor and he was so sweet and so kind to me and he really showed me how to act. I remember him putting tape on the floor and like “hit your mark” and I’d didn’t know [what a mark was], so I had to learn and John was a lovely teacher.
Interviewer: Dallas is making its big coming back this summer on the TNT, if they did the that, would you like to be a part of it? Would you enjoy that?
Coleman: You mean a follow-up to Dynasty?
Interviewer: Yeah.
Coleman: Um… if the circumstances were right, I would. I would have to know that it was going to be done well and that the plot would have to be good… it’s good that it’s on cable, I think cable is where the show would have to be, because they’re a little racier, there’s a little bit more room to… um, for language, for content, and I think for shows like this to reinvent themselves, it cannot just be what they were 25 years ago, it has to really be new, different, even if a lot of the people are the same, if the characters are the same, the show has to feel [new]. So I think that cable would be a place to look.

Transcribed by a JC fan for his fan blog http://jackcolemanfansite.com/?p=239

**alexis** · 06-23-2012, 04:20 PM

As much as I love Al Corley I bet they would go with Coleman as Steven. God why was the show so messy!

**Jason!** · 06-23-2012, 07:48 PM

Coleman never had a feel for who the character was all about. He obviously doesn't know how most fans feel about this tenure with the series. He was absolutely wooden in this performances which -- although they take place at the height of Dynasty's onair popularity -- take place during the show's worst written and executed era. If he had garbage to work with and failed, he'd never be able to make it with something more sincere. I've never been a fan of Coleman. He just never conveyed any since of ... well, anything!

If there is ever to be a sequel, here's hoping TPTB have enough sense to re-install Al Corley. (BTW, it's a bit funny when one sees the former cast together, it's always Thomson, Martin and Corley. Coleman's quite until a sequel is mentioned and when asked about it he has to throw Joanie's name around.)

**willie oleson** · 06-23-2012, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by alexis

If it does come back, I hope they take a leaf out of ABC's Revenge. A mystery running through the season. Kind of like DYNASTY season 9 too.

And Desperate Housewives and True Blood.
It doesn't always have to be a murder or treasure mystery.
But I think it's more interesting to have one Main Plotline for each season - like a chapter.
Resulting in multi-sub-plots because it will affect each character differently.

There are many comments about Dynasty's season 7 on this forum and IMO it wasn't that awful.
It was just too random: a little bit of this, and then some of that.
There wasn't anything that held it all together.
Even Falcon Crest had core storylines in its last seasons.
The trick is to keep it interesting for an entire season, and let's not forget that in those days we had 25+ episodes seasons.
It's much easier to keep the pace going in a 12 episodes season, like most of the HBO stuff.
!

**SnarkyOracle!** · 06-25-2012, 08:40 PM

Good news! Below is a shot of Joan Collins revisiting the FiLoli estate a few months ago with David Paulsen in anticipation of the new series:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u69zmwaZ7-...0101204_62.JPG

**Matt5** · 06-25-2012, 09:57 PM

ha ha very good

**Jason!** · 06-26-2012, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Snarkygoddess!

Good news! Below is a shot of Joan Collins revisiting the FiLoli estate a few months ago with David Paulsen in anticipation of the new series:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u69zmwaZ7-...0101204_62.JPG

Was that my birthday present?

**SnarkyOracle!** · 06-26-2012, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Jason!

Was that my birthday present?

Yes!

**alexis** · 06-26-2012, 12:48 AM

I was so excited.

**SnarkyOracle!** · 06-26-2012, 12:59 AM

The house is so cozy looking in the autumn!

**alexis** · 06-26-2012, 01:18 AM

I hate that they never varied the establishing shots. It was always the same ones over and over. And they were so dull and lifeless. I mean an establishing shot from the angle of the pic you just posted would have been great. Made the mansion feel more real. I love the camera angles in season 9 shot inside the mansion. I wish they had have done things like that through out the run. And changed up the establishing shots.

**SnarkyOracle!** · 06-26-2012, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by alexis

I hate that they never varied the establishing shots. It was always the same ones over and over. And they were so dull and lifeless. I mean an establishing shot from the angle of the pic you just posted would have been great. Made the mansion feel more real. I love the camera angles in season 9 shot inside the mansion. I wish they had have done things like that through out the run. And changed up the establishing shots.

Well, hopefully they've got a second unit crew out there now getting all the shots they need -- and then digitally add in a Rocky mountain or two to the left of the house, just for locational effect.

As long as the Pollocks are kept a thousand miles away from a new series, it'll all be fine.

Ideally, the Shapiros will work with Paulsen,

**alexis** · 06-26-2012, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Snarkygoddess!

Well, hopefully they've got a second unit crew out there now getting all the shots they need -- and then digitally add in a Rocky mountain or two to the left of the house, just for locational effect.

As long as the Pollocks are kept a thousand miles away from a new series, it'll all be fine.

Ideally, the Shapiros will work with Paulsen,

I pray!

**brooked** · 06-29-2012, 03:35 PM

Take this one with a grain of salt — make that a whole shaker! The National Enquirer is reporting that, on the heels of the success of TNT's Dallas reboot, there are now talks of doing one for classic, 80's sudser Dynasty! Said veteran Enquirer gossip hound Mike Walker:

TV moguls are already huddled in top-secret talks with tempestuous Denver oil “Dynasty” divas JOAN COLLINS and LINDA EVANS – begging them to get glam again in those magnificent, iconic costumes and scratch each other’s eyes out encore!

Said My Dyna-Spy: “Joan and Linda are really excited about reviving ‘Dynasty.’ The show looks like a definite go as producers work out the details!”

Wouldn't it be awesome to see Krystal (Linda Evans), Fallon (preferrably Pamela Sue Martin), Sammy Jo (Heather Locklear) and of course, Alexis (Joan Collins) return to TV, complete with a new generation of stars as the offspring of their infamous characters from the mega popular ABC soap?

Hey, if the potential Dynasty 2.0 scribes need any inspiration, they can check out the Wishful Casting I did for Dynasty: The Next Generation last October. Thanks Appleridge for the tip!

http://daytimeconfidential.zap2it.co...on-the-horizon