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Jack
11-28-2007, 04:14 PM
<nyt_headline version="1.0" type=" "> Bill Clinton Flatly Asserts He Opposed War at Start </nyt_headline>

<nyt_byline version="1.0" type=" "> </nyt_byline>By PATRICK HEALY (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/patrick_d_healy/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
<nyt_text> </nyt_text> During a campaign swing for his wife, former President Bill Clinton (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/bill_clinton/index.html?inline=nyt-per) said flatly yesterday that he opposed the war in Iraq (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iraq/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) “from the beginning” — a statement that is more absolute than his comments before the invasion in March 2003.
Before the invasion, Mr. Clinton did not precisely declare that he opposed the war. A week before military action began, however, he did say that he preferred to give weapons inspections more time and that an invasion was not necessary to topple Saddam Hussein (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/saddam_hussein/index.html?inline=nyt-per).
At the same time, he also spoke supportively about the 2002 Senate resolution that authorized military action against Iraq.
Advisers to Mr. Clinton said yesterday that he did oppose the war, but that it would have been inappropriate at the time for him, a former president, to oppose — in a direct, full-throated manner — the sitting president’s military decision.
Mr. Clinton has said several times since the war began that he would not have attacked Iraq in the manner that President Bush had done. As early as June 2004, he said, “I would not have done it until after Hans Blix (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/hans_blix/index.html?inline=nyt-per) finished the job,” referring to the weapons inspections there before the war.
At the time of those remarks, though, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/hillary_rodham_clinton/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of New York was not a presidential candidate, and Mr. Clinton was not campaigning on her behalf. Nor was she running for the nomination against a Democrat who opposed the invasion from the start — Senator Barack Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of Illinois.
Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton are in a tight race to win the Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and Mr. Clinton made his remark in Iowa. One rival Democratic campaign circulated Mr. Clinton’s remark to reporters and, without speaking for attribution, accused him of fuzzing the historical record to make the Clintons appear more antiwar than they actually were at the time.
Mrs. Clinton voted in favor of a Senate resolution authorizing military action against Iraq in 2002. She has said she was misled by Mr. Bush.
Mr. Clinton’s remark yesterday came in the context of opposition to Republican-backed tax cuts for wealthy Americans like himself, and how that loss of revenue affected financing for the military.
“Even though I approved of Afghanistan and opposed Iraq from the beginning, I still resent that I was not asked or given the opportunity to support those soldiers,” Mr. Clinton said.

Jack
11-28-2007, 04:17 PM
he would not have attacked Iraq in the manner that President Bush had done.

His attack would have consisted of 2 cruise missiles, a basketball and a follow up trip by Jimmy Carter


“Even though I approved of Afghanistan and opposed Iraq from the beginning, I still resent that I was not asked or given the opportunity to support those soldiers,”

B.S. Bill
You are the former President, a man himself who attacked Iraq and Afghanistan. You were President for 8 years previous to Bush

Anytime you wanted to address or meet with the troops in the field ... it would have been arranged for you to do so ... you don't have to be asked, if you really wanted to support the soldiers in the field all you had to do was make a phone call

what a weasel

jen.n
11-28-2007, 04:25 PM
I don't know why he should even be saying stuff like this when campaigning for his wife, who is on the record voting for the war as a Senator.

In a debate, when Tim Russert pointed out her views contradicted Bill's, Hillary barked that she was running for President, not him. So, by her own remarks, his opinions aren't relevant to her campaign.

BJR
11-28-2007, 06:13 PM
I don't know how to react to this.

Mayor Gregory
11-28-2007, 06:14 PM
Can't believe a word Clinton says, proven (on oath) liar,
alleged straying again... truth is a stranger to Bill.

djacques75
12-05-2007, 07:05 PM
Bill Clinton is an outrageous liar as well as a cheap crook. I disliked him in office and I dislike him and his wife now. How sad it is that his replacement is even worse.

HoustonCougar
12-05-2007, 07:06 PM
Newsflash: Bill Clinton is no longer president

Jack
12-05-2007, 07:09 PM
Newsflash: Bill Clinton is no longer president

wow thanks for that contribution to the thread HC

the posting of this article has nothing to do with Clinton being president

it has to do, however, with a FORMER president changing his position on the Iraq War in order to help his wife who is running for president.

also, George Bush will not be on the ticket for the Republicans but the democrats continue to run against him in the 2008 election

but thanks for your knowledge and insight :wiggle:

jen.n
12-05-2007, 07:12 PM
Newsflash: Bill Clinton is no longer president

^^ Is this why the chimps won in the experiment? :D

Mayor Gregory
12-07-2007, 06:17 PM
chimps, weasels, Clintons... :D

Mrs.JockEwing
12-07-2007, 07:48 PM
Bill Clinton is an outrageous liar as well as a cheap crook. I disliked him in office and I dislike him and his wife now. How sad it is that his replacement is even worse.

But yet you condone 13 and 14 year olds to give their consent for sex.:rolleyes:

Mayor Gregory
12-07-2007, 07:59 PM
http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?t=163926

Mrs.JockEwing
12-07-2007, 08:39 PM
http://www.soapchat.net/showthread.php?t=163926

And your point is???

HoustonCougar
12-07-2007, 09:08 PM
But yet you condone 13 and 14 year olds to give their consent for sex.:rolleyes:


In Germany the legal age of consent is 14.

mztx71
12-07-2007, 09:14 PM
In Germany the legal age of consent is 14.

That's just wrong! The legal age in the UK is 16 however, we have the largest number of teenage pregnancies in Europe, 14 being a very popular age to give birth. Also been a fair few cases of 12 year olds giving birth! Kids are growing up too fast and it's disturbing! :(

djacques75
12-08-2007, 05:54 AM
But yet you condone 13 and 14 year olds to give their consent for sex.:rolleyes:

I have no idea what that has to do with anything I said on this thread.

djacques75
12-08-2007, 05:56 AM
Kids are growing up too fast and it's disturbing!

Too fast for what?

BJR
12-08-2007, 05:59 AM
Too fast for what?

yeah, wasn't Thomas Jefferson in his early twenties? :confused: