Soap Chat - Politics, philosophy and religion http://www.soapchat.net/ en Sun, 26 May 2013 00:35:37 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.soapchat.net/images/styles/Movara/misc/rss.png Soap Chat - Politics, philosophy and religion http://www.soapchat.net/ California Insurance Exchange Announces Premium Rates http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217695-California-Insurance-Exchange-Announces-Premium-Rates&goto=newpost Sat, 25 May 2013 21:25:13 GMT http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/05/24/unexpected-health-insurance-rate-shock-california-obamacare-insurance-exchange-announces-premium-rates/ Rates far lower than predicted by pundits. Go *down *exactly as Obamacare intended. If you are among the many Americans who have bought... http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...premium-rates/

Rates far lower than predicted by pundits. Go down exactly as Obamacare intended.

If you are among the many Americans who have bought into the fear and loathing that has been the campaign against Obamacare, you just might wish to reconsider. With every passing day, the various myths, legends and lies put forward by those with a political axe to grind, TV or radio rating to be raised or vote to be purchased, are falling victim to the facts.

This is all good news for supporters of Obamacare and of course the many Americans who do not have any health care. My rate right now is abut five hundred per month for a gold version plan. I expect that to go down. ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion montyc http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217695-California-Insurance-Exchange-Announces-Premium-Rates We dodged a bullet with Romney http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217689-We-dodged-a-bullet-with-Romney&goto=newpost Sat, 25 May 2013 16:26:13 GMT Remember how he was going to be the master of the economy? Well we have another reason that proves he didn't know $h!t and thank God he did not become President.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...ion-loser-loan

If you voted for him, hang your head in shame.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/toddwood...s-tesla-gaffe/ ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion montyc http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217689-We-dodged-a-bullet-with-Romney <![CDATA[Man charged with making 'racist or anti-religious' Facebook comments]]> http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217688-Man-charged-with-making-racist-or-anti-religious-Facebook-comments&goto=newpost Sat, 25 May 2013 16:24:57 GMT What happened to 'freedom of speech?' This is England by the way, I am not sure it could happen here in America, I think we are more free to speak our mind.

Man charged with making 'racist or anti-religious' Facebook comments about British soldier’s death

Man charged with making 'racist or anti-religious' Facebook comments about British soldier’s death
Benjamin Flatters, 22, charged for making 'malicious comments' on the social networking site
Another man warned about his conduct on social media
Two men released on bail after comments made on Twitter
Police say people should be careful about what they write on twitter as the 'consequences could be serious'

A 22-year-old man has been charged on suspicion of making malicious comments on Facebook following the murder of British soldier Lee Rigby.

Benjamin Flatters, from Lincoln, was arrested last night after complaints were made to Lincolnshire Police about comments made on Facebook, which were allegedly of a racist or anti-religious nature.

He was charged with an offence of malicious communications this afternoon in relation to the comments, a Lincolnshire Police spokesman said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-s-death.html ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion ronald mascot http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217688-Man-charged-with-making-racist-or-anti-religious-Facebook-comments Madonna/Whore complex...any Freudians out there? http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217674-Madonna-Whore-complex-any-Freudians-out-there&goto=newpost Fri, 24 May 2013 20:44:52 GMT I've been studying the whole Madonna/Whore complex for a story I'm writing. Can anyone else help explain it to me in layman's terms, and if it can be treated? I understand the basics..that a man can't help but either see his wife as "good" and "pure" and therefore cannot have sex with her, or he classifies women as whores, or bad, and can feel free to objectify women. Isn't that what Elvis had with Priscilla or even to a certain extent Tiger Woods and the mother of his children? ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion carylfan10 http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217674-Madonna-Whore-complex-any-Freudians-out-there <![CDATA[Bill O'Reilly on The Daily Show last night]]> http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217659-Bill-O-Reilly-on-The-Daily-Show-last-night&goto=newpost Thu, 23 May 2013 14:17:41 GMT http://youtu.be/MT8sBhlkaoQ This is truly worth a watch for conservatives and liberals alike. Bill and Jon Stewart were able to provide a few good laughs between them, IMO anyway. http://youtu.be/MT8sBhlkaoQ

This is truly worth a watch for conservatives and liberals alike. Bill and Jon Stewart were able to provide a few good laughs between them, IMO anyway. ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion Fajita Mel http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217659-Bill-O-Reilly-on-The-Daily-Show-last-night It is time to ban fossil fuels and SUVs http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217658-It-is-time-to-ban-fossil-fuels-and-SUVs&goto=newpost Thu, 23 May 2013 02:23:53 GMT The most effective way to force change in American society is outright bans. One of the most dire situations our world is facing is global warming, which is a real threat. The Oklahoma tornadoes, horrible winter the Midwest faced this year, Hurricane Sandy are all evidence of this. AND PEOPLE ARE... The most effective way to force change in American society is outright bans. One of the most dire situations our world is facing is global warming, which is a real threat. The Oklahoma tornadoes, horrible winter the Midwest faced this year, Hurricane Sandy are all evidence of this. AND PEOPLE ARE THE #1 CAUSE. People continue to drive around in gas-guzzling SUVs that emit dangerous carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. That causes global warming. Global warming causes superstorms, species to go extinct and people to suffer.

Those who do not agree with this, those who even drive non-electric/hybrid cars...blood is on YOUR hands every time someone dies in a severe storm, since the severe storm was made worse by global warming, and global warming is created by YOU. ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion More On http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217658-It-is-time-to-ban-fossil-fuels-and-SUVs Justice Department acknowledges drone strikes killed 4 Americans http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217650-Justice-Department-acknowledges-drone-strikes-killed-4-Americans&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 20:50:49 GMT http://www.cnn.com Counterterrorism drone strikes have killed four Americans since 2009, Attorney General Eric Holder acknowledged in a letter to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy. The letter said that one of the four was American-born Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and... http://www.cnn.com


Counterterrorism drone strikes have killed four Americans since 2009, Attorney General Eric Holder acknowledged in a letter to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy.



The letter said that one of the four was American-born Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and that the other three "were not specifically targeted by the United States."


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Let the mayhem begin. American vigilantism...... ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion Sonya in Tx http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217650-Justice-Department-acknowledges-drone-strikes-killed-4-Americans Another phony scandal-The umbrella outrage http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217627-Another-phony-scandal-The-umbrella-outrage&goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 16:49:10 GMT Attachment 48878 (http://www.soapchat.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=48878) Name: obama.jpg Views: 30 Size: 71.9 KB
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]]> Politics, philosophy and religion montyc http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217627-Another-phony-scandal-The-umbrella-outrage My Education and Intelligence are Not Equal to your Ignorance and Stupidity http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217626-My-Education-and-Intelligence-are-Not-Equal-to-your-Ignorance-and-Stupidity&goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 15:38:21 GMT Isn't it about time that's how we respond to the Republicans? The party of ignorant and proud of it. ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion montyc http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217626-My-Education-and-Intelligence-are-Not-Equal-to-your-Ignorance-and-Stupidity When the IRS targeted liberals http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217608-When-the-IRS-targeted-liberals&goto=newpost Sun, 19 May 2013 23:08:35 GMT When the IRS targeted liberals Under George W. Bush, it went after the NAACP, Greenpeace and even a liberal church By Alex Seitz-Wald While few are defending the Internal Revenue Service for targeting some 300 conservative groups, there are two critical pieces of context missing from... When the IRS targeted liberals

Under George W. Bush, it went after the NAACP, Greenpeace and even a liberal church

By Alex Seitz-Wald


While few are defending the Internal Revenue Service for targeting some 300 conservative groups, there are two critical pieces of context missing from the conventional wisdom on the “scandal.” First, at least from what we know so far, the groups were not targeted in a political vendetta — but rather were executing a makeshift enforcement test (an ugly one, mind you) for IRS employees tasked with separating political groups not allowed to claim tax-exempt status, from bona fide social welfare organizations. Employees are given almost zero official guidance on how to do that, so they went after Tea Party groups because those seemed like they might be political. Keep in mind, the commissioner of the IRS at the time was a Bush appointee.

The second is that while this is the first time this kind of thing has become a national scandal, it’s not the first time such activity has occurred.

“I wish there was more GOP interest when I raised the same issue during the Bush administration, where they audited a progressive church in my district in what look liked a very selective way,” California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff said on MSNBC Monday. “I found only one Republican, [North Carolina Rep. Walter Jones], that would join me in calling for an investigation during the Bush administration. I’m glad now that the GOP has found interest in this issue and it ought to be a bipartisan concern.”

The well-known church, All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena, became a bit of a cause célèbre on the left after the IRS threatened to revoke the church’s tax-exempt status over an anti-Iraq War sermon the Sunday before the 2004 election. “Jesus [would say], ‘Mr. President, your doctrine of preemptive war is a failed doctrine,’” rector George Regas said from the dais.

The church, which said progressive activism was in its “DNA,” hired a powerful Washington lawyer and enlisted the help of Schiff, who met with the commissioner of the IRS twice and called for a Government Accountability Office investigation, saying the IRS audit violated the First Amendment and was unduly targeting a political opponent of the Bush administration. “My client is very concerned that the close coordination undertaken by the IRS allowed partisan political concerns to direct the course of the All Saints examination,” church attorney Marcus Owens, who is widely considered one of the country’s leading experts on this area of the law, said at the time. In 2007, the IRS closed the case, decreeing that the church violated rules preventing political intervention, but it did not revoke its nonprofit status.

And while All Saints came under the gun, conservative churches across the country were helping to mobilize voters for Bush with little oversight. In 2006, citing the precedent of All Saints, “a group of religious leaders accused the Internal Revenue Service yesterday of playing politics by ignoring its complaint that two large churches in Ohio are engaging in what it says are political activities, in violation of the tax code,” the New York Times reported at the time. The churches essentially campaigned for a Republican gubernatorial candidate, they alleged, and even flew him on one of their planes.

Meanwhile, Citizens for Ethics in Washington filed two ethics complaints against a church in Minnesota. “You know we can’t publicly endorse as a church and would not for any candidate, but I can tell you personally that I’m going to vote for Michele Bachmann,” pastor Mac Hammond of the Living Word Christian Center in Minnesota said in 2006 before welcoming her to the church. The IRS opened an audit into the church, but it went nowhere after the church appealed the audit on a technicality.

And it wasn’t just churches. In 2004, the IRS went after the NAACP, auditing the nation’s oldest civil rights group after its chairman criticized President Bush for being the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover not to address the organization. “They are saying if you criticize the president we are going to take your tax exemption away from you,” then-chairman Julian Bond said. “It’s pretty obvious that the complainant was someone who doesn’t believe George Bush should be criticized, and it’s obvious of their response that the IRS believes this, too.”

In a letter to the IRS, Democratic Reps. Charles Rangel, Pete Stark and John Conyers wrote: “It is obvious that the timing of this IRS examination is nothing more than an effort to intimidate the members of the NAACP, and the communities the organization represents, in their get-out-the-vote effort nationwide.”

Then, in 2006, the Wall Street Journal broke the story of a how a little-known pressure group called Public Interest Watch — which received 97 percent of its funds from Exxon Mobile one year — managed to get the IRS to open an investigation into Greenpeace. Greenpeace had labeled Exxon Mobil the “No. 1 climate criminal.” The IRS acknowledged its audit was initiated by Public Interest Watch and threatened to revoke Greenpeace’s tax-exempt status, but closed the investigation three months later.

As the Journal reporter, Steve Stecklow, later said in an interview, “This comes against a backdrop where a number of conservative groups have been attacking nonprofits and NGOs over their tax-exempt status. There have been hearings on Capitol Hill. There have been a number of conservative groups in Washington who have been quite critical.”

Indeed, the year before that, the Senate held a hearing on nonprofits’ political activity. Republican Sen. Charles Grassley, the then-chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, said the IRS needed better enforcement, but also “legislative changes” to better define the lines between politics and social welfare, since they had not been updated in “a generation.” Unfortunately, neither Congress nor the IRS has defined 501(c)4′s sufficiently to this day, leaving the door open for IRS auditors to make up their own, discriminatory rules.

Those cases mostly involved 501c3 organizations, which live in a different section of the tax code for real charities like hospitals and schools. The rules are much stronger and better developed for c3′s, in part because they’ve been around longer. But with “social welfare” c4 groups, the kind of political activity we saw in 2010 and 2012 is so unprecedented that you get cases like Emerge America, a progressive nonprofit that trains Democratic female candidates for public office. The group has chapters across the country, but in 2011, chapters in Massachusetts, Maine and Nevada were denied 501c4 tax-exempt status. Leaders called the situation “bizarre” because in the five years Nevada had waited for approval, the Kentucky chapter was approved, only for the other three to be denied.

A former IRS official told the New York Times that probably meant the applications were sent to different offices, which use slightly different standards. Different offices within the same organization that are supposed to impose the exact same rules in a consistent manner have such uneven conceptions of where to draw the line at a political group, that they can approve one organization and then deny its twin in a different state.

All of these stories suggest that while concern with the IRS posture toward conservative groups now may be merited, to fully understand the situation requires a bit of context and history. ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion SnarkyOracle! http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217608-When-the-IRS-targeted-liberals How will marriage equality opponents be remembered in the history books? http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217564-How-will-marriage-equality-opponents-be-remembered-in-the-history-books&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 10:26:56 GMT I really do wonder if they know that they will be recalled with revulsion and shame, just like champions of slavery and those that opposed the civil rights act are today? I love that Virginia, for the first time, has moved into our column and recent polling shows that more support than oppose... I really do wonder if they know that they will be recalled with revulsion and shame, just like champions of slavery and those that opposed the civil rights act are today?

I love that Virginia, for the first time, has moved into our column and recent polling shows that more support than oppose marriage equality. The nation is shifting but one political party clings the past of bigotry and hate and it will die a nice, hopefully fateful, death soon. ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion montyc http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217564-How-will-marriage-equality-opponents-be-remembered-in-the-history-books The disaster of Obama http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217563-The-disaster-of-Obama&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 10:18:27 GMT Do you live in the world of propaganda or the real world? Take this test and find out. Under Obama the deficit has. A) Increased wildly. A socialist Marxist spends like mad, what do you expect? B) Fluctuated wildly as federal free corn bread and watermelon programs have come and gone. ... Do you live in the world of propaganda or the real world? Take this test and find out.

Under Obama the deficit has.

A) Increased wildly. A socialist Marxist spends like mad, what do you expect?
B) Fluctuated wildly as federal free corn bread and watermelon programs have come and gone.
C) Reached a four year low and decreased as total percentage of the budget more than Reagan, Bush or Dumb Thug Bush, (you know those guys, the ones who championed deficit reduction but only paid lip service as they increased it)

Obamacare is a program that does what?

A) Provides group rate access to private health care groups.
B) Will kill Grandma with it's death panels.
C) Give blacks and Latinos another freebie. While I work my cherry white butt off down they get pampered spa treatments courtesy Uncle Sam!

Obama's focus on catching the person who was the mastermind behind 9/11 instead of using him as a tool for the big scare campaign and as a way to sell a war on Iraq resulted in what?

A) Catching and killing Osama Bin Laden
B) A disco party in the White House where friend chicken and collared greens were splattered all over the place. That's what happens when crack addicts are left to run the White House.
C) Nothing, Osama was not his focus and actually doing something about the roots of terrorism were far less important than using it as a tool to expand the power of law enforcement, big government and trample those pesky constitutional rights that get in the way of what good Americans know is a bunch of nonsense. ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion montyc http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217563-The-disaster-of-Obama <![CDATA["We got a black president who can't do sh!t" - Dennis Rodman]]> http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217542-quot-We-got-a-black-president-who-can-t-do-sh!t-quot-Dennis-Rodman&goto=newpost Tue, 14 May 2013 18:28:30 GMT [TR] [TD="class: alt2, bgcolor:...]]> Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and next...Dennis Rodman for Secretary of State?

LOL

http://www.examiner.com/article/rodm...t-do-expletive

Quote:
A recent trip to Communist North Korea and getting cozy with the Supreme Leader has Dennis Rodman now passing judgment on U.S. foreign policies, specifically the way President Obama is dealing with an imprisoned American, reports belgeinfo.com on May 10.

Dennis Rodman said that President Barack Obama “can't do sh**t” about Kenneth Bae, an American imprisoned in North Korea.

Rodman went to North Korea in February to film a documentary and became fast friends with dictator Kim Jong Un.

The American imprisoned in North Korea was recently sentenced to 15 years of hard labor for allegedly engaging in unspecified “hostile acts” against the country while being a tour operator there.

Rodman said via Twitter that he wanted Kim to “cut Kenneth Bae loose.”

Rodman has been referred to as the unofficial United States ambassador to the communist country. In a nation closed to the outside world, Kim Jong Un, a Rodman fan, seems to allow the former NBA baller to come and go as he pleases.

Rodman is now taking the matter into his own hands, Delta Force style.

“I'm going to try to get the guy out,” said Rodman to TMZ on May 10. Rodman plans to head into North Korea on August 1 and hopes to get the deal finalized then.

Rodman lashed out at Obama with these words:

“We got a black president who can't even go over to talk to Kim. Obama can't do [expletive].”

Rodman takes credit for getting Kim to close up his missile launchers, and figures he can hold sway over Kim's decision to release Brae.

“He put those missiles back in storage, right?” Rodman boasted.

Obama said earlier in the week while hosting South Korea President Park Guen-hye that both America and South Korea “will not reward provocative actions.”

“The days when North Korea could create a crisis and elicit concessions, those days are over,” Obama said.
]]> Politics, philosophy and religion McGarrett . http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217542-quot-We-got-a-black-president-who-can-t-do-sh!t-quot-Dennis-Rodman Watch These Straight People Answer A Question Gay People Have Been Asked For Years http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217488-Watch-These-Straight-People-Answer-A-Question-Gay-People-Have-Been-Asked-For-Years&goto=newpost Thu, 09 May 2013 22:45:25 GMT I love that many of those asked how they chose, after expressing that gay people do, respond thoughtfully.]]>

I love that many of those asked how they chose, after expressing that gay people do, respond thoughtfully. ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion montyc http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217488-Watch-These-Straight-People-Answer-A-Question-Gay-People-Have-Been-Asked-For-Years To All Benghazi Conspiracists http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217450-To-All-Benghazi-Conspiracists&goto=newpost Wed, 08 May 2013 18:34:48 GMT How come you are/weren't concerned about any of these attacks?

6/14/2002, U.S. consulate Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12, injures 51.

2/20/2003, international diplomatic compound Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.

2/28/2003, U.S. consulate Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

7/30/2004, U.S. embassy Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.

12/6/2004, U.S. consulate Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed, occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

3/2/2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi
Suicide car bomber killed four, including U.S. diplomat.

9/12/2006, U.S. embassy- Damascus
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, car bomb (second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed, 13 wounded.

1/12/2007, U.S. embassy- Athens
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at embassy building. No injured.

7/9/2008, U.S. consulate- Istanbul
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols, shotguns. Three policemen killed.

3/18/2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls' school.

9/17/2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades, car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers, seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured”

Is that the sound of crickets I hear? ]]> Politics, philosophy and religion montyc http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?217450-To-All-Benghazi-Conspiracists