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Dallas TNT Review 3.06 - Like Father, Like Son

Discussion in 'Dallas TNT episode review archive' started by Miss_Texas, Mar 31, 2014.

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Rate Season 3, Episode 6 - "Like Father, Like Son"

  1. 1/5 - AWFUL!

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  2. 2/5 - Run of the Mill

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  3. 3/5 - Enjoyable (But nothing to write home about)

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  4. 4/5 - Entertaining (Better than most!)

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  5. 5/5 - FANTASTIC!!

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  1. bamonjasamchairjrprfan

    bamonjasamchairjrprfan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I assumed Bobby wasn't aware of the affiar because the secret would be out by now.
  2. Mrs. John Ross III

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    When does that spoiler happen? I've been dying to see some stuff between those two.

    I think that's why in the ep description for episode 8 it says
    Show Spoiler
    that the exposure of the affair threatens JR3/Pam and Bob/Ann.
    because Bobby doesn't know.
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    Josh really does walk away with the show and has the best part of all the younger cast. No matter what happens he will be fine. I am sure I am not the only one who notices his star power.

    It was great to see John Ross and Sue Ellen together and they were great together, I agree. The sequences of them together drips with the history of the characters. John Ross would have been very aware of his mother's issues at a very young age.

    The only issue I have is the Melrose Place like hooking up that is totally out of control. They are log dogs in heat!
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  4. montyc

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    It was very sad to see Sue Ellen go down the same path again over thirty years later! Of course it's also very realistic. Relapses are common and very few boozers stop cold and never have another drink. It's usually fits and starts.
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    I disagree and especially any characters introduced during the pathetic final years when the show became JR's Discounted Follies. Discounted because they cut the rest of the regulars and the show became an embarrassing, desperate attempt to keep the money maker cranking.

    I would also avoid any more classic characters being introduced. They distract from the focus and rhythm of the show and it needs to let the next generation take root, which is finally happening. It also doesn't help the demo, the key to the show surviving for a fourth series. The nostalgia factor may peak interest but only with 'old fogies'.
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  6. Canyon340

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    It was calculated to make people wince and to suggest both how depraved and sick Emma's obsession with JRIII has become. It accomplished this rather powerfully, I thought.

    To suggest it's 'beneath the show' is to make a value judgement that's altogether different and more difficult for me to understand; especially since many of the things we saw on the old show, and which could be regarded as being much more worthy of moral censure, are routinely celebrated on these boards as good old fashioned soapy fun. I never knew we had so many part-time Puritans among us....
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  7. Pam BE

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    I'm surprised by the morality imposed on the show by some people, I find it hard to equate that thinking with Dallas, the original or any version. In the first batch of episodes we had a 16 year old girl asking a ranchhand to have sex and call her his former girlfriends name. Wasn't exactly the Waltons.

    The same frame of mind that comes into play with John Ross and Emma, this rather odd view that the show should be moral. I think this would have driven me crazy in the 80's if there was a view that JR should be a one woman man and drink coco before bedtime. Ludicrous!

    People have said they want Dallas and at the same time want a version that that is moralistically compliant. I want the exact opposite. When the original went down the PC route it was terrible.
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  8. Kenny Coyote

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    It's not the morality that's the issue. The issue is that original Dallas was something the whole family could watch together. The fact that many immoral things were done by the characters on the show didn't make the show uncomfortable to watch with the family. The John Ross - Emma scene would be uncomfortable to watch with the whole family. Maybe that explains the issue better.
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    My whole thing with John Ross and Emma is what The Show Had to Do to Pamela to even make it work.
    I have Never been a Fan of Having Other Characters be Dumb Down / Hold Back/ Put into a Deep Sleep just so Another Character can Get something over on them . If we were getting the Real Pamela these 6eps would have been better for me to watch But this Pod Pamela they Had out on Dallas Made no sense. Why did they Have to Write her So Out of Character for so long not only that but Cut her Scenes as well ?

    They could Have Wrote Pamela Being really into the Business side and Gave her more Scenes at EG. Gave her Something to do other then Stand there and Look Pretty and Smile a lot.
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    It was a great episode. Linda's acting was again incredible, just as it was back then with Larry she hasn't missed a beat. FYI John Ross's line about her doing it to herself is so reminiscent of JR blaming her when it’s his actions that drove her to drink. This scene reminds me of a great scene in which Miss Ellie rips both Jock and JR to their face.

    “She tells JR and Jock that everything they touch they spoil, relationships, people’s lives. JR, you and your Daddy use people up and just throw them away even members of your own family, you both sicken me".

    For those of you who remember the old Dallas this was a very powerful scene and was one Miss Ellie’s finer moments truer words were never spoken, and those words still ring true in this episode. Kind of reminds you of someone doesn't it JohnRoss using people Emma, and Pamela getting hurt is inevitable, look what he did to his own mother.

    FYI Elena watching JR and Emma, I don’t think she will be able to bring herself to tell Pamela she may even keep if from Nicholas. After her witnessing what Pamela went through at the hands of her brother? Just the look on her face after watching that video tells me she's torn.
    Anna and Bobby are in for a rough ride once Bobby finds out she's known about JohnRoss and Emma for a while.
    What makes you think regardless of what Elena and Nicolas dig up on the Ewings framing Cliff, Pamela would ever go back to her father again after what he did knowingly ordered blowing up the oil rig with her on it. She's been wronged by her father and now she's about to be wronged by her man, she won’t cut off her nose to spite her face, she will get even she already has with her father she's going to let him rot and remember what she said to John Ross about stepping out on her.... John Ross's turn is coming he has no idea. If he really thinks she will never find out he's very naïve, a fool or just plain cocky. John Ross is about ruin the only good thing in his life right now. Betrayed by her father and husband, this is going to send her to a real bad place.
    And oh by the way Elena is being played by Nicholas, she's in over her head sucked in by Nicholas; her reaction to Emma doing JR tells me that she is torn can she really hurt Pamela? Her loyalties’ will be tested, her brother returning Dallas will only complicate matters further
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    Could they? That's a whole other debate entirely as it was a different era. I do agree that new Dallas lost an audience in the UK with having to be on at 9pm, post watershed. But if original Dallas would be considered a family show, as in one to sit down and watch with your kids, is another thing entirely. Some would argue it wasn't and I know many many people who were banished from the TV at 8.10pm in UK as their parents thought it unsuitable.
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  12. Slick's Widow

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    I wish PammyBecca could experience the "joy" of emptying John Ross' perfectly ordered closet, dumping all of his clothes, jewelry, toys and other possessions in his car and setting everything ablaze. Since the Sheriff's department loves showing up at Southfork, they could advise PammyBecca of any ordinances against burning trash. She could then retort, "It IS trash!" and go on about her business. See, that's what I call therapy! Forget the marriage counselor at this point.

    She doesn't have to worry about emptying out the bank accounts since she's the one with most of the money anyway.
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    Perhaps Pamela's revenge is to wait until John Ross and Emma are in her rooming hooking up, then locking them in and setting a fire at the door....causing the whole house to burn down as she sits calmly by the pool, sipping a glass of wine and shopping on her iPad.
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    Skimming through the reviews, I found some of the prim pearl clutching rather amusing. I wonder what show these people were watching in the 80s? Surely not a show where, as you say, a middle aged ranch hand was screwing an under aged girl or the lead character forced women to have sex with him. There were characters on the show who had a degree of morality to be sure, but the series at its prime never took a moral route.
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    While reading your post, I thought, perhaps Elena will go to Christopher with the tape saying that this is what she got from Nicolas since HE bugged John Ross's office (and she's suppose to be getting info on Nicolas). Christopher runs to Daddy. Bobby goes to Ann and when Bobby/Ann confront John Ross/Emma, Pamela finds out.

    That was Elena doesn't have to show Pamela the tape or even admit she bugged the office.

    Hey, Christopher already has one John Ross sex tape, why not two! lol
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    Well in the promo for the next episode, Bobby and Ann are trying to get Sue Ellen released. 1) because they care about her but also 2) they want her free so she can vote to stop John Ross from taking the company public. Perhaps Sue Ellen tells Bobby about John Ross and Emma to give him some more leverage over John Ross or Sue Ellen tells Bobby and Ann to tell Pamela so she pulls her support from John Ross....because without her, he has no leg to stand on.
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    Yes, yes and yes.

    Some of our complaints about nuDALLAS have been reasonable. But some are just arbitrary and quixotic.

    Unfortunately, in memory, they tend to get all mixed together.
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    It's only filth when it's put into a show for shock effect, beamed onto my TV and and viewers are expected to watch and enjoy it as entertainment.

    Lucy & Ray were always fully clothed when they were in the hay loft, occasionally Ray's shirt was disheveled and we caught on quite well that they weren't playing backgammon. We don't need to be voyeurs every week into the details of the characters sex lives. As far as the show having immoral characters and immortal plots, the same could be said about Shakespeare. It's the way it's depicted and and the way those scenes are overtaking the show that is annoying.

    Excactly, it's another example of thinking the audience is that dumb.
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    I can say from experience that I watched it with my parents (except on nights when I went out and they taped it for me - it was on Fridays after all and I was in junior high and high school for part of it. When it first started I was still in elementary school. My family didn't start watching Dallas until a friend of the family recommended it to us so we missed the 5 episode mini season, the first 2 full seasons so we started watching at the 4th season DVD count. The kids in my neighborhood who were my age also watched Dallas with their parents. So yes, Dallas could be watched with the whole family and I guarantee you there are other people who post here who watched it with their parents.
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    I see that my stalker disagrees, yet she fails to say what she thinks would explain the show better. It's easy to just say you disagree with something but without offering your own opinion of why you disagree it doesn't make the discussion any more interesting.

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