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07-07-2000, 10:09 AM
Does anyone know if Dallas the Early Years will be on TNN again soon, last time it was on I only got to see half of it, and I would like to tape it all. IF anyone can help I would appreciate it.
07-07-2000, 06:47 PM
Austin, I dont know about the early years but J.R. Returns will be shown for the first time on TNN on Sept. 12.
07-10-2000, 10:20 PM
Let me offer a few comments about Dallas the Early Years.
First, the corporate name Ewing Oil was never used. I thought that Jock would have applied the sacred corporate name as soon as the first well came in.
We never hear Jock refer to Ellie as Miss Ellie.
From the movie, Jock did not have clear title to the company. Would a court of law have recognized his coin toss with Digger? I doubt it.
Jock's relationship with Ellie seemed to be cold and loveless. They would have both rather been married to other people. Jock wanted sex and Ellie wanted a rich guy to bail out her daddy. That's it.
07-10-2000, 11:33 PM
That's intresting, Bill, but I don't see eye to eye on some of the things. Anyone feel free to correct me on anything, cuz I might be wrong, lol http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I don't think Ewing Oil could be called that "Ewing Oil" because at the time, Cliff was in buisness with them, until he relinquished his rights.
I don't think Jock would refer to her as "Miss Ellie" for one, Miss Ellie was still relativly young, and number two, I think that was a name she picked up later in life. (Was there any evedence that says when Miss Ellie picked up her nickname?)
I don't know exactly about law technicalities, but a coin toss being held up in court, who knows. That was what, the 30's? There might not have been many technicalities dealing with something like that.
As for Ellie and Jock's love being out of sex and money, that's partially accurate, but I've always saw their marriage as if it was an arranged marriage. I think at the time it was a marriage of convenience, much like that of an arranged marriage, but over time they both genuinly grew to love eachother. That's a definite possibility in my opinion.
07-11-2000, 07:46 AM
I always thought the story line went this way:
Dallas: The Early Years protrayed Jock having a liking of Miss Ellie before she started liking him. Remember how he looked at her when he first saw her. She didn't seem to like him all that much, but when her father's ranch was in trouble financially, she went to him. Seduced him, but in a way she acted like she liked him, too. She ended up getting pregnant with J.R. and told Jock. He then divorced Amanda and married Miss Ellie. I thought she did fall in love with him right after that. I think it was a combination of keeping her father's ranch from being sold off, being pregnant, and also being in love with Jock.
Digger was her close friend. Sure she loved him, but in a non-sexual way. She knew Digger a lot longer than she knew Jock, but I believe she really did love Jock when she married him. It's just that Southfork was in almost financial ruin and she knew it. Southfork was her life and she would have done anything just to save it. I guess it all worked out perfectly the way Jock hit it rich, and fell in love with Miss Ellie. She was very young, naieve, and she probably did have an idea of wanting to marry the rich Jock Ewing just to save the ranch. But, I believe love played a big part in it.
It's very confusing when you read books about how Miss Ellie and Jock met and how they eventually got married. The movie tells a totally different story. I would guess that the personality that Miss Ellie has, it was a combination of all that I stated above.
About Jock calling her Miss Ellie, I've heard him say it quite a few times. He mostly did call her Ellie. Most everyone else either called her Momma, or Miss Ellie. I know during the Early Years movie she was called Ellie. I'm not sure how it changed from Ellie to Miss Ellie. I guess as she grew older, everyone started calling her Miss Ellie out of respect.
I've heard her tell several people how she had to marry Jock, but it's hard to imagine that she married him only for his money. She was a strong person and she and Jock had a strange love story all the way until his death.
I believe that it was fate that brought them together and not really circumstances. Jock was meant to meet Digger and Jock was meant to meet and fall in love with Ellie.
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