Double New Who next year

[sunshineboyuk]

Double dose of Doctor Who in 2011
29/08/2010 - 17:43

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Doctor Who fans are in for a treat with two series of the hit show set to screen in 2011.

Speaking at the International Television Festival in Edinburgh, producer Steven Moffat confirmed that a seven-episode series would be shown around Easter, followed by six episodes later in the year.

And he promised that there would be an "earth-shattering" cliffhanger midway through the two.
Moffat added that the Doctor, played by Matt Smith, and his sidekick Amy Pond - aka actress Karen Gillan - would face a "game-changing" moment in the new series.

Looking at the next series I thought what this show needs is a big event in the middle," he said. "I kept referring to a mid-season finale.

"So we are going to make it two series – seven episodes at Easter building to an earth-shattering climax, a cliffhanger we could never normally do because it would be too long before it came back. An enormous game-changing cliffhanger that will change everything."

[Daniel Avery]

enormous game-changing cliffhanger that will change everything

Boy. Wolf. Cry.

Lord, I am so tired of Who Producer hyperbole...especially when it all sounds the same every time. Just say "We think it will be fun to watch."

[James from London]

Well I'm excited!

[sunshineboyuk]

It's fab isn't it ! I mean bear in mind Doctor Who is about a man travelling, ultimately alone , in a box through time and space , there isn't much game changing you can do to the basic premise but within that it's all very exciting indeed I can't wait !

[J. R.'s Piece]

It's fab isn't it ! I mean bear in mind Doctor Who is about a man travelling, ultimately alone , in a box through time and space , there isn't much game changing you can do to the basic premise


You could change the box...hang on, it used to be able to do that (until the first story)...and did in Attack Of The Cybermen but you won't be watching that one.....besides I cannot assess the extent of the game-changing until I have assessed the results of the extent of the game-changing.

Is it actually a double-half dose or a same dose doubled yet roughly-halved to stop remainders?...oh, that's the same but it would be...although it might be different.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2010/aug/29/doctor-who-cliffhanger-video

[James from London]

It's also a clever way of circumventing the perceived ratings slump of the summer months.

[J. R.'s Piece]

Was there one? When totted up with other BBC ways of watching it, record numbers on the iplayer?

....and the screening time in the first place (from 2005) was in a time spot where the BBC weren't expecting such high viewing figures....I don't know....I don't pay much attention to ratings except when I am paying much attention to ratings, including filthy jokes about ratings on I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue, which I haven't.

[James from London]

Hence the word perceived.

[J. R.'s Piece]

Ah! Enlightenment should have struck me earlier but I was too busily engrossed in reading a book about the Enlightenment, especially the part about Spallanzani's contraceptive taffeta pants for frogs.

Please accept this pic of the Third Doctor, Man of Action (or was it Acton?) in gratitude of clarification.39623

I forgot how important it can be in journalism to leave out or play down the parts of the story that don't fit the argument.

[Daniel Avery]

This different shooting schedule would, I guess, also eliminate the need for those pesky "Doctor-lite" episodes.

[J. R.'s Piece]

Did they have a Doctor-lite episode last time?

Not sure if there is a different shooting schedule.

[James from London]

This different shooting schedule would, I guess, also eliminate the need for those pesky "Doctor-lite" episodes.

Nothing pesky about Blink!

[J. R.'s Piece]

Yeah and David Tennant only did a day and a half on that. Reminds me that Steven Moffat has said that some of the scariest Doctor Who moments take place when the Doctor isn't there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWUm6YfXWNY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2H-ZrHx2ZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7QFgC3TdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TVk7OR4dXA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHVq5D0XpPU

[J. R.'s Piece]

Boy. Wolf. Cry.

Lord, I am so tired of Who Producer hyperbole...especially when it all sounds the same every time. Just say "We think it will be fun to watch."
I'm having fun watching the Daleks invade the Albert Hall again because the Doctor Who Prom 2010 highlights are being transmitted on BBC3 now with Karen Gillan, Arthur Darvill and Matt Smith.

Bad Wolf?

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[J. R.'s Piece]

This different shooting schedule would, I guess, also eliminate the need for those pesky "Doctor-lite" episodes.

Less pressure yes....They are starting filming the next season later than in previous years.
http://gallifreynewsbase.blogspot.com/2010/08/festival-video.html

[Mike]

Basically Matt Smith's first series had the lowest overnight ratings of any of the others, hence this ploy to halve the series in two to keep the ratings up !

[sunshineboyuk]

Yeah it's all disaster and evil plots to save Doctor Who from tv oblivion !!!! Could it all get any worse ?

Probably, if we dare to go off topic.

[sunshineboyuk]

Boy. Wolf. Cry.

Lord, I am so tired of Who Producer hyperbole...especially when it all sounds the same every time. Just say "We think it will be fun to watch."


Daniel it's so tiring isn't it !! Imagine a tv producer promoting a show , I'm exhausted by it too !!!!! So tired.

I love your choice of words , " it will be fun to watch " , have you ever been in PR ?

[Mike]

Yeah it's all disaster and evil plots to save Doctor Who from tv oblivion !!!! Could it all get any worse ?
Probably, if we dare to go off topic.

Oh why dont you just p### off :)

[J. R.'s Piece]

Pass off what?

Could it all get any worse ?

1990-2004?

Basically Matt Smith's first series had the lowest overnight ratings of any of the others, hence this ploy to halve the series in two to keep the ratings up !
...but the ratings haven't actually gone down. Time-shift viewing for Doctor Who can add another 2 million. It is the style of watching that has changed.

[Mike]

I actually think it's a good idea, as Stephen Moffat says, we wont have to wait as long for the next series, which can only be a good thing.

[J. R.'s Piece]

In the 1960s, it was hardly ever off-air. Just for a few short weeks.

Patrick Troughton said in an interview for KTEH that the seasons became shortened because they couldn't stand to have Jon Pertwee (who he described as being "money for old rope") on all year long....In the same interview, he claimed to have never heard of Pertwee....I've no reason to disbelieve Patrick Troughton, especially when he was fibbing....

[sunshineboyuk]

Ha ! I wonder if there will be gay subtext in the new series ?

Talking of gay subtext THE SARAH JANE ADVENTURES starts next week can't wait ..

[J. R.'s Piece]

Ha ! I wonder if there will be gay subtext in the new series ?

Talking of gay subtext THE SARAH JANE ADVENTURES starts next week can't wait ..
I'm wondering if there is any gay subtext in Gerry Anderson's U.F.O.
"I quite liked Kill Straker! for quite different reasons. It is full of double entendres and worked beautifully as a self-mockery of a latent homosexual attraction between Foster and Straker"
- Michael Billington (Paul Foster)

...Former Doctor Who script editor, Dennis Spooner, wrote for U.F.O. .....and in the extended 30 Years In The TARDIS documentary, Gerry Anderson (on the TARDIS set) complains that his youngest son preferred to watch Doctor Who instead of Gerry's own shows. Of course, the budget for two episodes of U.F.O. could have funded a year's worth of stories (40-44 episodes) for Patrick Troughton's Doctor.

[sunshineboyuk]

Surely there Was gay subtext in UFO ??? Straker IS gay subtext .

[J. R.'s Piece]

Straker IS gay subtext .
Oh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCGwWBEPTp0

Actually I meant to say More Than Thirty Years In The TARDIS...and strangely Elisabeth Sladen looks younger now than she did on that....

[sunshineboyuk]

She looked old when she was young and now she looks younger but she's older.


It occurred to me that Avon and Vila had major gay subtext. And Tarrant and Avon . And I suppose Avon and Blake had the biggest subtext of all.

[J. R.'s Piece]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UsPMQQiO0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipkELW-9Kc

I was never keen on Tarrant. Remember when Pacey donned a wig to become Tarrant's older brother, who got murdered thanks to Servalan, although this didn't stop the younger Tarrant from sleeping with her?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2K1jjN0z2Q

[sunshineboyuk]

Oh why dont you just p### off :)

Lets get married for a year lol

[sunshineboyuk]

I remember that all the siblings got murdered by Servalan , remember Zelda ?!

[J. R.'s Piece]

...played by Jan Chappell (if you're not talking about Gerry Anderson's Terrahawks) and Servalan's psychic miscarriage. I remember every episode of Blakes7 ....except the ones scripted by Allan Prior and Ben Steed

Actually, the UFO episode, Exposed, featured Arthur Cox as Straker's "construction manager". Arthur was Mr Henderson, seen when Amy Pond trapped the Doctor's tie in his car. Arthur was also in The Dominators in a meatier role with Jamie but in a weaker story, The Dominators, which was released on DVD this year.

One hour to Sarah Jane!

[J. R.'s Piece]

Lets get married for a year lol
Who to?
Conflict
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBsHrLFl_Wc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKC44F98180
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlxRaPBfL2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrZlAYpXf4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzj-hJNIZgY


Confetti Check A-OK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-OCQnm6AOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy2NKUtBtNs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Bsrg8Qa1g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPjbORcmhjI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxoT9ejdisI

[J. R.'s Piece]

http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/23/anglophenia.jsp?bc_id=1899

[sunshineboyuk]

How can I forget Servalan's psychic miscarraige ??!!!!!!! Possibly one of the most disturbing moments in tv history!

I have to do the weekend omnibus of SARAH JANE as I'm not a child who is at home. I'm a child who is at work.

[J. R.'s Piece]

Elisabeth Sladen does 2 Sarah Jane shows now
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vdgy0
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qgb3

I was in a lengthy board meeting on Monday but we finished early on account of the chair being quicker than usual because it wanted to go home and watch Sarah Jane. Sarah Jane's return makes me UFOric!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqUWsXROkKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCxSThNRtWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLcPbpn51k0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZwQ69sqNt4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toR6YZdIxmY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVPYGxD85pw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1QTRgHgGFI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB8ps9gksa8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhe1nZNscio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kos5fiMa5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENvO3BlhN48&p=EEC1E12EF9872C6C&playnext=1&index=65
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOKlvEVb71Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGNfzzIJ3Lo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c8yPXs9ymg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGv3bjjwXUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCxAfkvSTiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyCjDCudB4s&p=EEC1E12EF9872C6C&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmeDsf6rUE8&p=CB0BBC9E68010624&playnext=1&index=25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGQRWZi5qlo&feature=PlayList&p=EEC1E12EF9872C6C&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phyeTZc7vs&feature=PlayList&p=31D8254DB27396AF&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajmtzafyUFA&feature=PlayList&p=D0C731E0CCF2296C&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJfEXXcrj9o&feature=PlayList&p=6B8EACBA78931F4A&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Xft4gDrcM&feature=PlayList&p=CD3423318D54E1A2&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2K1jjN0z2Q&feature=PlayList&p=8645187E8AE80B62&index=0&playnext=1




...and Servalan switched to from white to black outfits from that B7 episode, when she infected Michael Troughton with plague.

[J. R.'s Piece]

I suppose Avon and Blake had the biggest subtext of all.
...their relationship was more prominent in season 2?

With you mentioning the gay subtext of Commander Straker and the gay subtext of Avon, it reminds me that I did sometimes think that at moments, there were similar vibes from those characters...you know the sort of anti-heroic sort of hero..... some of Straker's behaviour in Flight Path (the third episode of UFO filmed) and it's resolution and the way Straker uses Roper (George Cole).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxvOQbVN6wc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDxAc8MuPDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tt_LA66w2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_t-3u4-5VM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmuOQ_9Lc0M

[sunshineboyuk]

Well yeah the Avon and Vila relationship turned really dark in series 4, it was fascinating at times. Series 2 was more if a double act as I remember .

But then again Avons delight in anything that caused Tarrant emotional pain was equally fascinating.

[dayzeerae]

Ah well that will be 13 weeks when can get dinner on earlier then. Don't get me wrong, I used to be a big Dr Who fan. But for me this couple have not 'gelled' . Not him as the Doctor and not them as a team.

[dayzeerae]

I have got it in my head that at some time in the series the David Tennants Doctor says that he has only one more 'life' left, thus making Matt whatsit the last one. But, and here's my dilemma. River Song, in her first appearance in the library with her book, indicates that they have been, shall we say, intimate, at some time in her past and his future. But if this is his last 'incarnation' that would mean that this relationship occurs with him, and somehow cannot see that happening, as there is no chemistry between them whatsoever.

Also now that he [U]has[U] met her and knows of this supposed relationship he would be more wary of her??:confused:

[J. R.'s Piece]

I used to be a big Dr Who fan.
How could you tell?

I have got it in my head that at some time in the series the David Tennants Doctor says that he has only one more 'life' left
Oh?

at some time in the series the David Tennants Doctor says that he has only one more 'life' left
No.

thus making Matt whatsit the last one.
No...but even if the above no was a yes....it would be a not necessarily.

But, and here's my dilemma.
Trilemmas are far more exciting!

River Song, in her first appearance in the library with her book, indicates that they have been, shall we say, intimate, at some time in her past and his future.
Intimate? How do you mean?...although I follow the rest of that bit

But if this is his last 'incarnation'
We don't actually know that and even if it was his last one, it might not actually be his last one

that would mean that this relationship occurs with him
Wait and see...it might mean it but it doesn't necessarily mean it

and somehow cannot see that happening
Suggest later dinner...but then it happened in the future (or in past?), so you aren't able to see it yet.

there is no chemistry between them whatsoever.
Oh!

Also now that he [U]has[U] met her and knows of this supposed relationship he would be more wary of her??:confused:
Not necessarily

I'm not sure it qualifies as a dilemma at all....every time I hear dilemma, I think of the **x** Doctor's first full story, The Twin Dilemma...and I wish I didn't....

[dayzeerae]

@ JR's piece At 62 have probably been watching the series for a d*** site longer than you have, so I can claim to be a big fan. One who has been sincerely disappointed in this last incarnation. The entire change of cast, writers and production team has in my 'humble opinion resulted in an almost amateur imitation of a once great programme. He seems to feel that his part only requires him to run around like a headless chicken gesticulating wildly and grimacing all the time, while she seem to think that pursing her lips and widening her eyes all the time constitutes 'acting'.

[J. R.'s Piece]

@ JR's piece At 62 have probably been watching the series for a d*** site longer than you have, so I can claim to be a big fan.
:hello:That's okay.:wiggle: I was just wondering what the criteria was for you. I remember a short series of pieces in Doctor Who Magazine about it by Gary Gillatt, you see about the fan gene. Personally, I've never claimed to be a fan (at least I have no recollection of ever claiming to be one).

:confused:Why the ***?
..oh and welcome to soapchat! I hope you are very happy here!:):cheers:

P.S. As you don't know my age, it is best not to use a "probably".

There isn't an entire change of writers. Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss have been writing for the tv show since the 2005 run and Gareth Roberts since the 2007 run....and all of those had contributed to Doctor Who in other formats.

[J. R.'s Piece]

He seems to feel that his part only requires him to run around like a headless chicken gesticulating wildly and grimacing all the time, while she seem to think that pursing her lips and widening her eyes all the time constitutes 'acting'.

Dunno what they think and feel. I can't guesstimate what is occurring within their thinking/feeling patterns....and how it influences their acting, only their acting (or part of their acting) but he was influenced by watching the Second Doctor ......

At 62 have probably been watching the series for a d*** site longer than you have, so I can claim to be a big fan.
After consideration, I would guesstimate that fan levels are largely dependent on the depth of immersion and bonding more than anything else. While seniority in age can determine + assist in levels of first-hand exposure and levels of media exposure at the time, often information doesn't come to light until later on....and then again, there is the "How big is big?" argument.

in my 'humble opinion resulted in an almost amateur imitation of a once great programme.
Why "amateur"? Why "once great"? When was it "great"? Please would you explain this further/in greater detail? Sharing your experiences in greater detail is most warmly welcomed.

[J. R.'s Piece]

I suppose Avon and Blake had the biggest subtext of all.
I don't know....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br5pyuJlzCc

http://img181.imagevenue.com/loc202/th_17286_edandmike_122_202lo.jpg (http://img181.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=17286_edandmike_122_202lo.jpg)

[Emma'sfan]

Ah well that will be 13 weeks when can get dinner on earlier then. Don't get me wrong, I used to be a big Dr Who fan. But for me this couple have not 'gelled' . Not him as the Doctor and not them as a team.

I confess to being a bit slow to warming up to the latest incarnation. I don't dislike him, but he isn't my favorite by far. I think part of it is Amy. Not quite sure i like her. She's just kinda there for me. Don't hate her and I don't love her. I think if Matt Smith had a different companion, it might alter things for me--hopefully in a positive way.

[Garrison]

Boy. Wolf. Cry.

Lord, I am so tired of Who Producer hyperbole...especially when it all sounds the same every time. Just say "We think it will be fun to watch."

Wasn't hyperbole in the end, was it?

Anyone know when in September it comes back? I'm going to be in London the first week of the month, would be a joy to catch it over there.

[J. R.'s Piece]

It occurred to me that Avon and Vila had major gay subtext. And Tarrant and Avon . And I suppose Avon and Blake had the biggest subtext of all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuNdPgM8eY


I remember that all the siblings got murdered by Servalan , remember Zelda ?!
Cally's identical twin sister? Yes. She got exploded? Of course, that was after Servalan infected Michael Troughton in order to wipe out the population of Cally's home planet.