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    Default Were all deaths neccessary - especially both Gioberti parents

    Do you like the idea of both Giobertis dead and Melissa too?

    It kind of sucks for me terribly to see both Chase+Maggie go without a farewell from their children

    Especially knowing that Maggie never saw Cole after that sailing farewell and Vicki leaving in Peterīs limousine

    When FC came to end with that monologue of Angelaīs, I was kind of sad that -together with Melissa- the authors didnīt have another explanation apart from the death to let a character go - if they wanted it - or the actors

    I would have prefered at least one of them disappear alive, f.e. let Maggie go to Europe or Australia, whatever

    The fact of those 3 deaths, and also that of Maggieīs sister were a bit too much for me

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    The deaths were surprising when they happened, but none of those characters would have left Tuscany Valley alive.
    "She died July 14th, 1989...."

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    Why not?

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    I heartily approve of all those deaths, except Terry's.

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    O yes, the old witch out-lived them all.
    And the nerve to salute them in that finale speech, like dear old friends.
    No wait, what did she usually say?
    "After all, we're family!"
    She should have choked on a grape!

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    I think that (deep down) Angela did love Chase and Maggie....but she WAS right when she warned them that they should leave and never come back - look at where they ended up!
    "She died July 14th, 1989...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJames03 View Post
    [B][CENTER][FONT="Garamond"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Navy"]I think that (deep down) Angela did love Chase and Maggie....
    I don't think so - I also don't think she hated them, but she hated them for taking a piece of her land.

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    Oh, I agree with you about her hating them for taking the land, but I don't think that she would wish a tragic death on them.
    "She died July 14th, 1989...."

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    Unfortunately it felt like there destiny although I think it was a cope out not to atleast have Cole and Vicky their to still lock horns with Angela..

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    No, I did not like it at all that they killed those characters, it was a mistake and killed the show in the end.

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    My guess would have been to let Billy Moses return for season 10 and fight him for Josephīs future due to getting back Chaseīs land and winery

    Cole fighting with Lance would have been a nice fight. Then let Maggie or Chase return for giving Angela the shock of her life and Melissa too.

    In other soaps, Uncle Frank would have sent Melissa to a team of coma doctors and let her rest there for a number of months like everybody does in "Bold & beautiful" and let Ana-Alicia re-unite with Cole+find her peace, or let her find the peace with the returning father Christopher, and let either Maggie or Chase win the final battle but then let them drove off with both Cole, Joseph and the family and let Angela have the bitter win of having lost the last fight but Chase, unwilliging for more fights, just gives away the land and the winery to Angela and demonstrates that thereīs more to peace in someoneīs life than the joy of winning but the joy of living

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    Especially Maggie's death wasn't necessary. She could have left Richard without a word and he could try to find her in season 9 after he got released from prison.

    That would have been much better than marrying the "new Maggie" Lauren!

    And, btw, I never missed Chase when he was gone.

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    Loved Maggie's death most of all. It was wonderfully cruel.

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    Maggies death was brillient TV.Who wrote that episode?

    It was a little bit Sopranoes, just in terms of the shock and nasitness of it.

    Although it didnt pay off on some levels but it was the boldest soap. They had no fear in killing off characters. When Melissa returned as a new character you might assume they would have second throughts killing off anyone else, but Maggie was next in line.

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    Maggie's death wasn't brilliant tv...
    It was one of the worst scenes ever...
    Joel Surnow & Cyrus Nowrasteh are the script writers...

    Take a look at www.falconcrest.org and you will find it out easy...

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    The way they cross cut between Richard on his way to court and Maggie drowning was thrilling. It was so interesting how they played with time in that sequence: in Richard's scenes, she was already dead; in Maggie's scenes, she was struggling to escape, but we already knew it was too late. It evoked a real sense of suffocation, of drowning, I suppose.

    Not to mention all the symbolism: that she had dived to the bottom of the pool to pick up the figures so reminiscent of Richard's toy soldiers; that it was her wedding ring that trapped her at the bottom of the pool; that it all tied in with the death of the falcon at the beginning of the episode.

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    The weirdest deaths are the two kids that drown in Season 1. What was all that about?

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    Blackpyhton your other fav show is probably Santa Barbara if you thought that was rubbish.

    I dont go to that site, I hear you catch 'Wine flu' by logging on.

    Anyway it wasnt the cutting to Richard that made it great TV , it was the absolute simplicity of it. In the middle of the crazy show we had what was relatively a normal death. A simple pool drowning.

    After all those years of Maggie, a dive to pick up a toy soldier resulted in her demise. No assasin, car crash, buring house. Just this lingering death. I hated watching it, it wasnt nice. That horrible feeling of being trapped and knowing the seconds are going by and that you are about to die. How mean.....how brillient.

    I think the person who did that was excellent.

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    Sadly enough, James is still on ignore... so I still can't read his wonderful replies. So sad...

    No, I never watched Santa Barbara. Do you know The Bold and the Beautiful? THAT's my second fav show!

    Ok, you're right in one thing: Maggie drowing in the pool was better than hanging her up in the attic (do you know they wanted to do that?).

    And, you don't catch anything when logging on www.falconcrest.org. It's not like logging on soapchat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James from London View Post
    The way they cross cut between Richard on his way to court and Maggie drowning was thrilling. It was so interesting how they played with time in that sequence: in Richard's scenes, she was already dead
    I agree, IMO the best scene from that season.
    The fact that "we" - and I take the liberty to speak for most Falcon Crest-fans - hated it, was only because it happened to Maggie.
    On the other hand, it would not have been so intense & cruel if the victim was...let's see....Carly Fixx!!
    Still, whether it was a "normal" death or typical FC tragedy, it didn't serve any purpose story-wise.
    If she had gone away to Australia or something, the only consequence would have been the seperation of their children.
    Wait a minute. I don't quite remember what happened to them. Were they still present in season 9? And little Joseph?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPython View Post
    Maggie drowing in the pool was better than hanging her up in the attic (do you know they wanted to do that?)
    Ooh, I didn't know that. How intruiging!
    How about falling through the window of the mansion's tower (murder or suicide)
    Angela: "Why does everything have to happen on my porch?"

    Anyway, I think this was one of those rare occasions where We-The-Fans would have EMBRACED the idea of a dream solution (for 2 seasons, or 3 or 4...)


 

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