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Miss_Texas
10-06-2011, 08:42 PM
Anyone else watching this trial ?

The audio of the drugged out MJ was a bit shocking as was the fact that he had a catheter.

Interesting notes today as a coroner investigator and her "revised" notes on the vial of drug with the bag.

Pammy P
10-06-2011, 09:57 PM
I think Dr Conrad Murray is totally innocent. I believe and I am allowed an opinion, that he is being used as a scapegoat to cover up MJ drug addiction.

The Jackson family from what I have read in the UK tabloids did not have much contact with him prior to his death. This trial will rake in $$$$ for the Jackson family along with publicity, when in fact Dr Murray in my opinion is innocent.

Scarlett
10-07-2011, 03:12 AM
I think Dr Conrad Murray is totally innocent. I believe and I am allowed an opinion, that he is being used as a scapegoat to cover up MJ drug addiction.

The Jackson family from what I have read in the UK tabloids did not have much contact with him prior to his death. This trial will rake in $$$$ for the Jackson family along with publicity, when in fact Dr Murray in my opinion is innocent.

The radio says that Murray was never even paid for his services to MJ. He died before a payment was made. Murray's team should be making their defense soon.

Bobby'sgirl
10-12-2011, 07:09 PM
I think Dr Conrad Murray is totally innocent. I believe and I am allowed an opinion, that he is being used as a scapegoat to cover up MJ drug addiction.

The Jackson family from what I have read in the UK tabloids did not have much contact with him prior to his death. This trial will rake in $$$$ for the Jackson family along with publicity, when in fact Dr Murray in my opinion is innocent.

Then why did he allow his drug addicted patient to have a drug that is only legally allowed to be administered in a hospital, have cases of said drug sent to the home of his mistress so that she would sign for them instead of him, want a CPR machine and an assistant doctor for the tour if said drug addicted patient was so "healthy", and wait to call 911 until he had retrieved all the incriminating drug evidence at the scene? Whatever Michael's family did or didn't do to help him doesn't excuse Murray's highly unethical behavior and poor medical judgement. That's all on him, and he deserves to lose his medical license and do some jail time for it.

Pamela Barnes
10-13-2011, 11:01 PM
If Jackson wanted drugs he was going to get them, he was MJ after all. Everytime I see a Jackson interviewed about the death they seem to bring up the fact they are on tour, selling a DVD or whatever else. I think the whole thing is sad. The family sat on his coatails for years and continue to do so in his death. Now his children are starting a group.

Its all horrible.

Unregistered
10-14-2011, 01:49 AM
Michael Jackson is as much guilty as Conrad Murray. Let's be real here and set it straight. Michael is an Angel on an assignment. Conrad is part of the
issue. It's not up to any of us to judge. God has the final word.

Unregistered
10-14-2011, 02:52 AM
Anyone else watching this trial ?

The audio of the drugged out MJ was a bit shocking as was the fact that he had a catheter.

Interesting notes today as a coroner investigator and her "revised" notes on the vial of drug with the bag.


I agree Miss, and I was almost in tears. I just heard today that a naked picture of Michael's autopsy was shown in court.
I feel so bad for his mother. However, it might just prove a point by his body how far into the drugs he was.

Bobby'sgirl
10-14-2011, 10:32 PM
If Jackson wanted drugs he was going to get them, he was MJ after all. Everytime I see a Jackson interviewed about the death they seem to bring up the fact they are on tour, selling a DVD or whatever else. I think the whole thing is sad. The family sat on his coatails for years and continue to do so in his death. Now his children are starting a group.

Its all horrible.

Absolutely, parents buried a child, siblings lost a brother, and three young children lost their father. The problem is that if we as a society just continue to use the excuse "Well, he/she would have gotten the drugs anyway" instead of holding these irresponsible doctors accountable for their behavior, there will just be more and more Anna Nicoles and Michaels.

Dallasdaze
10-15-2011, 02:55 AM
Michael Jackson had a drug problem. Conrad Murray was just a glorified drug dealer. They both are to blame.

MrsSuperman93
10-27-2011, 07:06 PM
The sad truth is Michael Jackson's dead and we'll probably never know what really happened.
Blame doesn't lie solely on one person in something like this

Miss_Texas
11-07-2011, 08:06 PM
Verdict Reached! Awaiting jury to enter courtroom ...

Fajita Mel
11-07-2011, 08:19 PM
Holy crap. I did not see that coming.


Ehhh....he'll probably get probation. Rich people usually get a slap on the wrist if they're even convicted in the first place.

Bobby'sgirl
11-07-2011, 10:30 PM
Holy crap. I did not see that coming.


Ehhh....he'll probably get probation. Rich people usually get a slap on the wrist if they're even convicted in the first place.

Ah Melanie, you don't get probation when you are convicted of VOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER. He will serve up to 4 years in the big house. Not sure why you're so surprised by the verdict because the evidence of his gross negligence was rock solid and there was no way around that for him.

Fajita Mel
11-07-2011, 10:55 PM
I don't really understand your need to be sarcastic and patronizing to people.

Anyway, read the news reports again. It was actually involuntary manslaughter.

Scarlett
11-08-2011, 12:07 AM
I've been following this trial semi-closely. I'm not surprised that he was seen as guilty. I heard the prosecution did a much better job than the defense team. If all he gets is four years and loss of license, he gets off 'easy' IMO. This guy will eventually pick himself up, though he will be dealing with an eternity of bad publicity thanks to the trial and the unveiling, whether they are true or not.

I don't think Murray was the sole cause for MJ's death. MJ was addicted to several substances and he was going to get them from somewhere - not just Murray. Murray could be seen as the scapegoat, people were looking for someone to pin for his death.

I am sick of the Jackson family; all of them just trying to get money/publicity/something from MJ's death. If they loved him as much as they claim to, there would have been news of interventions before he died.

Sarah
11-08-2011, 06:53 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15624869

Michael Jackson's personal physician, Dr Conrad Murray, has been found guilty of the involuntary manslaughter of the star by a jury in Los Angeles.

A panel of seven men and five women took two days of deliberation to reach a verdict.

Michael Jackson died on 25 June 2009 from an overdose of the powerful anaesthetic propofol.

Murray, 58, could now receive a maximum prison term of four years and lose his licence to practise medicine.

There was a shriek in the courtroom as the verdict was read.

Outside the courthouse, the BBC's Peter Bowes said that at the moment the verdict was read, the crowd along the street erupted with cheers and chanting.

Jackson's family sat in the courtroom, weeping quietly.

LaToya Jackson told the Associated Press news agency the family was overjoyed at the verdict.

"Michael was looking over us," she said.

Continue reading the main story
At the scene

Alastair Leithead

BBC News, Los Angeles

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When the verdict was announced there was a stifled scream in the courtroom from the Jackson family entourage and a huge roar from the fans packed on to the pavement outside.

Police had to corral the crowds and shepherd the media from the main road as they gathered for the lunchtime verdict, crushed outside the court and clutching phones and touch pads to watch the announcement streamed live on the internet.

Some of the die-hard fans were in floods of tears as they celebrated the "relief" that "justice had been done".

The jury of seven men and five women took less than a day and a half of deliberations to find Conrad Murray guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

Murray was the man Michael Jackson entrusted as his personal doctor and the man who provided him with propofol - the anaesthetic drug he was using to get to sleep.

The die-hard Jackson fans will have nothing to do now the trial is over, after having gathered each day in tribute to the king of pop and taken part in a daily lottery for a seat in the public gallery.

But they'll be back at the end of the month when Dr Murray will appear again for sentencing - he faces a maximum of four years in jail.
During the trial, Dr Murray's lawyers argued that Jackson self-administered a lethal dose of the drug while he was out of the room.

Dr Murray was remanded in custody without bail until he receives his sentence, set for 29 November.

Explaining his decision, the judge said Dr Murray was now a convicted felon and had considerable ties outside the state of California, meaning he could not guarantee that the doctor would remain in the state.

Dr Murray sat silently in court, shifting slightly in his seat as the verdict was read out.

Court officers began to handcuff the physician as the judge made his final announcements, before leading him away into custody.

'Drug addict'

The jury - made up of one African American, six whites and five Hispanics - deliberated on Friday and through the morning on Monday.

Outside the court, fans of Michael Jackson were cheering and chanting, "Guilty! Guilty!" in the run-up to the verdict being announced.

During the six-week trial, 49 witnesses and more than 300 pieces of evidence were presented to the court.

Michael Jackson, who had been out of the public eye for several years, died in 2009 as he was preparing for a series of comeback performances at the O2 arena in London.

LA District Attorney Steve Cooley said the verdict sent a strong message
In his closing argument last Thursday, the prosecution said Dr Murray had caused the star's death through negligence, depriving Jackson's children of their father and the world of a "genius".

The defence argued that Jackson was a drug addict who caused his own death by giving himself an extra dose of propofol while the cardiologist was out of the room at the star's rented mansion in Los Angeles.

However, lawyers for Dr Murray dropped a key argument midway through the trial - that the pop superstar had drunk the propofol. But they continued to argue that Jackson had somehow dosed himself otherwise.

Each side of the trial called their own expert witness on the anaesthetic drug,

There is no law against administering propofol, but the prosecution's case rested on the argument that Dr Murray was grossly negligent by doing so outside a hospital setting and without the proper monitoring equipment.

In some of the more shocking moments of the trial, the jury heard a recording of Jackson, sounding incoherent and slurred, speaking about his upcoming concert series, as well as viewing a photo of a lifeless Jackson on a gurney.


He's guilty. At least of some part of it.

I hope they throw the book at him. We lost Michael way before his time, ok so maybe Conrad isn't the sole reason but from the reports not all was done to help Michael. Lock him up for a long time! Michael was the greatest entertainer of our time, it's all so very sad.

Sid Fairgate
11-08-2011, 07:29 PM
I've been following this trial semi-closely. I'm not surprised that he was seen as guilty. I heard the prosecution did a much better job than the defense team. If all he gets is four years and loss of license, he gets off 'easy' IMO. This guy will eventually pick himself up, though he will be dealing with an eternity of bad publicity thanks to the trial and the unveiling, whether they are true or not.

I don't think Murray was the sole cause for MJ's death. MJ was addicted to several substances and he was going to get them from somewhere - not just Murray. Murray could be seen as the scapegoat, people were looking for someone to pin for his death.

I am sick of the Jackson family; all of them just trying to get money/publicity/something from MJ's death. If they loved him as much as they claim to, there would have been news of interventions before he died.
Exactly right. Nobody has ever held Michael Jackson accountable his entire life, so why start now? Of course Dr. Murray did wrong, but that doesn't change the fact that MJ was his own worst enemy. And yes, where was the Jackson family when Michael was ALIVE and needed help? Thanks to this trial, they now get to enjoy their renewed 15 minutes of fame. Gotta love it!

Bobby'sgirl
11-08-2011, 10:03 PM
I don't really understand your need to be sarcastic and patronizing to people.

Anyway, read the news reports again. It was actually involuntary manslaughter.


I'm sorry if you took my comments the wrong way, but I was trying to explain the reality of what was going to happen to him and why to you, just like you pointed out my typing mistake to me.

MrsSuperman93
11-10-2011, 08:27 PM
I can't say I was very surprised they found him guilty.