Larry Hagman to be in new Dallas - signed and sealed

[Pamela Barnes]

We have been told by one of the Production team that today Larry agreed to the terms to appear in the new Dallas.

[Cliff Barnes]

Yayyyyy!!! Finally. Now we can move on and hear more good casting news I hope-and where it will film as well. I won't be thrilled if it's not really in Dallas-but as long as it has Hagman and Duffy then it has a chance whatever else happens.

[ProdicalSon]

Now that is great news. Can't wait to see the official announcement in the media.

[Tessie]

Of course he's going to sign on. It would be a disastrous start to the show if he didn't. Has anyone bothered to ask Ken K to be in this? Cliff was always more interesting.

[Pamela Barnes]

Of course he's going to sign on. It would be a disastrous start to the show if he didn't. Has anyone bothered to ask Ken K to be in this? Cliff was always more interesting.

No there isnt a Barnes in sight, they have reinvented some history, which is probably for the best.

[Tessie]

No there isnt a Barnes in sight, they have reinvented some history, which is probably for the best.

That's right, there wasn't a Barnes/Ewing feud on the show all those years. Silly me.

[Pamela Barnes]

That's right, there wasn't a Barnes/Ewing feud on the show all those years. Silly me.

Huh! Yes there obviously was on the original show but in this they have reinvented it somewhat.

[ProdicalSon]

I'm sure the door's always open once the series gets established for a Barnes to turn up (if the actor, K.K is interested). We are afterall, only dealing with a pilot episode right now.

[Pamela Barnes]

I'm sure the door's always open once the series gets established for a Barnes to turn up (if the actor, K.K is interested). We are afterall, only dealing with a pilot episode right now.

Yeah but one which has strayed quite far away from the Barnes. I was slightly disappointed with that to be honest but in retrospect I think perhaps it was a wise move. Initially they did have the Rebecca character as a Barnes but changed it.

[Tessie]

Yeah but one which has strayed quite far away from the Barnes.

That was my point.

[stavrogin]

Too bad- I think Larry is incapable of doing anything but deliver an over-the-top hammy performance.

[Laurie!]

No there isnt a Barnes in sight, they have reinvented some history, which is probably for the best.

Well, I'm officially not watching then. As Tessie said, Cliff was far more entertaining than J.R. Why even give this new show the Dallas label if they reinvent things? :rolleyes: Stay away from it Victoria...even if you're not invited. lol

Sincerely, the fortune teller to Victoria...aka, Laurie!...huge punctuation!

[Bobby'sgirl]

Too bad- I think Larry is incapable of doing anything but deliver an over-the-top hammy performance.

LOL, don't forget about his talent for collecting over-inflated paychecks. The next press release we'll probably see will be from him bragging about how much he held TNT up for.

[i love jr ewing]

That's great news I hope it's true.

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwXlZOTWjno

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Larry Hagman?? Why on Earth would they want him on the new Dallas??? Oh wait... I remember why!

[James II]

Thank-you Mrs Larry Ewing,
Those intimate times with Jock go a long way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzNdO3IzCHg&NR=1

[Jessie]

Great news, I'm really happy he is going to be on the new Dallas.. I hope Linda and Victoria sign up
too. If they recast Sue Ellen, and not offer it to Linda Gray, I probably won't watch. If she turned it down, that would be different. I would love to see Ken (Cliff) on the
show, I loved his character, along with Steve Kanaly (Ray).

[Sid Fairgate]

I think Larry has proven he's capable of delivering far more than just "hammy" performances, provided the writing is up to par.

However, that part about the Barnes family and reinventing history has me worried. If they start getting creative and changing things around to fit their vision, I won't bother watching. There's a lot I'm willing to put up with, but changing history isn't one of them.

The Barnes family should be represented one way or another, and it would be a big mistake to forget about them all together. I was once all for this show, but the more I hear about it, the more weary I become.

[Pammy P]

G8 Larry has signed up. I will watch 'now' since some of the original cast will make guest or cameo appearances. I grew up with the original cast and need them to be in it, to still be interested. Would love VP to reprise Pammy;s role and close of the character. But, hey ..... that will probably never happen,.

Go Larry!

[jej2252]

No there isnt a Barnes in sight, they have reinvented some history, which is probably for the best.


What do you mean by reinventing history? I don't mind any Barnes not appearing if this fits the plot but are you suggesting we pretend they never existed??

[Pamela Barnes]

What do you mean by reinventing history? I don't mind any Barnes not appearing if this fits the plot but are you suggesting we pretend they never existed??

No, Im saying that things have moved on and te Barnes/Ewing dynamic is no longer part of it. I wonder if part of this thinking is tied in with the fact that Ken is getting on in years and perhaps they dont feel too many old people is appealing to a younger audience. I feel thats a shame myself. On the otherhand Patrick is still relatively young so is perfect for more of a lead role.

[Swami]

I think Larry has proven he's capable of delivering far more than just "hammy" performances, provided the writing is up to par.

However, that part about the Barnes family and reinventing history has me worried. If they start getting creative and changing things around to fit their vision, I won't bother watching. There's a lot I'm willing to put up with, but changing history isn't one of them.

The Barnes family should be represented one way or another, and it would be a big mistake to forget about them all together. I was once all for this show, but the more I hear about it, the more weary I become.

Very true. If there isn't a Barnes in, as you say, it changes the whole history of the show.

Swami

[Miss Lush]

Yeah! Mr. Mean is back! :exit: :goodbad: :partytime

To celebrate that, his very first scene on Dallas:

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[anndra_w]

Regardless of whether there are any Barnes's in the new show I don't see how it will affect the history of the old one. The story of the Barnes's was a central part of the old show and that story has been told. We need a new fresh story to provide life for the show to continue in it's new format.

[Laurie!]

Regardless of whether there are any Barnes's in the new show I don't see how it will affect the history of the old one. The story of the Barnes's was a central part of the old show and that story has been told. We need a new fresh story to provide life for the show to continue in it's new format.

Why is it that "new" and "fresh" and "Larry", screams oxymoron to me? If Larry were capable of delivering anything new or fresh to the role of J.R. then I think we would have seen it when he hijacked the show during the last 4 years. If this means there's going to be more Cally Ewings and ridiculous range wars....then Larry and the powers that be...please do us all a favour and finally change the name from Dallas, like they should have the last few years of the series and the movies. :rolleyes:

[anndra_w]

Why is it that "new" and "fresh" and "Larry", screams oxymoron to me? If Larry were capable of delivering anything new or fresh to the role of J.R. then I think we would have seen it when he hijacked the show during the last 4 years. If this means there's going to be more Cally Ewings and ridiculous range wars....then Larry and the powers that be...please do us all a favour and finally change the name from Dallas, like they should have the last few years of the series and the movies. :rolleyes:

I'm pretty hopeful this version will be nothing like the final years of the original run. To be honest I'm hoping the most exciting characters in the new show will be the new generation and that JR will be in the back ground. I'd be more keen to see Bobby take on a central patriarchal role and JR there to stir things up occasionally.

[Luke]

I think this is actually bad news.

Hagman had a main role in Dallas turning from something great into something people laughed at. He admits whenever asked he was only working for the cash and appeared to care little about actual story. By the time Dallas whimpered off the air and in the movies, Hagman hammed J.R up and played his role like he was in a sit-com. I think his being on screen will be more of a distraction than a help. My only hope is they kill him off quickly and have some great supporting characters to carry on the legacy.

[Canyon340]

Of course Larry has to be in the show. However, as this is his 80th year it would be both implausible in terms of the scripts (and impractical in terms of his advancing years) for him to have anything other than a very limited role. The poster who berated Larry for his 'hammy' acting may have a point in terms of the show's last few years. However, over the Christmas holidays I re-watched the first 3 seasons and was reminded yet again of what a mesmerizing actor Hagman can be when the writing is up to par.

I am less thrilled by the fact that there is no Barnes connection. There is ample opportunity for this to have carried over into a third generation. It is such an integral part of the show that to airbrush it out seems like a very unwise thing to do.

All of this aside, I think that it is destined to be a very different kind of show in so many other ways that many diehard fans are perhaps unprepared for. The way it's shot will be radically different. Even by the middle of its run Dallas was something of an anachronism in that it was shot in a very traditional 'over the shoulder, medium shot, close-up' kind of way. There were lots of talking heads and and what, by today's standards, would look like interminable longueurs in offices and restaurants. So, at a formal level, the show will look strikingly different.

However, what impelled the show forward in the classic years was brilliant plots that were driven by equally compelling characterization. The point, then, is that content will be everything. If this new show can emulate some of that it has more than a chance of being a success.

[JRMAN]

Yayyyyy!!! Finally. Now we can move on and hear more good casting news I hope-and where it will film as well. I won't be thrilled if it's not really in Dallas-but as long as it has Hagman and Duffy then it has a chance whatever else happens.

I would rather have Cliff than Bobby, because I think that without Cliff we will be missing a lot of what Dallas was. Cliff was the best in the first half dozen seasons, when he was poor and fighting JR and trying to make a life for himself. The relationships Cliff had with JR, Pam and Afton were very interesting to watch develop. Cliff is very sympathetic. They could make a half hour show of him sitting on his sofa in an apartment eating Chinese food and I'd watch.

[Miss Lush]

Larry and Linda will be in a few scenes only. JR probably dies at the end of the pilot. Plus, the production people already said that the only one with a larger role is PD.
You guys act as if 80-year-old Hagman is going to take over the show...kinda ridiculous, IMHO.

[JRMAN]

over the Christmas holidays I re-watched the first 3 seasons and was reminded yet again of what a mesmerizing actor Hagman can be when the writing is up to par.

The first six or so seasons of Dallas blew me away. It is timeless. Other shows from that time period feel dated, but Dallas does not. When Dirty Sexy Money came on the air I hoped it would be given a chance to be like Dallas, but they killed the show.

[JRMAN]

Larry and Linda will be in a few scenes only. JR probably dies at the end of the pilot. Plus, the production people already said that the only one with a larger role is PD.
You guys act as if 80-year-old Hagman is going to take over the show...kinda ridiculous, IMHO.

Don't count Hagman out. The man is talented and that does not go away just because a person grows old. How old was Jim Davis when he was cast as Jock Ewing? I think it all depends on how much Hagman wants this role, or if he is just there for the paycheck. I believe this pre-production hold out for money could have been publicity to try and generate buzz about the new Dallas. Maybe Hagman was prepared to come back all along and just wanted to have some fun?

[stavrogin]

I would love it if Cliff and Afton's daughter started up the Barnes/Ewing feud again- if done right, that could be great. I loved all those feud moments. I don't think Cliff should do it, but someone new, yes. At the height of the Barnes/Ewing feud when they were all trading punches at the Ball- there was Pam, Mark, Cliff, Afton, and Katherine. Everyone was gone at the end but Cliff, who had done it by himself too often and it wasn't exciting anymore- but a new person, I would not mind seeing that- and again, if it was done right, it could be really exciting.

[Swami]

Don't count Hagman out. The man is talented and that does not go away just because a person grows old. How old was Jim Davis when he was cast as Jock Ewing? I think it all depends on how much Hagman wants this role, or if he is just there for the paycheck. I believe this pre-production hold out for money could have been publicity to try and generate buzz about the new Dallas. Maybe Hagman was prepared to come back all along and just wanted to have some fun?

Jim Davis was 67 when he was cast, 68 when filming began.

Swami

[Karin Schill]

This is wonderful news! I'll look forward to seeing JR return to our tv screens later this year along with the rest of the Ewings! :D

[Pamela Barnes]

I think this is actually bad news.

Hagman had a main role in Dallas turning from something great into something people laughed at. He admits whenever asked he was only working for the cash and appeared to care little about actual story. By the time Dallas whimpered off the air and in the movies, Hagman hammed J.R up and played his role like he was in a sit-com. I think his being on screen will be more of a distraction than a help. My only hope is they kill him off quickly and have some great supporting characters to carry on the legacy.

I see your point. Larry is doing an interview for the site this week so it will be interesting to get his take on the new script and how he sees the role progressing or not.

But without Larry they would be critised and with him the critics will say that he still has the JR magic and overshadow the John Ross character. So either way you kind of get left with a feeling of why bother.........

[jej2252]

Difficult to launch a new Dallas series without JR. He was, whether we like it or not, the centre of the major plots over the thirteen year run. He's come to symbolise the show.
Of course, the main challenge for the writers is to make sure his character does not steal the show as the storylines must follow the new generation. Sure they'll come up with something clever that allows JR to be in it without overshadowing every other character.
I am actually amazed at the amount of old characters returning. Presume most of these will make a brief appearance, maybe as guests to a wedding, as a nice reminder of the parent show. But the new show must have a fresh look if it wants to compete with current shows.

[Swami]

Forgive me for being cynical but given how the "movie" progressed, I will truly only believe there is some kind of new series when I see it. And even if it does manifest itself somehow, it will never be the same as the original.

Swami

[Pamela Barnes]

Forgive me for being cynical but given how the "movie" progressed, I will truly only believe there is some kind of new series when I see it. And even if it does manifest itself somehow, it will never be the same as the original.

Swami

Well it can't be the same as the original, thats been done. It will happen but I don't think it will go on beyond the pilot.

[Christine]

I am less thrilled by the fact that there is no Barnes connection. There is ample opportunity for this to have carried over into a third generation. It is such an integral part of the show that to airbrush it out seems like a very unwise thing to do.



I totally agree with you. What Pamela told us is really worrying me. I certainly don't need Cliff Barnes to be in the new Dallas (sorry Ken is really too old) but hello...Pamela Rebecca? She should definitely be one of the main characters on the new show. I was so looking forward to seeing the Barnes/Ewing feud again, now in the third generation. Re-inventing history? oh my god....

[Pamela Barnes]

I totally agree with you. What Pamela told us is really worrying me. I certainly don't need Cliff Barnes to be in the new Dallas (sorry Ken is really too old) but hello...Pamela Rebecca? She should definitely be one of the main characters on the new show. I was so looking forward to seeing the Barnes/Ewing feud again, now in the third generation. Re-inventing history? oh my god....

I think you are taking it out of context. This pilot really gives a huge nod to the past, its not been removed but the world has changed and this is a new generation which is less about old grudges but more about ego and ambition.

[Canon]

The Barnes/Ewing feud is over. Cliff's story was wrapped up in JR RETURNS. The new show won't go anywhere if its just telling the same old stories all over again.

[vaughnleland]

I think Kennyt should still be invited for guest appearances. Hell, next to J.R., Cliff was in the most episodes! an Kenny is far from retired. He just wrapped up a run in "White Christmas' in London.

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

I believe this pre-production hold out for money could have been publicity to try and generate buzz about the new Dallas. Maybe Hagman was prepared to come back all along and just wanted to have some fun?

Exactly...I doubt this was even Larry's idea to try to hold out again for money. Why would he? From what I understand, he really wants to keep acting. It's all about supply and demand and right now the new Dallas show does not NEED him. They are in control not vice versa like in 1980, but they do WANT him so they can gleen all the publicity they can for the new show and drag the old fans back who worshiped the orginal series. AND..from what I can tell from around here...it worked! :)

[Sid Fairgate]

The Barnes/Ewing feud is over. Cliff's story was wrapped up in JR RETURNS. The new show won't go anywhere if its just telling the same old stories all over again.
But to exclude the Barnes family all together is denying a part of the show's past. I'd still like to know why they decided against having the Pamela Rebecca character on the show.

[kas444]

They are in control not vice versa like in 1980, but they do WANT him so they can gleen all the publicity they can for the new show and drag the old fans back who worshiped the orginal series. AND..from what I can tell from around here...it worked! :)

Yep, If they want it to stand on it's own to feet, they need a strong backbone to start it off.

[jrs]

Exactly...I doubt this was even Larry's idea to try to hold out again for money. Why would he? From what I understand, he really wants to keep acting. It's all about supply and demand and right now the new Dallas show does not NEED him. They are in control not vice versa like in 1980, but they do WANT him so they can gleen all the publicity they can for the new show and drag the old fans back who worshiped the orginal series. AND..from what I can tell from around here...it worked! :)

I agree. I only watch dallas for JR but i dont want to see JR as a buffoon....or sleeping with someone young enough to be his great great granddaughter...boke

[stavrogin]

It's certainly possible it was all a publicity stunt- and for a cable show, they have managed to squeeze some press from it. Although if it was, it backfired on Hagman some- people aren't as in his corner as they were in 1980, he's going to have to prove he can play JR again in an interesting way- back then, there was no doubt he could- now it's not so cut and dry.

[Sid Fairgate]

I still think it's amazing how many discussions have taken place over Dallas projects that never seem to progress beyond the casting and script rumors. Not to say this show isn't going to happen, but look at the movie version. Six years of discussions over cast, director, and script changes, and nothing ever came of it. And before that, it was a proposed third reunion movie that VP was supposedly going to do.

Now the talk for the past two years has been about a proposed TV show that has only progressed to the point of casting three actors from the original show. After twelve years of speculation as to where Dallas will go from WOTE, it all really feels like much ado about nothing (literally).

[Swami]

I agree. I only watch dallas for JR but i dont want to see JR as a buffoon....or sleeping with someone young enough to be his great great granddaughter...boke

Well said.

Swami

[redy2swet]

I'm very excited. This is the best thing that could ever happen to Dallas fans. Our show is living on in a new an exciting version telling the story of a new generation of Ewings AND some original favs are joining them on the journey! Thank you TNT ... thank you Larry , Linda and Patrick for signing on ... I can not wait!

[garry]

I still think it's amazing how many discussions have taken place over Dallas projects that never seem to progress beyond the casting and script rumors. Not to say this show isn't going to happen, but look at the movie version. Six years of discussions over cast, director, and script changes, and nothing ever came of it. And before that, it was a proposed third reunion movie that VP was supposedly going to do.

Now the talk for the past two years has been about a proposed TV show that has only progressed to the point of casting three actors from the original show. After twelve years of speculation as to where Dallas will go from WOTE, it all really feels like much ado about nothing (literally).

Casting officially began in December last year with a memo attached for acting agecies stating that production would begin mid March 2011.

[jej2252]

Well it can't be the same as the original, thats been done. It will happen but I don't think it will go on beyond the pilot.


Why do you think it won't be picked up as a series? There might be huge interest in it!!

[stavrogin]

I'm very excited. This is the best thing that could ever happen to Dallas fans. Our show is living on in a new an exciting version telling the story of a new generation of Ewings AND some original favs are joining them on the journey! Thank you TNT ... thank you Larry , Linda and Patrick for signing on ... I can not wait!

We don't know for sure it's 'new and exciting.'- that's the hesitation.

[BJ Ewing]

Casting officially began in December last year with a memo attached for acting agecies stating that production would begin mid March 2011.

Garry,

Any word on where it will be filmed? Any chance they return to SF to film the exteriors?

[Christine]

But to exclude the Barnes family all together is denying a part of the show's past. I'd still like to know why they decided against having the Pamela Rebecca character on the show.

I am usually a fan of remakes/spin off's etc.. that are creative enough to bring us something fresh and new but still...I cannot picture Dallas without a Barnes character in it. They would not even have to make up somebody cause we already have Pamela Rebecca. So no. I don't get it. But so far we only know bits and pieces about the pilot, maybe they are going to bring her in later during the show..IF there is a show. Use the characters you have, this is all I am saying....

[Mike]

There's a lot I'm willing to put up with, but changing history isn't one of them.

But the original Dallas did that quite regularly :)


The story of the Barnes's was a central part of the old show and that story has been told. We need a new fresh story to provide life for the show to continue in it's new format.

Your absolutely right. The Barnes/Ewing feud is dead, long live the Christopher/JohnRoss feud !


Well it can't be the same as the original, thats been done. It will happen but I don't think it will go on beyond the pilot.

Your optimism knows no bounds Pamela ;)

[Pamela Barnes]

But the original Dallas did that quite regularly :)



Your absolutely right. The Barnes/Ewing feud is dead, long live the Christopher/JohnRoss feud !



Your optimism knows no bounds Pamela ;)

lol Mike. Well I think these shows that focus on 20 somethings have a really short shelf life. Original Dallas managed to integrate all these various age groups and make an interesting dynamic. The obsession with youth these days is rather unfortunate so we end up with something which falls into the Smallville genre. Its become a myth that older people are not appealing.

[Ray_Krebbs]

I think it's for the best to exclude the Barnes'. Cliff became rather annoying after a while, trying to destroy J.R. and looking like a moron when it all failed. In J.R. Returns he seemed to have gotten fed up with it all and wanted to reunite with Afton. I'd like to think they rode off into the sunset together with Becky. Perhaps a reference could be made down the road that they're living happily in another place.

[Mike]

I think these shows that focus on 20 somethings have a really short shelf life. Original Dallas managed to integrate all these various age groups and make an interesting dynamic. The obsession with youth these days is rather unfortunate so we end up with something which falls into the Smallville genre. Its become a myth that older people are not appealing.

When you say, short shelf life, are we talking 3,4 or may'be 5 series? The pilot episode is gonna be a real thrill for Dallas fans, anything after that, be it even just 1 or 2 series is going to be a real bonus. Even if the show isnt picked up after the pilot, and if the pilot can bring some closure and a proper ending for Dallas, then I think fans will be happy with that too. Your right about the demographic, it'll be tricky to keep younger veiwers hooked whilst also trying to please the older diehard fans, like ourselves ;)

[paddylad]

I Agree even if we just get the pilot then its the final reunion movie we have wanted to wipe out the dire WOE being the last chapter of Dallas. If the new series runs just 1 season much like Melrose Place/Kinight Rider/Bionic Woman it still a chance to see an update on the story, and if New Dallas is mini success like 90210 and we get 3-4 seasons then Yah!!! And heaven forbid we are optimistic and the new series gets around the ratings of WOE 8 million or Return to Southfork, 10 millipon then it will be one TNT highest rating shows and we may just get another loooong run and have a chance for everyones favourite characters to guest star ( ie Victoria!!)

[Karin Schill]

:good: You are so right whatever happens with this new show from now on it's a win-win situation for us Dallas fans! :)

I am so glad that WOTE won't be the end of Dallas since that ending sucked!

I actually like 90210. It's one of the few new shows I watch on Tv these days. The other two being Desperate Housewives and Bones. I don't think 90210 should have dropped Kelly though. The best storyline on the show was when Kelly and Silver's mom died. Kelly should have stuck around until Silver was out of high school at least...

anyway as for Dallas, I hope it will become more successful than 90210. It was originally so who knows maybe it can happen again?
If they'll make it to five seasons they will get syndication rights. So I suppose that is the goal...

[Pamela Barnes]

When you say, short shelf life, are we talking 3,4 or may'be 5 series? The pilot episode is gonna be a real thrill for Dallas fans, anything after that, be it even just 1 or 2 series is going to be a real bonus. Even if the show isnt picked up after the pilot, and if the pilot can bring some closure and a proper ending for Dallas, then I think fans will be happy with that too. Your right about the demographic, it'll be tricky to keep younger veiwers hooked whilst also trying to please the older diehard fans, like ourselves ;)

Thats the thing though, I think its a myth that young pretty people and simple scripts make for a show that attracts a younger audience. Most of us must have been young when we watched Dallas and I didnt sit there thinking that I wanted Larry Hagman to be a 25 year old hunk and Miss Ellie to be a 45 year old trendy mom. The one time Dallas ventrued out into the new direction tv was taking we ended up with James Beaumont.

[stavrogin]

I did feel like the James and Michele years were "Invasion of the Models," though obviously Linda Gray was hired because she was once a model and she turned out okay, and Victoria's looks as well I'm sure helped get her the job, as did Charlene's so maybe that's not really such a problem.

[paddylad]

Yes but unlike 90210 who have no original cast members and is just young people in late teens, Dallas has at least 3 original cast members ranging from 60-80 plus new
Bobby's new wife I imagine late 50's then we have John Ross and Christopher both early 30's and their love interests so it seems like quite a good mix, there has been no indication that this is going to be a youth show, plus the other shows on TNT although obviously will aim for 18-49 ratings like all networks are not youth shows and don't have teens in lead roles. The Closer is lead by Kyra Sedgewick age 45, men of a certain age cost in their 40's-50's, Southland a mixed cast with all age groups covered, Saving Grace Holly Hunter age 53, Hawthorne, Jada Pinkett Smith age 39. I honestly feel that the age thing is not an issue on TNT and the new Dallas is not going to look like the last 3 season with cally, James and Michelle. If it did I don't thin PD, LG and LH would be going back. But I guess we will see.

p.s 90210 I also think they made a mistake writing out Kelly and not making bigger roles for Donna and Brenda but I have got to like the new sat and like the show. Even with Dallas if the original cast disappear in the same 90210 fashion im hoping the new cast are as good as 90210 and can carry the show.

[Mike]

Thats the thing though, I think its a myth that young pretty people and simple scripts make for a show that attracts a younger audience. Most of us must have been young when we watched Dallas and I didnt sit there thinking that I wanted Larry Hagman to be a 25 year old hunk and Miss Ellie to be a 45 year old trendy mom. The one time Dallas ventrued out into the new direction tv was taking we ended up with James Beaumont.

I think it's a myth too, it's only old US tv excecutives who seem to think this way. I think Dallas & Dynasty were never intended for a teenage audience anyway, more like 25 upwards. I can remember the days before Neighbours and Home & Away hit UK tv screens, there were hardly any young people to be seen in British soaps such as Corrie, Crossroads or even Emmerdale Farm, everyone seemed so middle aged :)

[MrsSuperman93]

Yaayyy! Wonderful news to hear Larry's signed on!

[Tessie]

I'm intrigued that people think Ken is too old to come back. He's four years younger than Hagman.

[stavrogin]

I think because Ken can't hide his age under a big cowboy hat.

I think I'm one of the only ones who remember liking War of the Ewings more than JR Returns. Though I guess if I saw it again, I might hate it but I thought it was actually okay. it was certainly no more ridiculous than the last season of Dallas. I would rather Sue Ellen own Ewing Oil than Michele.

[Christine]

I'm intrigued that people think Ken is too old to come back. He's four years younger than Hagman.

It's because Ken seems to be so much older than Hagmann. In that age group people can stilll look very youthful but Ken - sorry to say that - is not one of them.
Once you hit the big 70 it's not important anmyore how old you really are but how old you come across. And Ken looks like he's 90 or something. Rough life style I suppose?
My ex boss is 76 and not looking a day older than 65. I'd sign him up for Dallas any day. :D

[Bobby'sgirl]

It's because Ken seems to be so much older than Hagmann. In that age group people can stilll look very youthful but Ken - sorry to say that - is not one of them.
Once you hit the big 70 it's not important anmyore how old you really are but how old you come across. And Ken looks like he's 90 or something. Rough life style I suppose?
My ex boss is 76 and not looking a day older than 65. I'd sign him up for Dallas any day. :D

Come on now, Ken certainly looks 75, but hardly "90 or something", and Hagman doesn't look any younger than him at all. They've both lived "rough lifestyles".

[Bobby'sgirl]

I think because Ken can't hide his age under a big cowboy hat.

I think I'm one of the only ones who remember liking War of the Ewings more than JR Returns. Though I guess if I saw it again, I might hate it but I thought it was actually okay. it was certainly no more ridiculous than the last season of Dallas. I would rather Sue Ellen own Ewing Oil than Michele.

Frankly neither can Hagman.

[jimmyk5769]

But the original Dallas did that quite regularly :)

I can see a new DALLAS series without a Barnes. I'd prefer there to be some of the Barnes family, but I can see it happening either way. What I can't see is changing the history of the show so as to not include any Barnes family members.

And Mike, the original DALLAS changed some things here and there, as almost all shows do unfortunately for the die-had fans who notice these things. But to change the BASIS of the original show (which was about two feuding families that were forced to learn to live as one due to the marriage of Pam and Bobby) is asking too much. That would be like a continuation of The Brady Bunch, with new and some original characters, but the writers erase the idea of the fact that Mike and Carol married with 3 kids already among them, and ask the viewers to pretend that they were always married and had six kids together. You can't rewrite the basic premise and ask viewers to accept it.

I will have to wait and see how that Revision of DALLAS History plays out before I decide how much of it I can swallow.

[ProdicalSon]

At the moment, we only have a script for a pilot episode. Yes there are no members of the Barnes family there for that. But I've heard in one draft there was mention of Cliff Barnes. So no they won't rewrite history. Barnes will just be somewhere else. When the show goes to full series (and according to an article there's little reason to believe it won't) there will be plenty of time to write the Barnes family in (if the story warrants it). I'd love to see Afton again, as Audrey Landers gets better looking with age.

[Laurie!]

Finally, men are being discussed about being too old for TV!

[anndra_w]

Finally, men are being discussed about being too old for TV!

Yeah we're just pretending it's an issue so over ripe women don't feel so bad!! hahaha!!:p

[Laurie!]

Yeah we're just pretending it's an issue so over ripe women don't feel so bad!! hahaha!!:p

LMAO, nope...the times, they are a changing! :D

[B.J. Ewing]

It's because Ken seems to be so much older than Hagmann. In that age group people can stilll look very youthful but Ken - sorry to say that - is not one of them.
Once you hit the big 70 it's not important anmyore how old you really are but how old you come across. And Ken looks like he's 90 or something. Rough life style I suppose?
My ex boss is 76 and not looking a day older than 65. I'd sign him up for Dallas any day. :D

Of course the years take their toll, but what is the difference between these guys? The 'old guy from the old show' and the 'old guy from the new show'?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_X-xjKrwhH4g/S0PzyVKU90I/AAAAAAAAAmE/UcZ3Jb6vD4Y/s320/Wolfman3.JPG
http://www.isarbote.de/1__seite/live_aus_hollywood/LA_KenmitPferd.jpg

I'm happy that older actors and actresses can still do what they love to do these days: act. It gives a character more soul, much better than all those people having plastic surgery etc. Ha! I mean: how about MICKEY ROURKE as a recast for Cliff?!? Yuck!

[vaughnleland]

thats an awsome comparison pic between Keenan as digger and Kenny with a beard.. looks liek they could be father and son easily!

[Tessie]

It's because Ken seems to be so much older than Hagmann. In that age group people can stilll look very youthful but Ken - sorry to say that - is not one of them.
Once you hit the big 70 it's not important anmyore how old you really are but how old you come across. And Ken looks like he's 90 or something. Rough life style I suppose?
My ex boss is 76 and not looking a day older than 65. I'd sign him up for Dallas any day. :D

I think they both look their age, and they've both had rough lifestyles, as someone else already pointed out. Frankly, I think Ken looks better than Hagman.

[sunshineboyuk]

Did Pamela also mention that the new pilot is set in the 25th Century? They will all be in space. Its set on Southfork but Southfork is a giant space ship. Linda is playing Sue Ellen, yes, but she's an alchoholic hologram.
Ice Cube is in it too apparently. So is Michele Forbes.

[pisces]

they rode off into the sunset together with Becky. Perhaps a reference could be made down the road that they're living happily in another place.

This is a soap, nobody lives happily ever after. The story has to continue......

[Christine]

Come on now, Ken certainly looks 75, but hardly "90 or something", and Hagman doesn't look any younger than him at all. They've both lived "rough lifestyles".
You should see my ex boss, my father in law and my step dad..they are all in the 75 age group and still so youthful looking...as I am surrounded by so many fit men in their mid 70's I guess I tend to compare everyone to them....
In my life, 75 is not old. Not to me. But Ken...yep, he's old. :D

[James II]

The Opening Scene is J.R.Dad Crowning Emperor John-Ross the Ewing Oil Empire.

[Bobby'sgirl]

You should see my ex boss, my father in law and my step dad..they are all in the 75 age group and still so youthful looking...as I am surrounded by so many fit men in their mid 70's I guess I tend to compare everyone to them....
In my life, 75 is not old. Not to me. But Ken...yep, he's old. :D

Yes, it's all about a lucky spin of the genetics wheel and taking good care of yourself. And yep, Hagman's old too.

[Jock Og]

I’m glad Larry has seen the light, not that I ever thought he wouldn’t. I am still fairly optimistic about ‘DALLAS 2.0’ and could we have a new series JR’less’? A possible deathbed scene along the lines of Bobby’s ‘Swansong’ would in no way be appropriate for good ole’ John Ross II.


The family is all gathered together, in the Southfork living room. It is the reading of Jock’s last will & testament, (a scene from season 5, DVD-6, 1982 – ‘83):

Harv Smithfield (the Ewing lawyer) holds up the legal document. He then says; “This is a copy of the last will & testament, Jock had me write. There’s one here for each of you but as in any formal instrument the wording is complex, so I have taken the liberty of preparing a summary of its contents, for you. I hope you don’t mind but I’d like to read it aloud.”

Bobby: “That’ll be fine Harv. Thank you!”

JR: “Let’s get started.”

Harv: “Very well. Jock wanted his will divided in three areas; Southfork, Ewing Oil, Trust Fund. We’ll take them one at a time.”

SOUTHFORK: “Miss Ellie full title and deed to Southfork as well as all future income derived from it will be placed in your name. In addition there’s some $50 million dollars in associated community property holdings, on which both your names have appeared. These will now revert entirely to you.”

TRUSTFUND: “Now Jock set up two trust funds. The primary fund makes provisions for the four Ewing sons, each of you; JR, Bobby, Ray & Gary. Each of you will receive the sum of $10 million dollars and Lucy since you have passed your 21st birthday you are also provided for, in this fund. You will receive $5 million. The money is to be used as the beneficiaries see fit. There is one exception. Gary your father instructed access to your share be limited, for the first four years, to use of the interest, in loan.”

Gary (an alcoholic and without Valene in attendance) looks bewildered.

JR: “I guess daddy was trying to help you Gary. Keep you from squandering your capital, on one of your weaker weekends.”

Ellie: “JR!”

JR: “Sorry mama!”

The reading continues:

TRUST FUND: “To provide for John Ross III and any other grandchildren Jock instructed me to set up a separate fund, out of which each grandchild, on his 21st birthday will receive an equal portion. The money will be divisible, by the number of grandchildren at the time. Now as to Ewing Oil. The provisions that Jock worked out for in this document are now null & void. They have been superseded by this codicil, which he wrote, while he was still in South America.”

JR: “Now Harv that’s hand written will it stand up in court?”

Harv: “A holographic document is sometimes better than a typed one. This was witnessed by Punk Anderson. Its fine and since it is in Jock’s own hand writing I will read it verbatim.”

EWING OIL: “I John Ross Ewing Senior being of sound mind and body do hereby add the following provisions to my last will & testament. It’s no secret that the company I built, some call it an empire is very precious to me; precious beyond anything in my life, save my dear wife Ellie & my sons. It is however that very precious that makes the choice of my successors an agonizing one. Gary & Ray although your place in my heart is just as large and shines just as bright as the place set aside for your brothers, neither of you has shown any aptitude or inclination for that matter for bidness. Therefore my choice of successor is narrowed to Bobby & JR. Sons this is addressed to you. It has been my cherished hope that one day the two of you might run Ewing Oil, as a team. That was my hope. Ewing Oil can have only one man at the helm. That’s got to be the man that wants it the most.”

Ellie: “Oh Jock no!”

EWING OIL cont’d: “Therefore upon my death I want an independent audit conducted, of all the company holdings. I want everything divided on paper, so that JR & Bobby each have control of exactly 50% of the total assets. Punk Anderson a fine oil man and even finer friend has agreed to act as administrator of my estate. After one year Punk will conduct a 2nd audit. Whichever son has managed to create the greatest gain for his half share of Ewing Oil will win 51% of the stock of the entire company and will be able to run it, anyway he sees fit. The loser in this contest will get 19% & the remaining 30% I want divided equally between Ray, Gary & Miss Ellie, to make sure that they will never be without a share of the profits, of the company I created, which incidentally must never be owned by anyone other than a Ewing. One final thing in the unfortunate event that before this year is up one son predeceases the other the remaining son will automatically inherit his shares & will take over the company.”

Everyone looks around at one and other before the camera moves to JR & Bobby.

JR: “Well Bobby to your good health and very long life.”

The two brothers’ toast to this, with Jock’s imposing portrait in the middle.

The frame freezes on Jock’s portrait. Fade to black, theme and then the credits.

[Pamela Barnes]

There will be an official announcement from TNT this week (or next) that Larry is back as JR.

[CarlD]

There will be an official announcement from TNT this week (or next) that Larry is back as JR.

Cool !! Sounds like a fall 2011 premiere at the earliest ???

[Pamela Barnes]

Cool !! Sounds like a fall 2011 premiere at the earliest ???

Filming starts in March, UD is going on set in April, so I guess it will be fall. Im not sure how the scheduleing works.

[Mike]

UD is going on set in April.


Wow that's gonna be something special :partytime

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

I am getting all tingly about this!!!

[Charro]

How long does it usually take for an American TV show to get to UK/Ireland? If its premiered in September 2011, how long would you say it would be until it is on UK/Irish screens?

[jej2252]

Sometimes there isn't a big gap. We'll see if a channel buys it over here.

[Mike]

We'll see if a channel buys it over here.

Im sure channel 5 or BBC 3 will be interested, or may'be even E4.

[jej2252]

Hope it is a Freeview channel as I don't have Sky.

[Karin Schill]

Filming starts in March, UD is going on set in April, so I guess it will be fall. Im not sure how the scheduleing works.

That sounds awesome! :)
I'm definitely excited about the new show...

[Charro]

Im sure channel 5 or BBC 3 will be interested, or may'be even E4.

Oh oh I hope BBC3 get it. No ads! Yay!

[Karin Schill]

I hope they will make a downloadable version available for fans living abroad. I wouldn't mind paying a small fee to watch the new episodes as long as I could keep up with the US and watch it ad free on my tv at home. I don't wanna wait for the Swedish tv channels to broadcast the show as I wanna watch spoiler free!

[ArmCharm]

DALLAS without JR i wudn't watch it. But since he is Heey !!!!!!! ArmCharm

[Donna Reed IS Ellie]

If the series lasts, I am sure Cliff will make an appearance. After all, he is Christopher's millionaire? billionaire? uncle. If there is a business battle between John Ross and Christopher, I can see him going to Uncle Cliff for some back-up. Or maybe just one of those "I want to know about my past" scenes where he goes to ask Cliff questions about Pam if they want to get sentimental.

[Pamela Barnes]

If the series lasts, I am sure Cliff will make an appearance. After all, he is Christopher's millionaire? billionaire? uncle. If there is a business battle between John Ross and Christopher, I can see him going to Uncle Cliff for some back-up. Or maybe just one of those "I want to know about my past" scenes where he goes to ask Cliff questions about Pam if they want to get sentimental.

That is EXACTLY what happened in one of the first non Cyntia Cidre scripts, well I say exactly. Becky was originally Becky Barnes (now Becky something else) and she married John Ross. Christoher was in a long term relationship with a rather ambitious woman and they had a 9 year old daughter (but the daughter is John Ross's), anyway during the pilot tensions explode into rather a huge battle between the cousins. Becky falls out with Cliff over John Ross, Afton is long gone after having some form of mental breakdown and her elderly mother Arliss picks up the pieces. Cliff dies and disinherits his daughter leaving everything to Christopher. Egged on by his rather cold and slightly mad girlfriend (soon to be wife) he picks up the gauntlet to battle with John Ross.

Anyway it was something like that, difficult to do it justice in a few lines.

[Karin Schill]

That sounds interesting. I like it except the part where Cliff dies, although I can see how that would work as a plot enabler for the next generations' big battle...I'd much rather have John Ross and Pamela Rebecca married than Christopher and Pamela Rebecca as they were cousins even if it was not by blood...

[Tessie]

What is with these women who sleep with every male member of the Ewing family? Ick. There are a lot of people in Texas, it's a big place.

[ProdicalSon]

That is EXACTLY what happened in one of the first non Cyntia Cidre scripts, well I say exactly. Becky was originally Becky Barnes (now Becky something else) and she married John Ross. Christoher was in a long term relationship with a rather ambitious woman and they had a 9 year old daughter (but the daughter is John Ross's), anyway during the pilot tensions explode into rather a huge battle between the cousins. Becky falls out with Cliff over John Ross, Afton is long gone after having some form of mental breakdown and her elderly mother Arliss picks up the pieces. Cliff dies and disinherits his daughter leaving everything to Christopher. Egged on by his rather cold and slightly mad girlfriend (soon to be wife) he picks up the gauntlet to battle with John Ross.

Anyway it was something like that, difficult to do it justice in a few lines.

Good thing that changed, as Arliss would have to be dropped or recast with the recent death of Ann Francis.

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

What is with these women who sleep with every male member of the Ewing family? Ick. There are a lot of people in Texas, it's a big place.

lol..Are you sure??? I also here that all men in Texas swim in pools with their cowboy hats on...only in the Lonestar state!!! :!

[Pamela Barnes]

Good thing that changed, as Arliss would have to be dropped or recast with the recent death of Ann Francis.

To be honest I dont think anyone would have cared if she was recast. I wouldnt know the actress if she came up to be in the street, which of course she now can't but point being that anyone could play the character.

I would of preferred that dynamic to the show, she was an aunt Maggie type (in my mind I see her being like Sookies gran in True Blood) but I can see why this all changed. We already had the landscape restricted using the Barnes, restricted from a creative point of view.

[stavrogin]

That is interesting in a way because obviously JR and Cliff were enemies like Digger and Jock were so their siblings marrying is like Pam and Bobby. That could work, but they'd have to really be in love and John Ross couldn't be the a-hole JR was or no one would care or want Becky to be with him. I would not have minded that. In a way, I don't want them to have a JR-type character on the show because JR's schemes were so clever and brilliant, it is just so hard to try to top them or come up with something he used to do.

[Tessie]

lol..Are you sure??? I also here that all men in Texas swim in pools with their cowboy hats on...only in the Lonestar state!!! :!

And bandannas, don't forget them.

[garry]

Larry Hagman has now confirmed himself that he has signed up to appear in the new Pilot. He will film his scenes in April.

He's described the recent report of him not signing on as a ploy by TNT to pay him less money!

[i love jr ewing]

That's great news Garry.

[Emilia]

Sounds good! Hope we can see the new Dallas in Finland too. I'm more than curious. :) Already know it won't beat the original, but let's give them a chance to prove it could work today also.

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

And bandannas, don't forget them.

Are you referring to the sexy man scarf??? :)



Larry Hagman has now confirmed himself that he has signed up to appear in the new Pilot. He will film his scenes in April.

He's described the recent report of him not signing on as a ploy by TNT to pay him less money!

Those bastards!!! How dare they do that to Him!!! :exit:

[dronica]

Sounds good! Hope we can see the new Dallas in Finland too. I'm more than curious. :) Already know it won't beat the original, but let's give them a chance to prove it could work today also.

I really hope that too :)

[Tessie]

Are you referring to the sexy man scarf??? :):

Yes, and also the shoestrings that Punk and others wore. lol

[#1 Sue Ellen Fan]

Sorry if I missed this earlier but is Afton (Audrey) going to be in the new show since her "Daughter" is in it??? It would make sense she woud be since she has a long hostory with Ewings and she is still smoking hot!!! I think she would bring a lot of past and future good story line tie ins!

[stavrogin]

I don't think anyone is sure that it is her daughter. Some here don't think it is. I thought it was, but now I'm not- after all, Rebeca is the middle name not the first of the daughter. Since Cliff is not part of the new show, it might not be her.

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

Yes, and also the shoestrings that Punk and others wore. lol

With the big hood ornaments attached? :)

http://www.utimco.com/funds/allfunds/2010annual/images/10-arlington2-icon.jpg

[Tessie]

With the big hood ornaments attached? :)

http://www.utimco.com/funds/allfunds/2010annual/images/10-arlington2-icon.jpg

Yep. lol

[Fajita Mel]

So there's an article on the TV Guide website that says the pilot script has JR locked away in an asylum, and he hasn't spoken a word in years.

What? Loudmouthed, outspoken JR? Now....what could have possibly made him go silent?

Or....is it all an act?

And Larry says JR will get out and cause more trouble....soooo....

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Larry-Hagman-Dallas-1028243.aspx

[garry]

So there's an article on the TV Guide website that says the pilot script has JR locked away in an asylum, and he hasn't spoken a word in years.

What? Loudmouthed, outspoken JR? Now....what could have possibly made him go silent?

Or....is it all an act?

And Larry says JR will get out and cause more trouble....soooo....

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Larry-Hagman-Dallas-1028243.aspx

It's more of a 'rest' home than asylum. But J.R won't be silent for long!

[ProdicalSon]

I was just going to post that. Oh well. Glad to see it in print.

[Somua2]

It will never happen of course, but I think the producers should get their minds out of soaps and get inspiration from projects like Godfather II

That was about changing times and the differences between father and son. Tragedy comes from virtues and good intentions that just seem to backfire.

John Ross is in his 30's now. He respects his father, but knows his faults and doesn't approve of many of his actions. He tries to be different and better. Being the "good guy" he loses battles and loved ones get hurt. He's intelligent, but wonders if he simply lacks his father's brilliance. He remembers his father's drive but can't seem to get anyone in his family to care about the present or the future of the family (short attention spans and lack of work ethic). In a strange way was his father right all along and is he simply less of a man? Will the Ewing days of greatness forever because he failed them?

JR wants to help, but his health is bad and his direction most of the time comes off like condemnation that tortures his beloved son. Like Jock, toward the end of his life, JR has to wonder if he "wasn't a very good father". And if he failed his father and the legacy he inherited.

[Pamela Barnes]

It will never happen of course, but I think the producers should get their minds out of soaps and get inspiration from projects like Godfather II

That was about changing times and the differences between father and son. Tragedy comes from virtues and good intentions that just seem to backfire.

John Ross is in his 30's now. He respects his father, but knows his faults and doesn't approve of many of his actions. He tries to be different and better. Being the "good guy" he loses battles and loved ones get hurt. He's intelligent, but wonders if he simply lacks his father's brilliance. He remembers his father's drive but can't seem to get anyone in his family to care about the present or the future of the family (short attention spans and lack of work ethic). In a strange way was his father right all along and is he simply less of a man? Will the Ewing days of greatness forever because he failed them?

JR wants to help, but his health is bad and his direction most of the time comes off like condemnation that tortures his beloved son. Like Jock, toward the end of his life, JR has to wonder if he "wasn't a very good father". And if he failed his father and the legacy he inherited.

I like the point you make here, if Im right, that is not to go with 1 dimensional soap characters. Sadly this won't be the Dallas we knew and loved in terms of characters, on paper they look very much like the characters we saw in JR Returns, a cliched badness. It will suffice for the fans and it falls into typical soapy genre but clever it isnt and thats my disappointment.

[alexis]

Regardless of whether there are any Barnes's in the new show I don't see how it will affect the history of the old one. The story of the Barnes's was a central part of the old show and that story has been told. We need a new fresh story to provide life for the show to continue in it's new format.

Exactly my thoughts the old show stopped a very long time ago, what happened if Cliff died in this time? lol they would just have to find another fued, I think it would be fun to have a new fued start in the begining of this season and then the clif hanger involving the barnes, in some way

[ProdicalSon]

Exactly my thoughts the old show stopped a very long time ago, what happened if Cliff died in this time? lol they would just have to find another fued, I think it would be fun to have a new fued start in the begining of this season and then the clif hanger involving the barnes, in some way

Remember, you can't have a cliffhanger without a cliff. It would just be a hanger.

Cliffhanger...Cliff Barnes.
Sorry couldn't resist. LOL

[alexis]

Remember, you can't have a cliffhanger without a cliff. It would just be a hanger.

Cliffhanger...Cliff Barnes.
Sorry couldn't resist. LOL

lol very good! lol

[Somua2]

One real opportunity they have is the natural tendency of children to try to move opposite their parents. You could have Christopher love his father, but identify more in some respects with JR in terms of business. That would put understanding Bobby in an interesting predicament. If John Ross has difficulties because he does not follow his father's model it would be natural for Christopher to push because he fears John Ross is running the family business into the ground. Lots of conflict and conflicted feelings by family members.

If Christopher has his own achilles heel by say being too rash or hot headed (Sonny Corleone was generally a good warrior but...) or maybe precisely because he's Bobby's son he thinks he's so virtuous he just can't see his faults. No one gets to be entirely right. They just have to struggle through life like everyone else but on a bigger and more dangerous scale.

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

One real opportunity they have is the natural tendency of children to try to move opposite their parents. You could have Christopher love his father, but identify more in some respects with JR in terms of business. That would put understanding Bobby in an interesting predicament. If John Ross has difficulties because he does not follow his father's model it would be natural for Christopher to push because he fears John Ross is running the family business into the ground. Lots of conflict and conflicted feelings by family members.

If Christopher has his own achilles heel by say being too rash or hot headed (Sonny Corleone was generally a good warrior but...) or maybe precisely because he's Bobby's son he thinks he's so virtuous he just can't see his faults. No one gets to be entirely right. They just have to struggle through life like everyone else but on a bigger and more dangerous scale.

I like it! Plus add in to the equation the slight chance that Christopher really is JR's and now it gets really fun and complicated!

[Somua2]

Try this one on for size. Sue Ellen could be a really important character in a way she never was before. She and JR aren't kids. It's not about romance anymore.

She's never entirely forgiven him, but she understands him better with age and experience. At some unspoken level she even feels sorry for him as the product of an emotionally abusive upbringing.

JR has aged into Jock in some respects. He's actually sorry he didn't treat Sue Ellen better. He can even say it to her because with all their history and some lingering resentment on her part, she's his only real friend and confidant. He confesses his doubts about his performance as a father to Sue Ellen from his sick bed in almost the same words Jock did to Ellie. Not because he remembers them (he wasn't there) but just because he and Jock have had similar lives and are left with similar regrets.

Underneath the disagreement (basically John Ross is repudiating JR's whole life and value system) and abrasive meddling JR supports his son in part because he feels guilty about how he treated his mother. John Ross is deeply hurt and Sue Ellen herself is more than a little surprised when she chastises him from the bottom of her soul revealing that she wishes that John Ross was more like his father.

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

Try this one on for size. Sue Ellen could be a really important character in a way she never was before. She and JR aren't kids. It's not about romance anymore.

She's never entirely forgiven him, but she understands him better with age and experience. At some unspoken level she even feels sorry for him as the product of an emotionally abusive upbringing.

JR has aged into Jock in some respects. He's actually sorry he didn't treat Sue Ellen better. He can even say it to her because with all their history and some lingering resentment on her part, she's his only real friend and confidant. He confesses his doubts about his performance as a father to Sue Ellen from his sick bed in almost the same words Jock did to Ellie. Not because he remembers them (he wasn't there) but just because he and Jock have had similar lives and are left with similar regrets.

Underneath the disagreement (basically John Ross is repudiating JR's whole life and value system) and abrasive meddling JR supports his son in part because he feels guilty about how he treated his mother. John Ross is deeply hurt and Sue Ellen herself is more than a little surprised when she chastises him from the bottom of her soul revealing that she wishes that John Ross was more like his father.

I have always said Dallas mirrored the Godfather Saga's. Excellent anaylsis of character and a very common sense appoach to how real people would act with age and experience. Something I can appreciate..because I am old. :)

[Somua2]

I really didn't fully address your idea. It's really good.

Dallas was about an emotionally neglected son trying to earn the love of his father. Christopher could be craving JR's approval as his true father in more than just DNA. All JR can seem to think about is his beloved arguably undeserving John Ross. Christopher goes farther and farther down dangerous roads trying to prove himself and earn his Daddy's love.

Ironically the more he emulates JR the less JR approves. Without being conscious of it, seeing the reflection of the reckless JR that lost the company name, almost got John Ross murdered etc. is something that hurts and enfuriates JR. Without being conscious of his unfairness, JR is blatantly hypocritical in the extreme. Christopher and by collateral damage John Ross and others pay the price.

[Fajita Mel]

I think I need to watch The Godfather saga. I like the sound of that angle better.

[Miss Lush]

I have always said Dallas mirrored the Godfather Saga's. Excellent anaylsis of character and a very common sense appoach to how real people would act with age and experience. Something I can appreciate..because I am old. :)

Ha Ha! :! :lolo: :hello:

I think a "changed" JR would be interesting albeit a bit unfamiliar. But as JR's a minor character only, we'll probably get the changed and wiser version, since he doesn't have to push the storylines anymore. That's John Ross' part now. I think JR will be there mainly to help and advise John Ross, who'll turn out either as Michael (even worse than his mean father) or as Fredo (a complete failure).

Although I'm certain that John Ross will become the new evil master of the universe, I think I'd be more interested in seing how old man JR would deal with John Ross as the 'ultimate failure'.

[Somua2]

I could see a great argument with Sue Ellen (not too hot because she doesn't want to accidently push JR into a stroke or heart attack like happened with JR and Jock). JR defending John Ross because his son is adapting to changed times (maybe the Chinese or other foreign competition is wiping the floor with the company in South East Asia) and blaming others, having criticized Christopher over time along the lines of "at least with John Ross we'll have a Ewing Oil in ten years" or "he's going to get John Ross killed", not realizing he's really beating himself up (JR was noted for his blind spots). Asking Sue Ellen what kind of mother she is cutting down her own son.

Sue Ellen saying that she doesn't know what kind of mother she is and that what Christopher has done may not have been right. But he's right for that family. And whatever his good intentions, John Ross isn't his father just because he has some cheap girl for a mistress.

I think the key is to have an actor who can pull off a bit of a Michael C./Don Draper/JR. A character with ability, significant successes and some form of charisma, but with insecurities and maybe lacking some characteristic necessary for long term survival (as you recall, in the case of Michael, the money lived on but both his "families" were pretty much destroyed).

The Bobby character might even have a chance to act because he would be in a world of hurt. He could give some bittersweet emotional and even financial support to John Ross, but in a real way he would have lost his own son (without even the comfort of blaming JR) and even he would be wondering if his way of running the company and his immediate family might turn out to be their downfall.

[Swami]

I read on RTE's Aertel that Larry apparently has agreed to return and JR will be a patient in a psychiatric hospital.

And that just sounds dire.

Swami

[Miss Lush]

I read on RTE's Aertel that Larry apparently has agreed to return and JR will be a patient in a psychiatric hospital.

And that just sounds dire.

Swami

Already posted that in the sub-forum, I'm posting it again now because I'd like to add something:


I like it! That's how he was supposed to end up! He is the baddie, generally the baddie loses everything in the end. At the end of the original series he was finished and ready to pull the trigger. Great storyline but they ruined it with the reunion movies...

Now in the new series he not only lost his beloved EO company and part of his power and family but also his mind! That's a cool storyline, because that's what JR was all about - a superior mind - and that is gone now too. It will be interesting to see how and because of what/whom he comes out of this pitiful state and if it changed him and his views.

I'm a huge JR fan...for me there are only two ways how to handle the character:
JR as the king of the world or JR completely down and out. The worst thing for me would be JR as an also-ran, because that's the one thing he never was.

Also with a 'mellowed' more Jock-like JR there is a chance for a bit of a JR/SE storyline because I assume that there won't be much interaction between them if they are completely at odds with each other. Somehow I don't see them at each other's throats 24/7 like they were in the old series.

[Somua2]

I think there's an opportunity for Sue Ellen to be a very central character. The boys will be fighting. JR and Bobby will be reacting largely out of old habits.

Sue Ellen can be the one who really cares for all of them, understands what makes them tick and how they can only thrive if they work together. She can be the strength of the family that keeps it from flying apart entirely.

The true heir to Ms. Ellie. Important and respected by all, but without sufficient power to entirely fix things all by herself.

[Swami]

To me it just sounds like a total farce.

Swami

[Somua2]

To me it just sounds like a total farce.

Swami


Yeah, the reality is that I think they're living in the past and they'll probably embarass themselves.

Sure there's still a lot of crap on. But TV at its best is in the age of Mad Men, The Shield etc. Even science fiction and horror have really stepped up with Battlestar Galactica and The Walking Dead.

I really don't get it. It costs about as much to put out a inferior product as it does a really good show. Don't they have any pride or respect for the audience and the piece of art (despite its disappointing seasons and bad ideas) Larry Hagman and others made Dallas into?

The hard core fans have waited a long time for this. There's huge creative and commercial potential. Even people from the general viewing public talk about the show with respect. It will be a real shame if as appears, they just want to make a quick buck by turning out a hack product.

[Somua2]

This is the kind of review I wish the new Dallas would aspire to:

"2. "The Sopranos," HBO. You can make an argument that "The Sopranos" is the most important television series ever. It made great television a mandatory requirement for any cable channel seeking an audience. It cemented HBO as a must-have pay channel. It fueled the creative renaissance of all dramas - cable and network. And it cleverly fooled people into thinking that they were watching a violent story about the mob when they were really watching a married couple come undone as they dealt with each other and their extended families. A neat trick, that. The writing, acting and directing set a standard still trying to be matched everywhere on the small screen."

The Dallas brand is still really valuable. They have the clout to compete in this league if they only had the ambition.

[garry]

To me it just sounds like a total farce.

Swami

It's not written as a farce. We're not taking J.R in the nut house as seen in the final Dallas season; it's not like that.

[Swami]

It's not written as a farce. We're not taking J.R in the nut house as seen in the final Dallas season; it's not like that.

I hope you're right - but I don't think you could blame anyone for being a tad cynical about this.

Swami

[paddylad]

I can't believe how negative a lot of people seem to be about the new series. I could understand if the series at ended on a high creatively and in the ratings and the thought of the series legacy being destroyed was an issue. However, lets face it show went down hill the season VP left and then after LG left the last two seasons were bad. They simply drained the cash cow for everything it was worth. ( I am not complaining I would have watched another season with just LH left!!) The reunion movies were not great either, with WOTE being particular bad and poor rated. This is were Dallas left, at a creative low and at their lowest rating and public interests being zilch.

The new show has a chance of been better written, better rated etc. I really would have thought people on the forum and this site would have been go mad for it. But the forums seem a bit negative and even there site doesn't seem that excited. Just an opinion but I say lets all get behind it 100%!!! Would love to see the main site having a big section about new show with links to all the new articles etc. .

[Sid Fairgate]

I think the fact that the later seasons and reunions were so poor creatively is a reason why so many people are skeptical of the new series. They're simply expecting more of the same.

[Swami]

I think the fact that the later seasons and reunions were so poor creatively is a reason why so many people are skeptical of the new series. They're simply expecting more of the same.

Plus this just seems to be some kind of pastiche they're creating of Dallas - which is even worse.

Swami

[Pamela Barnes]

It's not written as a farce. We're not taking J.R in the nut house as seen in the final Dallas season; it's not like that.

Its not written as a farce no but it certainly has undertones of the type of comedy we saw after Sue Ellen shot him. Something slightly OTT and out there but on this occassion they kind of get away with it due to the serious context.

[Pamela Barnes]

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The new show has a chance of been better written, better rated etc. I really would have thought people on the forum and this site would have been go mad for it. But the forums seem a bit negative and even there site doesn't seem that excited. Just an opinion but I say lets all get behind it 100%!!! Would love to see the main site having a big section about new show with links to all the new articles etc. .

Paddylad it really and truly doesnt have a chance to reach the heights of original Dallas.

[Swami]

Paddylad it really and truly doesnt have a chance to reach the heights of original Dallas.

That is something of an understatement. It has all the hallmarks of the movie project and it didn't go too far, did it?

Swami

[stavrogin]

I can't believe how negative a lot of people seem to be about the new series. I could understand if the series at ended on a high creatively and in the ratings and the thought of the series legacy being destroyed was an issue. However, lets face it show went down hill the season VP left and then after LG left the last two seasons were bad. They simply drained the cash cow for everything it was worth. .

That is one of the problems, this could simply be just more draining of the cow. We'll have to see. It's easy to be skeptical because the 2 reunion movies weren't that great and were just a continuation of the bad. Once bitten, twice shy. The leaks aren't that promising to me, I for one am not getting my hopes up.

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

WOW!! This is a sticky..that ought to tell you something!


http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/dvanhorn32/untitled-6.jpg

[ProdicalSon]

One thing's for sure, is being on TNT, the show doesn't have to pull in the numbers that the show used to have to pull in to be considered a success. Even with ratings similar to the reunion movies that will make the show a success for a cable network like TNT.

But I think we may be pleasantly surprised as we see the show unfold. "Cane" certainly had a dark quality to it, and I think if it wasn't hurt by the writer's strike, it may have been given a chance to grow and find its audience.

[Sid Fairgate]

With filming supposed to take place in April, I'm surprised there haven't been any further casting developments outside of the original cast.

[jej2252]

The 'Dallas' legacy, whether we fans like it or not, is one of an OTT show, with big hair and big shoulderpads, silly storylines... That's what the general public remembers. Not the quality of the first seasons.Talk to people and see them smirk when you mention 'Dallas' and try to defend it!!! So any 'recreation' or 'continuation' of 'Dallas' will include that OTT element.

[paddylad]

It just see it a win/win for Dallas. The last dvd will be out soon and then that would have been it. Doubtful there would be any more reunion shows with cast so Dallas would have be over. Nothing new to talk about. Now we have the chance of a brand new series. All the negative people and doomsayers have made judgment on the very most a draft copy of the pilot. Most people have not even seen that. I can't see what sounds so bad so far. We have the 3 main original cast members on board, the chance of cameos from others if the pilot stays as is and it seems the pilot is using all the elements of JR Returns we liked i.e. main cast and next generation mixed together. Plus we have the elements of race and class wars with the Latino characters. Yes there is no Barnes and no Pam but hey so far I say at least stay positive again even if we only get the pilot that can't be any worse an ending then WOTE!!!!

[ProdicalSon]

Plus who knows what direction the series will take if/when a full series order is picked up. It will open the door to revisit a lot of things while at the same time moving forward.

[jrs]

i detest the thought of a new series..unless JR is shown as the patriarch of the family...not in a nuthouse, not a buffoon...but as slightly calmer but still ruthless ..sitting back watcing john ross and christopher run the business

this new generation..it should be shot like the epic the show should have been

and whilst JR plays an important part...i dont wanna see him shagging some 20 year old...i would like him to have past all that..(Albeit he's allowed to look lol)

he should take on a Jock like role...as someone earlier suggested

the main roles should be played by actors/actresses who will draw the audience in regardless of JR being in it....so the new show could take on a life of its own...and become successful in its own right..not piggybacking on success of the earlier shows

[Bobby'sgirl]

i detest the thought of a new series..unless JR is shown as the patriarch of the family...not in a nuthouse, not a buffoon...but as slightly calmer but still ruthless ..sitting back watcing john ross and christopher run the business

this new generation..it should be shot like the epic the show should have been

and whilst JR plays an important part...i dont wanna see him shagging some 20 year old...i would like him to have past all that..(Albeit he's allowed to look lol)

he should take on a Jock like role...as someone earlier suggested

the main roles should be played by actors/actresses who will draw the audience in regardless of JR being in it....so the new show could take on a life of its own...and become successful in its own right..not piggybacking on success of the earlier shows

Let's be realistic here, the only people who are going to watch the pilot are fans of the original show and they will be tuning in to see their favorites from the original cast, not the actors who are cast in the roles that they don't really care about. Duffy, Gray, Hagman, and anybody else from the original cast that TNT can convince to do a cameo are "who will draw in the audience" until word of mouth spreads about the show and convinces non-fans to start watching. So actually "piggybacking on success" does indeed need to occur in order for "the new show to take on a life of it's own".

[redy2swet]

I disagree ... I love Linda, Larry and Patrick but they no longer can attract high ratings ... I'm excited they are on it but just as excited to see what happens with the new storylines and cast. The girl from fast and furious was cast over the weekend ... she seems like a nice addition. I always liked her ... looking forward to see what they do with the John Ross and Christopher casting.

[Bobby'sgirl]

I disagree ... I love Linda, Larry and Patrick but they no longer can attract high ratings ... I'm excited they are on it but just as excited to see what happens with the new storylines and cast. The girl from fast and furious was cast over the weekend ... she seems like a nice addition. I always liked her ... looking forward to see what they do with the John Ross and Christopher casting.

Although the ratings won't be anywhere near those of the original, yes, the 3 of them are indeed going to be one of the key factors in the success of the show. Their continued prescence on the show is needed to keep the neccessary orginal Dallas fan base, who don't even know or care who the rest of the cast is, watching the show. I know I'll stop watching the show if the 3 of them aren't on it on a regular basis because it won't be Dallas anymore.

[jej2252]

Any true Dallas fan would be interested in a continuation of te Ewing saga, whether JR, Bobby, Sue Ellen or even Raoul and Teresa are in it or not!!!
Nice to see the link between the old show and the new one but I am dead excited to see what the youngens do!!!

[Bobby'sgirl]

Any true Dallas fan would be interested in a continuation of te Ewing saga, whether JR, Bobby, Sue Ellen or even Raoul and Teresa are in it or not!!!
Nice to see the link between the old show and the new one but I am dead excited to see what the youngens do!!!

Thank goodness TNT knows better and Bobby is going to play a major role in the pilot. There has to be a good balance between the older and younger generations for the show to be successful and TNT appears to understand that. I seriously doubt I'm the only "true Dallas fan" that will stop watching if that balance isn't there.

[A House Divided]

BBC are now reporting it:

Larry Hagman to return for new Dallas series

2 February 2011 Last updated at 08:55

US actor Larry Hagman is to appear in a TV remake of classic 1980s soap opera Dallas, it has been announced.

The 79-year-old will reprise his role as oil baron JR Ewing in the new pilot, to be made by US network TNT.

Original stars Patrick Duffy and Linda Gray will also return to play Bobby and Sue Ellen Ewing respectively.

The new show will focus on the Ewing offspring - John Ross and Christopher Ewing - as they clash over the future of the family dynasty.

Desperate Housewives star Josh Henderson will play John Ross, played by child actor Tyler Banks in the original.

Jordana Brewster from The Fast and the Furious will play Elena, a character involved in a love triangle with the Ewing cousins.

Cynthia Cidre, who wrote 1992 film The Mambo Kings, has written the pilot for the next-generation update.

TNT has not confirmed when production will commence.

The original Dallas, which centred on two feuding Texan oil families, ran from 1978 to 1991 on US network CBS.

In 1980, 83 million viewers tuned in to find out "who shot JR" in one of the show's famous cliffhanger storylines.

In 2006 it was announced that Britain's Gurinder Chadha would direct a film version of Dallas, to star John Travolta in the JR role.

Little has been heard about the project since, though in a 2008 interview Chadha remained optimistic the film would eventually be made.

"Projects get resurrected and I like to think good scripts never say die," she told UK newspaper Metro.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12342985

[ProdicalSon]

Funny how that article mentions Tyler Banks as the one who portrayed John Ross in the original series, when in fact Omri Katz played him for far longer, and is much more associated with the role.

[A House Divided]

The new DALLAS remake is getting a lot of media coverage today:

Oil’s Well That Ends Well: ‘Dallas’ Stars Will Return in TNT Sequel
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/02/oils-well-that-ends-well-dallas-stars-will-return-in-tnt-sequel/

'Dallas' pilot reunites Larry Hagman, Patrick Duffy, Linda Gray
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2011/02/dallas-pilot-reunites-larry-hagman-patrick-duffy-linda-gray/1

Larry Hagman, Linda Gray, Patrick Duffy returning to 'Dallas'
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/02/larry-hagman-linda-gray-patrick-duffy-returning-to-dallas/

"Dallas" veterans sign on for TNT remake
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/02/us-dallas-idUSTRE7111B420110202

[ProdicalSon]

Well I guess the lid is officially off and the publicity train is in motion!!!!

[Sarah]

Yes, here is the BBC link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12342985

All my friends were sending it to me today... :)

[Mr JR Ewing]

I for one am elated that they are making this Dallas reboot. Haven't we pretty much rehashed all there really is to be said about our beloved iconic Dallas? And now, 20 years after the show ended, we are getting the opportunity to watch and discuss a potentially new show that will costar 3 of the main characters from the original. At worst, it will be a one-off reunion "movie." And who knows, it may be an excellent show that goes on for a number of seasons that will give us something more to talk about for years to come.

[ProdicalSon]

I for one am elated that they are making this Dallas reboot. Haven't we pretty much rehashed all there really is to be said about our beloved iconic Dallas? And now, 20 years after the show ended, we are getting the opportunity to watch and discuss a potentially new show that will costar 3 of the main characters from the original. At worst, it will be a one-off reunion "movie." And who knows, it may be an excellent show that goes on for a number of seasons that will give us something more to talk about for years to come.

Exactly. I have always wondered what the Ewings would be up to today. With Michael Robin attached at director, I can only hope we get 7 years out of the show like they did with "Nip/Tuck" & "The Closer". It's well known that TNT has a lot invested in this series, and that all signs point to a full series order being picked up. With that in mind, depending on the ratings, I can see them pushing 5 years (or enough to reach the syndication mark of 100 episodes). So we'll see.

[Mrs. JR Ewing]

I for one am elated that they are making this Dallas reboot. Haven't we pretty much rehashed all there really is to be said about our beloved iconic Dallas? And now, 20 years after the show ended, we are getting the opportunity to watch and discuss a potentially new show that will costar 3 of the main characters from the original. At worst, it will be a one-off reunion "movie." And who knows, it may be an excellent show that goes on for a number of seasons that will give us something more to talk about for years to come.

True dat, JR!!!! :)

[Swami]

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US actor Larry Hagman is to appear in a TV remake of classic 1980s soap opera Dallas, it has been announced.

The 79-year-old will reprise his role as oil baron JR Ewing in the new pilot, to be made by US network TNT.

Original stars Patrick Duffy and Linda Gray will also return to play Bobby and Sue Ellen Ewing respectively.

The new show will focus on the Ewing offspring - John Ross and Christopher Ewing - as they clash over the future of the family dynasty.

Desperate Housewives star Josh Henderson will play John Ross, played by child actor Tyler Banks in the original.

Jordana Brewster from The Fast and the Furious will play Elena, a character involved in a love triangle with the Ewing cousins.

Cynthia Cidre, who wrote 1992 film The Mambo Kings, has written the pilot for the next-generation update.

TNT has not confirmed when production will commence.

The original Dallas, which centred on two feuding Texan oil families, ran from 1978 to 1991 on US network CBS.

In 1980, 83 million viewers tuned in to find out "who shot JR" in one of the show's famous cliffhanger storylines.

In 2006 it was announced that Britain's Gurinder Chadha would direct a film version of Dallas, to star John Travolta in the JR role.

Little has been heard about the project since, though in a 2008 interview Chadha remained optimistic the film would eventually be made.

"Projects get resurrected and I like to think good scripts never say die," she told UK newspaper Metro.

Swami

[Karin Schill]

Well I guess the lid is officially off and the publicity train is in motion!!!!

Oh it definitely is, Larry Hagman is right now the name that is number one on trending on yahoo searches! ;)


Yes, here is the BBC link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12342985

All my friends were sending it to me today... :)

one of my friends sent me that link as well...only thing is that since we frequent Ultimate Dallas we already know! ;)

[hilux98]

I for one am elated that they are making this Dallas reboot. Haven't we pretty much rehashed all there really is to be said about our beloved iconic Dallas? And now, 20 years after the show ended, we are getting the opportunity to watch and discuss a potentially new show that will costar 3 of the main characters from the original. At worst, it will be a one-off reunion "movie." And who knows, it may be an excellent show that goes on for a number of seasons that will give us something more to talk about for years to come.

Are you serious?? Larry looks half dead and to me might not last all that much longer and his best acting may well be behind him now. It would be hard to believe him as a womaniser now as he would be lucky to raise much more than a smile after his health problems. (even with Viagra) Best to leave Dallas dead and buried.Honestly who would tolerate the childish plots let alone the appalling acting now days, it would be a rating disaster.

[Swami]

Also page 3 of today's Daily Express showing then and now photos of Larry, Patrick and Linda.

Swami

[Miss Lush]

Are you serious?? Larry looks half dead and to me might not last all that much longer and his best acting may well be behind him now. It would be hard to believe him as a womaniser now as he would be lucky to raise much more than a smile after his health problems. (even with Viagra) Best to leave Dallas dead and buried.Honestly who would tolerate the childish plots let alone the appalling acting now days, it would be a rating disaster.

I think the main problem won't be Larry's acting (even if he is bad (which I doubt) he won't be able to spoil anything as he will be in a few short scenes only) but the age gap between the younger and the older cast in general. Look at that golden boy they just casted as John Ross, he looks like a 20-something underwear model. And then look at Larry. It's ridiculous. They should have aged John Ross a little bit and should have casted a stronger actor to make this halfway believable. Regarding the new series Larry/JR now looks like a very late father or even more so like this guy's grandfather.

I don't think that they care much about such things. I think they are more concerned about finding a couple of pretty young people to please the targeted teen audience.

[Swami]

I think the main problem won't be Larry's acting (even if he is bad (which I doubt) he won't be able to spoil anything as he will be in a few short scenes only) but the age gap between the younger and the older cast in general. Look at that golden boy they just casted as John Ross, he looks like a 20-something underwear model. And then look at Larry. It's ridiculous. They should have aged John Ross a little bit and should have casted a stronger actor to make this halfway believable. Regarding the new series Larry/JR now looks like a very late father or even more so like this guy's grandfather.

I don't think that they care much about such things. I think they are more concerned about finding a couple of pretty young people to please the targeted teen audience.

I must admit the points you raise there concern me too.

Swami

[#1 Sue Ellen Fan]

I havent seen this anywhere but does anyone know if they are going to film at South ForK Ranch? I've been there as many of you have and since it is still a shrine to Dallas I assume it would be easy to film there right?

[Sarah]

To the best of my knowledge Larry is in excellent health. Don't really think his age or previous health problems have anything to do with the new series.

[A House Divided]

More from BBC News on the new DALLAS:

Dallas comeback - will JR and the Ewings be a hit?

By Rajini Vaidyanathan
BBC News, Washington

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12331135


The hit show Dallas is making a return to our screens, with many members of the original cast including Larry Hagman and Patrick Duffy. At its height - in the 1980s - it was one of the most watched programmes on television, but will it be a success this time?

It was the show of stetsons, shoulder pads and plenty of sex and scandal.

Dallas, which was set in the Texas oil industry, mixed decadence, deceit and drama, and made for compulsive viewing.

Millions around the world tuned in every week as the split-screen opening credits and the unforgettable theme tune transported them into the lives of the Ewing family.

The show ran for 13 seasons, from 1978 to 1991. Twenty years on it is being brought back to life by the TNT network with a pilot.Huge audiences

It's a comeback in every sense, with the show's biggest stars Larry Hagman (JR Ewing), Patrick Duffy (Bobby Ewing) and Linda Gray (Sue Ellen), all returning.

At its peak it drew in huge audiences. The famous Who Shot JR? plot line in March 1980 attracted some of the largest viewing figures in television history.

More than 350 million people, in 57 countries watched to see who had taken a gun to JR Ewing. In America, more than half of those watching television that night were tuned into Dallas.

In Britain, around 21.5 million viewers followed events on BBC 1. Speculation over who had pulled the trigger to one of TV's most celebrated villains led to some faintly ridiculous newspaper reports.

Britain's Daily Mirror in 1980 even speculated that television presenter Terry Wogan might have had a hand in it.

"Smooth-talking DJ Terry Wogan was almost speechless yesterday after being named a suspect in the JR shooting," the paper reported.

The newspaper's super sleuths believed they had a motive: "Terry, as every radio listener knows, simply hates the Mr Nasty of BBC TV's Dallas series."

'Sad old folk'

Other plot lines kept viewers equally gripped. Millions of hearts were broken when Bobby Ewing was killed. They all breathed a sigh of relief a series later when actor Patrick Duffy walked out of the shower - alive and extremely clean.

It turned out the whole thing had been a dream, imagined by his wife Pamela.

<!-- Embedding the video player --><!-- This is the embedded player component -->Bringing back the show, and its slightly outlandish plot lines, is a "tremendous gamble", says Chris Brown, a media consultant and former network television producer in the US.

"It's been a long time since it's been on air," he says. "The actors are certainly icons of television. When they were in their prime they were young, attractive people, now it's a bunch of sad old folk," he says.

Mr Brown says that while a whole generation of Americans have fond memories of Dallas, the challenge is reaching a new audience with the show.

A large chunk of the key viewing demographic of the US - the 18-49 year olds - would more likely remember the "Who Shot Mr Burns" parody on The Simpsons, than the original Dallas plot line, he says.

"If they are to relaunch it successfully then it needs to stand on its own - it can't rely on its former success," adds Mr Brown.

Nostalgia factor

This isn't the first time a Dallas comeback has been mooted. In 2005 a film version of the show directed by Gurinder Chadha was announced. Reports suggested John Travolta and Jennifer Lopez would take the starring roles, but the film has yet to start production.

In 2008 the cast got back together for a Dallas reunion, to celebrate 30 years of the show. The original actors gathered before hundreds of journalists at the show's filming location - the Southfork Ranch - on the outskirts of Dallas.

"It's a guilty pleasure," says Hollywood correspondent Gayl Murphy, who believes that the show might surprise everyone in its return.

"People will watch it because it's nostalgia," she says.

"At the end of the day the show is about money and power. It's about using that to manipulate.

<NOSCRIPT></NOSCRIPT>"These people were so deliciously bad and so horrifyingly good, that you never know how well the show could do."

The new show will chronicle the lives of the next generation of the Ewing family - John Ross and Christopher - and their rivalries.

Desperate Housewives star Josh Henderson, who appeared in the original series, will play John Ross.

Ms Murphy believes there will be a loyal audience who will tune in because of the memories it evokes, but that the show's future success depends on the scriptwriting and plot fitting into the present day.

"It harks back to a simpler time," says Ms Murphy, "back then they weren't texting and going on Facebook."

For Chris Brown, the show might need to update in other ways too. "It's been a long time since it was last aired, and the oil business is very different now. Perhaps it should be set on a wind farm this time," he says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12331135
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[garry]

I havent seen this anywhere but does anyone know if they are going to film at South ForK Ranch? I've been there as many of you have and since it is still a shrine to Dallas I assume it would be easy to film there right?

We were told this week that the director asnd producers would be heading down to Texas next week for a scout around potential locations and will make their decision after that.

[ProdicalSon]

Well they dang well better hit Southfork. Like someone else said, I'm sure that they would recreate the set and get some exteriors at the very least.

[Swami]

To the best of my knowledge Larry is in excellent health. Don't really think his age or previous health problems have anything to do with the new series.

The concern I have is that obviously to some degree they may mellow the character somewhat.

Swami

[kazelvis]

I Cant wait, Just hope they not going to change it too much!Got to keep the original Music. JR Will not be able to get up to his normal tricks!Or will He!

[hilux98]

To the best of my knowledge Larry is in excellent health. Don't really think his age or previous health problems have anything to do with the new series.

But he is nearly 80 years old!!!!!!!!!!!

[Karin Schill]

Yes Larry is almost 80 years old. But I don't like it when people just categorize him as "old people". He is a living tv legend and should be given the respect he deserves!
From all the press over here in Europe about the new Dallas everyone is so excited about having Larry, Linda and Patrick back on our tv screens! :D
So far I've yet to see a mention of Josh, Jesse and the two girls. That's not why most viewers will tune in to watch the show. They will turn in for the nostalgia. They want to be transported back in time to the 1980s and why not when everything else 80s has had a rivival as of lately... ;)

[CarlD]

Agree Karen, for this show to even have a chance of being successfull, they HAD to have some of the original, older Ewings. :)

[Cliff Barnes Jr]

SO happy that this project has been greenlighted and will actually get made.

And yes, I'm glad that Larry, Linda and Patrick will be reprising their roles, but whats REALLY important is that the series creates new and exciting characters and plot lines.

Think about it...the greatest gift to Dallas fans would be that the new series catches on and runs a few years. Thats the right way to preserve the Dallas legacy.

Smile, Dallas fans...this is what we always wanted!!

[thevodkabottle]

im smilling

[#1 Sue Ellen Fan]

Me too......I am excited and some what cautiously optomistic!! LOL!!

[hilux98]

Yes Larry is almost 80 years old. But I don't like it when people just categorize him as "old people". He is a living tv legend and should be given the respect he deserves!
From all the press over here in Europe about the new Dallas everyone is so excited about having Larry, Linda and Patrick back on our tv screens! :D
So far I've yet to see a mention of Josh, Jesse and the two girls. That's not why most viewers will tune in to watch the show. They will turn in for the nostalgia. They want to be transported back in time to the 1980s and why not when everything else 80s has had a rivival as of lately... ;)


They are obviously very very short of news in Europe

[Karin Schill]

Not really, whenever a political scandal or new information about the war in Afgahnistan comes in it always bumps entertainment news like Dallas off the broadcasts!
I am just saying that from what has been reported about the new show the original cast members comeback is what everyone is talking about! :D

Also I think that Dallas is much bigger in Europe than in the USA at the moment...over here everyone who is born 1985 or earlier remembers the show...

[Stan Stefanov]

Ohhh.. I so can't wait for the pilot. I was a little boy when the series first aired in my country, but a few days ago I started thinking about Dallas and I ordered the Season 1&2 DVD set. Can't wait for the set to arrive. I know it's gonna be cheesy, but great TV's always great, no matter how old.

[callagan]

Hello.
I'm wondering when it is released in France. And if the series will be dubbed one day.
Or at least broadcasted with French subtitles.

[Cliff Barnes]

Hagman is great.

[James II]

Good Ole J.R

[Cliff Barnes]

It was such a near miss that I didn't get to meet him on the new pilot. I hope my chance comes again!