View Full Version : Carter McCay like him or hate him?
07-07-2000, 07:40 PM
So many dallas fans I know loved the Carter McCay character on Dallas. I am just curious if the posters here feel the same?
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07-07-2000, 07:42 PM
I guess you didn`t know that many. http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I guess that explains how I feel about him.
07-07-2000, 07:51 PM
I liked Carter. In the beginning I hated him for causing all that trouble for the Ewings. I wanted to knock his ass down a few pegs, but when he started to come around as an ok character, I liked him.
I still think that it was sad he was kicked out of WestStar.
07-08-2000, 02:35 AM
I thought Carter was GROSS! http://www.homepagetools.com/bulletinboard/Pamela/eek.gif The thought of him disgusts me beyond words. And that black vest of his! Oh God...I won't even go there! He always seemed to be wearing it. I'm just hoping that it wasn't the same one all the time! Yuck! And that sweaty red face...oh God, I think I'm going to puke. I'll just end things here http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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07-08-2000, 02:32 PM
I preferred Jeremy wendell, who Carter replaced. Jeremy was always as, if not more, important than Carter McKay, yet he never appeared in the opening credits! I think they should have given Jeremy more storylines, I always found him interesting. McKay wasn't too bad, just not my all time favorite.
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07-08-2000, 05:52 PM
I think that Carter McKay was THE WORST character EVER on DALLAS.
His introduction was a definate sign the show was on its way out
07-08-2000, 06:47 PM
I am a big McCay fan. If you watch the range war you will see that McCay was the major heel of the show towards the end. If the show had the production of the early years, McCay would have been a better character. I agree with Harry about Wendel. Wendel was another wasted character, and with McCay the duo make a tough enemy for JR. Dont forget in the end McCay got total revenge on JR.
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07-09-2000, 05:51 PM
I think Carter was one of the worst characters on Dallas. Not only was he the ultimate symbol that it was over, but what is there to like about an overweight loud-mouth, never-smiling slob? This guy had no charizma whatsoever, they should have stuck with Jeremy, he was at least believable!
07-10-2000, 08:02 AM
I agree with Afton_Cooper. Carter McKay DID have a red face. AND the way he lost his temper. Gritting those teeth and those fists of his would almost explode whenever J.R. stuck it to him. He was SO grose to watch and I agree that Wendell should have been the victor and Carter should have been the loser. I guess with Carter being an enemy then friend later it was very confusing. I never did understand the attraction between Bobby and McKay's daughter (forgot her name!). What a miss-match. I just wish that Bobby was able to find a woman made for him. Too bad April died. Ever since April's death, Bobby seemed to be wandering from woman to woman. Oh well, that's another subject.
But back to McKay. He was grose and had a drop-dead temper. His character just played too long on the show and should have been written out. But then, again, we wouldn't have that story line of Miss Ellie, Clayton, Jessica and Dusty's father nor would we have the story line of the other Ewings of Texas......
Good actor, didn't like him on Dallas. :-).
07-10-2000, 11:57 AM
First before I comment on Carter McKay I would like to give thanks to some of the posters who made me laugh.
To Pamela who made me spew my soda while reading her post.
To Afton_Cooper who made me choke on my popcorn while reading your post. I just love those emoticons :-)
And to JockEwing thanks for the never ending laugh on loud mouth never smiling slob. That's a great adjective to describe him so for the sake of not repeating everyone's post I will say good-bye :-)
p.s. Ya know I think I've actually seen a red face swollen liped fish before. Maybe it was McKay in a former life?
07-10-2000, 10:12 PM
I liked Carter McCay during the storyline in which he tried to help his drugged out, psycho son get back on his feet. Any parent with a troubled child could relate.
Carter's low point may have been getting his wife to sleep around for his own gain. Rose may not have been much, but she seemed to care for Mac.
All they could do with McCay was try to turn him into another Jeremy Wendell with a hatred for Bobby instead of J.R.
Then, by the end of the series, and in the 2 movies, he was Mr. Nice Guy again. Too many changes.
07-10-2000, 11:09 PM
Glad you liked the post. I really almost puked writing that thing lol http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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07-10-2000, 11:21 PM
Maybe Carter had an anger/mood swings problem. It was obvious the guy needed anger managment classes, lol.
But I think my fave ep with Carter was during Cally and JR's wedding (which is a classic episode in it's own right). It was funny to see Carter sneak down into the kitchen and Bobby ask "You want a piece of cake from the bride or groom side?" and Carter replies "Just bring the whole thing out here."
Ok so he had a really nasty vest, lol, but overall I liked Carter a lot more then I liked Jeremy Wendel. Jeremy always represented a force to be recogned with, but he wasn't that "comical relief" that Carter was at times.
Carter was like a mixture of personalities thrown into one. And I thought George Kennedy did a great job playing Carter. I don't think there is any other actor I can picture playing Carter.
I think Carter was one of the better characters
of the last years of the show. He could be likable in one episode, absolutely hateful in another. He could be hot and cold.
He had a drug-addicted son, a daughter he had trouble getting to know, on the other hand he had Rose sleep around for his own selfish purposes.
His feud with Bobby was because of Tommy's death which Tommy himself brought on himself, but in the end Carter was sensible enough to bury the hatchet.
Carter was a lot more complex than people give him credit for.
01-03-2004, 03:50 AM
I like George Kennedy (Did you know he legally adopted his grandaughter, cos his daughter couldn't look after her?!) but I disliked the character of Carter McKay, the waistcoats, the bad temper, sweaty about to burst a blood vessel personality, not to mention his 2 sprogs on Dallas-yikes! http://images.bravenet.com/brpics/smilie/22_yikes.gif
But think he was great in other films such as Cool Hand Luke and Naked Gun series.
Didn't like him, the plots, his family or his wife Rose.
01-03-2004, 02:22 PM
Carter McKay was a @*#&$&%^&$*$!
However I did think that Wendell was a much better extra villian than he was.
He had no scruples, no children and no qualms about sticking it to Ewing OIL. Carter Mellowed before the end.
01-03-2004, 03:39 PM
Hated the character, he symbolized the worst Dallas years.
01-03-2004, 11:15 PM
The trouble with Carter Mackay was that the character was played so wooden that his leather waistcoat was more animated.
01-04-2004, 08:41 AM
Just an FYI, the actor appeared on Young & The Restless a month ago or so as Victor Newman's father. It took me a second to place him, but I did remember him. Don't remember much about his Dallas character anymore, but from what I do remember, he seemed go be somewhat of a similar old haggard.
'Harry McSween' expresses much of my feeling about Carter McKay. George Kennedy was a fine actor, and the introduction of McKay with the season 11 range-war plot (had it made more sense) was okay, but he was used in the show to replace Jeremy Wendell...
BIG MISTAKE... Jeremy was, and should have remained, the most malevolent anti-Ewing force (as James-from-London once described, a potential "satanic puppet master") helping to do all he could to bring down the Ewings in the later seasons, especially with the Barnes/Ewing feud softening with Pam's exit.
But McKay was a poor-- or poorly drawn replacement character, now in to represent Weststar and All Things Anti-Ewing... That should NEVER have been taken away from the infinitely more creepy Jeremy Wendell (whether McKay existed or not)... I hear Katzman liked Kennedy personally, and that seemed to be how later "Dallas" decisions were made.
What's more, the one story that logically linked McKay to the Ewings (in a Romeo & Juliet kind of replay of Bobby and Pam) was Bobby's romance to his daughter, Tracey... Now I know people dont entirely agree about this, but of all the people Bobby dated after Pam left (from Kay Lloyd thru his 2-second marriage to April) I thought he had the MOST chemistry with Tracey-- not the LEAST... But they just tossed that plot [with so many others, as they were doing on the show by that time] out seemingly without a thought... One contrived fight with Tracy's crazy brother Tommy, who should never have been on "Dallas" at all, and Bobby and Tracey beak-up to make him free to date April (again, Katzman was friends with Sheree Wilson).
And while I liked April, she was not believable to me as wife and lover to Bobby--- I just never bought it... Tracey McKay Lawton, off-beat as she was believable such a role.
But once she was gone, no reason existed any longer for Carter to really be around anymore, except for that cussin' boy's-club thing where plots were now secondary.
mcKay was a waste most of the time. i never knew what he screaming about.
01-04-2004, 05:14 PM
LOL I know he was always so red faced http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://images.bravenet.com/brpics/smilie/censored.gif http://www.ultimatedallas.com/granny/Tantrum.gif
Yeah, that extra weight'll do it...
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01-04-2004, 06:01 PM
I got a Viagra stuck in my throat and I've had a stiff neck for hours.
AhhThank you very much!
01-05-2004, 02:23 AM
I like Carter in the movie "JR returns". I haven`t seen Carter in the series until now.
carter seemed constipated.
01-05-2004, 06:00 PM
Not one of my favorite characters.
01-13-2006, 04:00 AM
I like George Kennedy. He didn't great in the "Airport" films, but I hated the character of Carter McCay, especially after Tommy died.
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09-13-2012, 11:13 PM
I actually started to "appreciate" the character with this near-epiphany: the man is completely stark raving mad. I mean, as in "nice young men in their clean white coats" insane. The tantrums, the monotonous wardrobe, the use of a private army complete with explosives (which gives "housewarming" a whole 'nother meaning!).
I think it really dawned on my when he attacked Bobby for beating up Tommy; he wasn't in denial like Tracy, HE KNEW what Tommy did to April yet, instead of being apologetic, he went completely over the wall with the protective parent bit. That's lunacy!
09-13-2012, 11:39 PM
I don't have a strong opinion of him one way or the other. I enjoyed him during the range war. Who I really despised was his kids Tommy and Tracey. I can hardly bring myself to watch a scene with Tommy and Tracey was not right for Bobby at all. I thought McKay was hilarious when he would get really mad.
09-13-2012, 11:49 PM
One of the worst- if not the worst- character on Dallas. He symbolized the later bad years just because of when he was introduced- the show had gotten bad before- but it dipped to awful at the start of that season and never looked back. It doesn't help that he was also included in the terrible TV movies afterward- which just continued the horrible writing tradition. When you see Carter McKay, you know it's the "bad years." Even April got in when it was still semi-decent.
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