Trump's bizarre press conference: 'the news is fake'

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    An amazing moment in history: Donald Trump's press conference
    President Donald Trump launched an extraordinary denunciation Thursday of his critics, complaining he inherited a "mess" and slamming stories that his campaign was constantly in contact with Russia as "fake news."
    • Trump held court during a news conference that lasted an hour and fifteen minutes, carving out a stunning moment in modern American political history. He displayed a sense of anger and grievance rarely vented by a President in public — let alone one who has been in office for just four weeks.
    • "I have never seen more dishonest media, frankly than the political media," Trump said, later slamming leaks to the press from the intelligence community — some of which led to the resignation of national security adviser Michael Flynn.
    • "The leaks are real. The leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake because so much of the news is fake," Trump said.
    • While it was a marked contrast with the normal dynamics of a presidential news conference, the East Room show was vintage Trump. He touted his own poll numbers, victory over Hillary Clinton and discussed cable TV ratings and panel discussions.
    • "I'm here again to take my message straight to the people. As you know, our administration inherited many problems across government and across the economy. To be honest, I inherited a mess. It's a mess. At home and abroad, a mess."
    • That was the kind of message — directed at large numbers of voters disgruntled with the performance of Washington's political establishment and delivered in a plainspoken, unvarnished manner — that helped Trump win the presidency against all odds.
    • But his manner is also likely to offend or alarm other voters and may do little to alleviate skepticism towards Trump among political elites in Washington. Trump in fact predicted how his animated and unorthodox news conference will be interpreted in the press.
    • "Tomorrow, they will say: 'Donald Trump rants and raves at the press,'" Trump said. "I'm not ranting and raving. I'm just telling you. You know, you're dishonest people. But — but I'm not ranting and raving. I love this. I'm having a good time doing it."
    • The general impression was of a president who is deeply frustrated at the way his new White House is being portrayed and who had decided to take matters into his own hands with a dramatic intervention.
    • The news conference was not scheduled until Thursday morning, but aides said Trump was itching to get out and defend himself.
    • A senior administration official told CNN's Jeremy Diamond that Trump walked into the Oval Office this morning and told his top aides: "Let's do a press conference today."
    • The news conference was "the President's idea, 100%" the official said.
    • "I'm here today to update the American people on the incredible progress that has been made in the last four weeks since my inauguration," Trump said, after quickly announcing his new pick for labor secretary, Alexander Acosta.
    • "We have made incredible progress. I don't think there's ever been a president elected who in this short period of time has done what we've done," Trump said.
    • And saying he resented picking up newspapers and turning on the television to hear reports that his White House was in chaos, Trump said, "This administration is running like a fine-tuned machine."
    • Trump's appearance betrayed apparent deep frustration not just with the media coverage of his White House and a desire to talk directly to the American people but also possibly dismay with aides charged with defending him.
    • "I don't mind a bad story if it's true," Trump said, but complained much of what was reported about his administration was unfair.
    • The President lashed out, for instance, at coverage of his temporary travel ban on nationals of seven mostly Muslim nations that caused a weekend of chaos at the nation's airports before being suspended by a federal court.
    • "We had a very smooth roll out of the travel ban. But we had a bad court," Trump said. "We had a bad decision, that is the only thing that is wrong with the travel ban."
    • But the President also said a new executive order would be tailored to the court's ruling to ensure that it could legally go into force.
    • Trump also accused holdovers from the Obama administration of leaking out information about his alleged contacts with Moscow to hammer his administration.
    • Trump was repeatedly pressed on whether his campaign staff had been in contact with Russia, as a widening drama over his alleged connections with Moscow dominates news coverage.
    • "Nobody that I know of. How many times do I have to answer this question? Russia is a ruse. I have nothing to do with Russia. Haven't made a phone call to Russia in years," Trump said.
    • "I own nothing in Russia, I have no loans in Russia, I don't have any deals in Russia," Trump said. "Russia is fake news."
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    “I can tell you, speaking for myself, I own nothing in Russia. I have no loans in Russia. I don't have any deals in Russia.”

    DONALD TRUMP, 2017

    "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets; we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

    DONALD TRUMP JR., 2008
     
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    Trump was again exposed as a liar in the press conference. He said about his victory "I guess it’s the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan" but both Obama victories had bigger electoral college margins, as did Bush in 1988 and Clinton in 1996. No doubt historical reports of those larger victories was just "fake news".

    Well done America, you elected a lying, islamophobic, misogynist, lover-of-watching-whores-urinate-on-each-other, Putin puppet as your President. I hope you're proud of what you did.
     
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    CNN's Jake Tapper to Trump: 'get to work and stop whining'

     
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    Speaking of "fake news" - Bannon, Miller and the gang are getting desperate. Now they've started leaking fake news themselves (see: National Guard as Deportation Force) to bait and discredit the mainstream media and justify their use of the "fake news" label to attack them. Always approach these bastards with caution.

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    That embarrassing presser meltdown will most certainly be a crucial scene in the future KREMLINGATE movie.

    Meanwhile, even FOX News is reporting Trump's approval rating is in the toilet.

    Trump's minions will of course dismiss even FOX News, the GOP establishment and past Republican presidents, all in their unconditional adulation of Cheeto Jesus.

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    I feel like he needs to have a more olive based bronzer. You'd think someone would point that out to him if he's adamant about using it. He looks like his liver is failing.
     
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    I am bitter my favorite (THE BIGGEST LIAR IN PANTSUITS) did not win
     
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    Donald Trump just declared the media an "enemy of the American people"
    President Donald Trump declared the media an "enemy of the American people" in a tweet Friday afternoon, escalating his feud with the press.

    • Trump initially deleted his tweet about the "FAKE NEWS media." 

    • But he later re-sent it with more news organizations included, as well as the removal of the word "SICK!" in all capital letters.
    • "The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!"
    • Without Hillary Clinton, Trump has honed in on the media as his new enemy — taking jabs at the press every chance he can, including in a bizarre and rambling news conference on Thursday.

    • Trump's top strategist, Steve Bannon, a former media CEO himself, has gone as far as to call the media the "opposition party" in an interview with the New York Times.

    • But attacking the entire media as "fake," and labeling it the "enemy of the American people," is a dangerous precedent to set.

    • The Founding Fathers viewed the media as an essential part of government and society — so important that the First Amendment to the Constitution is dedicated to the freedom of the press.

    • That fact did not go unnoticed, with many calling Trump's tweet "disturbing" and "dangerous."

    • "I would hope that our leaders would never believe that any American desires to make another American an enemy," NBC's Chuck Todd tweeted. "Let's dial it back."

    • And while many of Trump's die-hard supporters are quick to celebrate his antagonistic tone, members of his own party appear to be growing tired of Trump's Twitter antics, such as his tweet Friday.
    • Earlier Friday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said he was "not a great fan" of Trump's Twitter account, a sentiment that's been echoed by the public even before Trump took office.
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    Donald Trump is the new Richard Nixon – without the brains
    Like Trump, Nixon blamed the media for most things that went wrong with his political career. The key difference is that Trump doesn't have quite the same political experience as Nixon did.
    • I was bemused watching Donald Trump's first news conference. Where, I wondered, have I heard this sort of thing before?
    • Where before have I come across an American president obsessed to the point of insanity with what the press writes about him and how the TV news reports his actions? A man who is engaged in a war with the media? A president who is obsessed with conspiracies, and with a determination to end the "leaks" that were undermining his authority and, as he sees it, national security?
    • Richard Nixon, the 37th President of the USA. He is compellingly reminiscent of Trump, but with many more redeeming features.
    • Donald Trump denies 'ranting and raving', attacking media, Clinton, Democrats.
    • Nixon too was at war with the media, and made no bones about it. His White House famously had a "master list" of political opponents - including many journalists.
    • Like Trump, Nixon blamed the media for most things that went wrong with his political career. However, maybe Nixon's paranoia did have more grounding in reality than Trump's, or than history has given him credit for. After all, it was journalists Carl Bernstein, Bob Woodward and Ben Bradlee of the Washington Post that brought him down.
    • In a press conference on 26 October 1973, Nixon said of the American press that in all his years in public life, he had never seen such "distorted", "frantic", "hysterical" reporting, which was shaking people's faith in the American system. He had zero respect for the media, and told them so. He appealed directly to the television audience in an infamous quote, to tell them: "People have got to know whether their president's a crook. Well, I'm not a crook."
    • Like Trump, Nixon shared the belief that the likes of the Washington Post and the New York Times were biased and out to "get" him, above all treating him unfairly in the 1960 presidential contest with Jack Kennedy, and his failed comeback in a contest to become Governor of California in 1962.
    • When he lost this vote, conceding defeat, Nixon came down from his hotel room in the early hours, exhausted, over-wrought and wrathful, and gave the gathered representatives of the newspapers both barrels. In a Trump-esque lecture on their failings, he ended with the observation that they would miss the fun they had had at his expense: "You don't have Nixon to kick around anymore, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference."
    • Of course his 1962 outburst was far from his last appearance in the press. Like Trump, Nixon was badly disfigured by an insecurity that, in essence, led to his fall from grace in the Watergate affair. One wonders whether the same will happen to Trump - coupled with an overweening sense of the power of the "imperial presidency" - until the courts, Congress and, yes, the media choose to challenge him on legal, moral and constitutional grounds.
    • Amateur psychology, maybe, but one can easily detect the same sort of inner fragility in Nixon than in the outwardly bombastic and ever-boastful Trump. The current President, too, over-estimates the power of his office (Nixon went so far as to try to develop a doctrine that "if the president does it, it's legal" when he was in power).
    • Why else, other than some deep-seated insecurity, does Trump keep wanting to remind everyone about how he won the campaign, despite the media? Why does he feel the need, long after the campaign proper is over, to carry on appearing at rallies to adoring, chanting crowds? Like his poring over his media coverage, or getting wound up about Alec Baldwin's hilarious renditions of him on Saturday Night Live, President Trump should have better things to do. He seems to be forgetting to get on with his sometimes tedious day job, and, as a result, making the sort of elementary errors that Nixon did, albeit in a different sphere.
    • Nixon was an experienced figure who had met and learned much from most of the world's leaders, from Winston Churchill to the Shah of Iran, before he was elected President, who had served as Vice President, Congressman and Senator, who was a gifted lawyer and debated with Nikita Khrushchev on TV, and had a much surer touch about his cabinet appointments - Henry Kissinger, for example. Trump doesn't have quite the same experience, skill or credentials. Both men would keep a faculty of psychologists busy, but essentially Trump is Nixon without the brains. That's not so smart, as Trump himself might say.
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