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Brody
04-01-2004, 08:43 AM
Dallas. Dynasty. Falcon Crest. The soaps which stood head and shoulderpads above the rest, and took the soaps out of daytime, and out of the suburbs, and into the bedrooms and boardrooms of the high and mighty.

Since the heady days when these three ballsy shows reigned supreme, prime time soaps have fallen somewhat from the tops of the ratings, and from favour. The 90s saw a series of attempts to revive the genre (Central Park West, 2000 Malibu Road, The Monroes), none of which caught that essential spark, CPW lasting the longest at two seasons. The long shadow cast by the Ewings, Carringtons and Channings, however, resigned these shows to their fate almost before they hit the air. Park West became the worst perpetrator of the 80s influence - into it's second year it employed Raquel Welch as a vengeful ex-wife bitch to a character called Blake, oh, sorry... Brock, who got into a cat fight with her rival, his more demure new wife. Hmmmm.

Anyway, all of these supersoaps have, whilst not gathered viewers in their millions, found a fanbase. And here on these boards, we have had any numbers of discussions about what makes a supersoap, whilst supersoaps fail, why they're a success, etc. Now, this is a futile little exercise, as these shows bit-the-dust way back when, and aren't coming back. But, what i'm asking you is what they did wrong? And if you could re-write the show, but under the same premise, what would you do?

I'll take a perticuarly dire show: Aaron Spelling's Titans, which I thought was, or at least could have been, great fun. As I see it, it was simply too pedestrian. Everything in it had been done before, and more extreme (the Ex-Wife/New-Wife setup was unsustainable in itself).

What did the show need? Balls.

Here's my premise: the Williams family are the richest family in Beverly Hills, and to the high-society they inhabit, they are a fine example of the all-american family. Richard Williams is a political heavyweight, his ever-supportive wife Gwen - to whom he has been married forever - always at his side, and their four children (Peter, Chandler, Laurie and Jenny) all smiling advoates of the american dream.

To the world, at least.

Behind closed doors, Richard & Gwen's marriage is a sad and crumbling battleground; Peter is a machiavellian bastard, using sex to embody his status and control over housemaid Samantha Sanchez; Jenny is a mess, secretly being held in a rehab centre to deal with her addiction to drugs and alcohol, having barely survived a breakdown where she nearly killed herself; Laurie, the supposedly 'responsible' one, is in fact a power-crazed insecure girl, desperate to stop her sister seizing power in their buisness venture and in the family (it transpires that she was organising dealers to supply her sister with drugs); The youngest child, Chandler, is the only 'morally clean' member of the family. It is through him that we are introduced to the Williams dynasty, and it is from his level that we measure all of their problems (this also stops Casper Van Dien having to act, which, as it happens, he never does anyway...)

The whole thing is torn apart by the arrival of Heather Lane, a woman Richard has been having a long-standing affair with, but then tried to keep a secret. She blows the charade wide open for all of Beverly Hills society to see, and and she rocks the family name. Heather Lane Vs The Williams builds up to a sizzling climax, where she flips out and stabs Richard to death (all very Basic Instinct), but gets found not guilty for the murder (don't as me how), and somehow gets a share of the Williams family money. Gwen resolves herself to pull her family back together, and fight Heather.

There, how's that for balls?

MrsJREwing
08-02-2004, 01:01 PM
I loved the show. I thought it was wonderful. I even sent letters to cast members Perry King, Victoria Principal and Casper Van (whatever). I got back autograph pics from all of them. It was great. I was totally bummed when it want off they air. I think the show could have been saved if the producers and writers tried. JMO.

ChrisSumnerMatheson
08-02-2004, 04:58 PM
I haven't seen Titans, but I still have some comments.

Dallas, Dynasty and Falcon crest did not take the soaps out of daytime, Peyton Place, the original and long running primetime soap took them out of daytime. Its often forgotten, but people forget how groundbreaking it was.

They had the first black family in primetime AND they brought cliffhangers to primetime, NOT Dallas like people tend to believe.

Also, in the 90s, you mentioned the failed soap opera, but there were many new ones geared towards the younger audience that did very well.

Melrose Place, Beverly Hills 90210, Party Of Five, Dawson's Creek and the mega soap Popular all of which were very popular, and all soaps. http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

as for Titans being retooled and given another chance, networks just don't care enough to give any show a second chance it seems. Only the crappy ones like Tru Calling get a second chance.

Gianni
10-18-2004, 01:14 AM
Yes, Peyton Place is the granddaddy of all primetime soaps.

Toby
04-13-2005, 11:17 PM
I'll take a perticuarly dire show: Aaron Spelling's Titans, which I thought was, or at least could have been, great fun. As I see it, it was simply too pedestrian. Everything in it had been done before, and more extreme (the Ex-Wife/New-Wife setup was unsustainable in itself).

What did the show need? Balls.

Agreed. You can see the flaws in TITANS just by noting the name of the central family - Williams. Doesn't exactly have the same impact as the Carringtons, the Ewings, the Colbys or the Channings, does it?

Casper Van Dien of course is married to Catherine Oxenberg (Amanda in DYNASTY) and turned up in Paul Verhoeven's film Starship Troopers - a very funny piece of satire which posits Earth as a fascist state full of plastic pretty people who look like they should be in a turgid daytime soap and then having them ripped to pieces by alien bugs. Van Dien's Ken doll looks and inability to act being part of the joke.

Toby
04-17-2005, 09:08 AM
A rather good review of TITANS can be found here. (http://www.popmatters.com/tv/reviews/t/titans.shtml)

DynastyMan2001
04-17-2005, 07:07 PM
[QUOTE=Toby]Agreed. You can see the flaws in TITANS just by noting the name of the central family - Williams. Doesn't exactly have the same impact as the Carringtons, the Ewings, the Colbys or the Channings, does it?

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I will have to disagree on that comment, Toby. Those names were cool in the 80's but now they aren't that extravagant in my eyes, and those names matched the ME generation of the 80's and the world's fascination with the rich and famous. Look at The O.C., the central families names are Cooper, Cohen, and Nichols. Those are some common names and they can reflect the times as well too...just my humble opinion. I just think Titans was way before it's time. If it premiered now, it might would have had a better chance than it did then.

Mike
05-02-2005, 08:54 PM
John Barrowman is soon to be seen in this new series of Dr Who in the UK !

AaronA
05-05-2005, 12:41 AM
Glad someone mentioned that the 90's also had some prime-time soap hits - mainly 90120 and MP....remember, the networks in the 90's were not as patient with their shows as they were in the 70's and 80's when Dallas and Dynasty aired.....

As for Titans, it was a disappointment - nothing very original and the acting and writing were fair. In addition, NBC gave it an 8:00 timeslot which seemed odd.

James from London
05-05-2005, 12:51 AM
"One must distinguish between naïve and deliberate Camp. Pure Camp is always naive. Camp which knows itself to be Camp ("camping") is usually less satisfying."

I think this quote from Susan Sontag's "Notes on Camp" in some way highlights a key difference between the prime time soaps of the 80s and the likes of TITANS and maybe DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES.

Wendell2002
05-05-2005, 01:23 AM
The only way to "fix" it was to mercifully shoot it. Like a horse with broken leg, only in our case, the horse was born legless.

One of the worst shows I've ever seen. And I even watched Charmed, people.

jake_hanson
05-05-2005, 08:17 AM
I liked Titans, I think it was the second Soap Opera I watched, the first being Beverly Hills, 90210.