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Jock
05-30-2000, 10:28 AM
If drugs were made legal, taxed, regulated, etc., do you think this would make the crime rate go up or down? I'm interested to see what people think about this.

Pamela Barnes
05-30-2000, 11:55 AM
LOL Ultimate Dallas the thinking persons forum http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Anyway of course it would go down if they were made legal. Ok here are my thoughts on the issue.

I would legalise cannabis use, in London anway everyone is at it, in fact it is better for you than cigerettes, (if eatten not smoked). Unlike alcohol it does not creat aggressive activity but in fact relaxes the body, yes while stoned it can affect short term memory but it can also heighten sensation. There are no proven long term effects and it has been proved that it cleans and clears the lungs. It also relaxes muscles hence used in medicine.

Lets look at some other drugs such as Ecsasty, now people take drugs, like it or not its a fact. Now many people die from bad doses, regulation could in fact provide testing on drugs before people took them to make sure they were safe. It would also cut out the whole nasty side of the drug industry.

But no I think it would depend on how it was done, I would not want certain drugs to become socially acceptable by any means. Drugs are used to escape and many people will want to escape continullay.
I would not tell anyone not to take drugs but basically to look at why they are taking them, who is in control of your life You or the drugs? By that I mean if you are rolling a joint when you wake up, can`t go to work, school etc, if it effects your life negatively then it is in CONTROL of you.
Very much like alchol, now I go out drinking with my friends, but it is not affecting me functioning in other areas of my life.
What need to happen is to have more information on drugs , its no use saying "don`t do it", there needs to be information, lots of it , to provide the facts to allow people to make informed choices rather than indulgeing then thinking consequences later.


I wonder if alcholol or tobacco was discovered later on in time if they would of been considered illegal. Alcohol as all dallas fans should know is one of, if not thee most destructive and addictive drugs available and its legal.

Jock
05-30-2000, 12:36 PM
I feel at least cannibus should be legal. I too agree it's far better than drink and cigarettes, possibly even caffene, all of which are acceptable. The prisons and courts are clogged with these offenders and it would better suited to fill those cells with violent offenders (see gun debate, lol).
It's not a perfect world and there's only so much room in jail unless you want to start a country of offenders like Escape from New York or Australia, lol :-).

It cuts out crime rings that reply on income as drugs and would make it taxed/regulated, thus generating more gov't revenue and less need to raise taxes (not that they wouldn't anyway). It's bizzare to have alcohol legal and pot not (ryhme), but they are afraid if they make legal and it doesn't work, it will be prohibition again (high crime). Does anyone know what the crime rate is in those countries where pot and all drugs are legal (just curious to see if I know what I'm talking about, haha).

I even feel legalized prostitution would do much of the same. Regulated to areas and taxed, it would free up an incredible amount of police to focus in on our true problems at hand.

Unforunately, pot and prostitutes generate a tremendous amount of money in fines for the police and money is their objective. Solving real problems is secondary which is why there are more cops handing out tickets than fishing up people with warrants for violent offenses. There's no money in solving a problem as the loot is in the comeback, the same philosophies used by drug dealers.

This is why I feel a cure for aids isn't faster along. The money isnt in the cure, it's in the drug company that fights for credit and patents to keep you alive over curing. The same is true of many diseases. I mean, Jerry hasn't cured those kids yet? Where is that money going, lol.

In any case, just wondering what other's thoughts are on the pros and cons of these things as I'd like some feedback and input to stimulate my thought process for once :-)

(Now, just 98 more posts to tie Pam, haha)

[This message has been edited by Jock (edited 05-30-2000).]

JockEwing
05-30-2000, 02:42 PM
I agree that pot should be legal, but I'm on the fence in regards to other drugs. Pot is not as harmful as alcohol and nicotine and for them to be legal while pot is illegal is
wrong. I don't think cocaine and heroin should be legal though, they cause too much damage. But they are also the drugs which are associated with crime so maybe we should try a short term legalization to test the waters. Pamela, I'm interested to know where
you got the information that pot cleans out
the lungs. Is this true? From what I've heard, it is full of carcinagens(sp).

Pam Ewing
05-31-2000, 10:06 AM
Alcohol, alcoholics, and drunk drivers have probably done far more damage to people, families and property than any drug. When people take illegal drugs, they usually injure themselves. Alcoholics kill innocent people and ruin their own families.

It seems pretty obvious to me that drugs should be legal and regulated, and alcohol absolutely abolished. I'm tired of seeing drunk drivers kill someone and not be remorseful, and blame it on the alcohol. yes, the alcohol made them lose control of their bodily functions, but THEY CHOSE to drink, knowing what it could do to them. Besides that, many drunk drivers get off easy, only to drive drunk again and again.

Jessie
05-31-2000, 10:54 PM
I personally don't think making it legal to do drugs is a good idea. I just think we have enough violence and crimes in the world making it easy to obtain drugs would only make things worse. My opinion.

Charro
03-25-2004, 01:01 PM
It depends on the drug Jock. I think certain drugs should be legalised. Cannibas and hash should be. The damage caused by them is just as bad as cigarettes and they don't make you aggressive but rather extra happy. We need more of that in the world. The police spend and waste too much resources on this kind of nonsense. If people are going to use drugs they are going to use them and thats that. Theres so many other legal things out there that can kill just as easily. Its all about moderation. A samll amount of drugs will not be bad, its just the addiction that sets in but people have an addiction for sugar and salt and these cause fatal heart attacks so its all the same in the end.

Mrs.JockEwing
03-25-2004, 02:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pam Ewing:
Alcohol, alcoholics, and drunk drivers have probably done far more damage to people, families and property than any drug. When people take illegal drugs, they usually injure themselves. Alcoholics kill innocent people and ruin their own families.

It seems pretty obvious to me that drugs should be legal and regulated, and alcohol absolutely abolished. I'm tired of seeing drunk drivers kill someone and not be remorseful, and blame it on the alcohol. yes, the alcohol made them lose control of their bodily functions, but THEY CHOSE to drink, knowing what it could do to them. Besides that, many drunk drivers get off easy, only to drive drunk again and again. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.ultimatedallas.com/granny/Good-Post.gif Agreed.

gravy47
03-25-2004, 03:32 PM
This is a cool thread to bring back to life.

I think that marijuana should be legalised. Yall quit calling it cannabis and just call it weed or herb or pot...LOL

There are far worse things in this world than firing up a big ol' doobie.

The only reason it isnt legal is because the government is making money with it. Both in profit from sale and profit from arrest...LOL

I wish I had a picture of Willie Nelson blazing the cheeba on the roof of the White House. He said he did and he even apologized for it.


I'll never smoke weed with Willie again....http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Charro
03-25-2004, 03:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gravy47:
This is a cool thread to bring back to life.

I think that marijuana should be legalised. Yall quit calling it cannabis and just call it weed or herb or pot...LOL

There are far worse things in this world than firing up a big ol' doobie.

The only reason it isnt legal is because the government is making money with it. Both in profit from sale and profit from arrest...LOL
D <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks,
OK,
True,
Very True. http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif