Bliss as head of Colby Enterprises PR

[LoveLaura]

In a much needed move to quell her constant annoyance at what the company stands for Jason makes her head of PR using her journalism degree she got in college. This gives Bliss much needed time being productive and an oppertunity to hype the positive the company doesand dealing with the negative in an honest and responcible manner.

[Jason!]

... using her journalism degree she got in college.
When was it established Bliss has a degree in journalism?

[wouldwininacatfight]

I wondered that too. I don't think she went to college.

[James from London]

I don't like the idea. The most (only) interesting thing about Bliss was the stance she took against Colby Enterprises. Turning her into a spin doctor/apologist for the company would be quite vile, unless you made a point of consciously illustrating how and why she'd decided to sell out.

[Jason!]

Love the quote James.

Jay!

[Matthew Blaisdel]

It would have been interesting to see Jason bringing her into CE for his reasons, but then once, she is inside, she kinda watches over his shoulders to control his business actions, f.e. that he doesn't harm the environment, etc... would have given some interesting scenes home at dinner-table... ;)
A little bit like Steven thought about his Father and DC on DYNASTY S1..

[LoveLaura]

Yes Mathew I agree and it would have given her something to do that effected the plot.

[Jason!]

Yet, it still goes against the rejection of the Colby Empire.

As discussed in another thread, it would have made more sense if Bliss continued to work in the arts with Sable at the Colby Collection. Jeff, Miles, and Monica were already at Colby Enterprises. And remember, it took Jason a while to accept Monica, a genius to work there, he's not going to off the bat accept uneducated valley girl Bliss.

Bliss and Steven (from season one) share the same "I reject the family empire" views, but they are different also. As Blake points out, Steven may have rejected Denver-Carrington, but didn't mind living off its fruits. So, Steven starts from the ground up and becomes the executive we see later in the series. Also, we know Steven's credentials. And think about the scene on the Colby jet where Steven asks Adam if he ever had crude under his fingernails.

Bliss just couldn't come in as Ms. Executive. It would not be realistic, it would not motivate a storyline. She'd be a laughing stock. It would be as unrealistic as the UFO. In contrast, Krystle becoming a PR director was different because we know Krystle has a working background, and she knows Denver-Carrington. Remember, Jason was even hesitant about Jeff! Jason isn't going to hire someone just because they're family -- especially his daughters.

You can't take the fish and expect it to swim in the desert. Bliss would have been totally out of her environment at Colby Enterprises. We never saw Lucy set foot in Ewing Oil! Some characters are not meant to do certain things. If Bliss did decide to go Colby Enterprises, it would have to be gradual; she can't be like daytime characters -- I know several who suddenly decide they want to be a doctor, and in no time, they're practicing medicine.

TPTB created Bliss as the one to reject the trappings of wealth. It's interesting later when Bliss has to turn to her father, his wealth, his influences, in order to save Kolya. In that respect, she's the same as Steven: the Colby fortune is good when it benefits her.

Just my humble opinion -- the gospel according to Jay!

[LoveLaura]

That makes alot of sense and your right not all characters are meant to do all things. Did she work with her Mum at the Colby Collection?

[Matthew Blaisdel]

Or maybe they could have driven her role a little bit more active into that greanpeace-stuff with Sean. A demonstration in front of the CE-Building, lead by Bliss an Sean and then some of the activists run crazy and it gets out of control..
BTW did Bliss have any friends besides her 3 lovers? They should have made her much more rebellic, like bringing her punk-friends to the mansion, ruining the carpet, playing hard-rock-music and driving Jason crazy... :D

[Jason!]

I think Bliss was like Amanda and had friends -- often referred to but never seen.

[LoveLaura]

Had she been brought in to CE and sucked as a result of all the aforementioned reasons might have been interesting to gage other executives reaction, could have gotten plenty of mileage (no pun intended) out of resentment of Daddys little girl landing a cushy job because he feels she needs some direction and responcibilty in her life such as punching a time clock at Colby Enterprises and she being awful at the job because she has no skills!

[LoveLaura]

And I am sorry but I much preferred Bliss to Amanda, I know that is probably an unpopular sentiment but its true and I am sure you will all jump on me for it but I have to be honest and in rewatching season 2 with Koyla I really liked the pair of them and their story when I was not initially too keen on it.

[lbf522]

I don't like the idea. The most (only) interesting thing about Bliss was the stance she took against Colby Enterprises. Turning her into a spin doctor/apologist for the company would be quite vile, unless you made a point of consciously illustrating how and why she'd decided to sell out.


Good point. That is what makes a character's transformation believable if the viewer understands why it happens. Not sure if fans would have bought it though. I mean we never saw Lucy Ewing at Ewing Oil or Fallon at Denver-Carrington because it was not their field and was not expected.

[Jason!]

I mean we never saw ... or Fallon at Denver-Carrington because it was not their field and was not expected.

HOLD IT!!!

In the pilot episode of Dynasty, WHO is ready to take the helm of Denver-Carrington? Fallon. But, in Blake Carrington's world, women took a backseat ... though Fallon was quite comfortable there too.

Later, after The Colbys folded, Blake relinquishes control of Denver-Carrington to Adam, Fallon and Steven (later replaced by Jeff).

Comparing Lucy to Bliss is okay, but Fallon was a businesswoman. She ran La Mirage and later co-operated Denver-Carrrington.

After the arrival of Alexis, Fallon's character became limited and was not allowed to grow, but Fallon did a hell of a lot more than Bliss.

[LoveLaura]

I agree with that 100% Jason but its is ashame she was not given more to do but that is an arguement for many of the women in the Colbys. I still think it would be interesting to watch her flounder in the corporate world but I likes your earlier suggestion of working for Sable at the Colby collection. PS are you ok, where have you been ...glad your back!

[Dynastie c'est riche]

I imagine totally Monica being head of Colby Enterprises, maybe more than Miles, but certainly not Bliss! It's not that she is not clever, it's just that she is not strong enough. To do something artistic (like in season 2) is her thing.
As for Fallon (#1), it's true that it's a shame that her brothers and her husband took her place as Denver Carrington. In season 8, she could have had her chance but who could blamed Blake to have not given her after she said she was abducted in a UFO?:p

[Jason!]

I imagine totally Monica being head of Colby Enterprises, maybe more than Miles, but certainly not Bliss! It's not that she is not clever, it's just that she is not strong enough. To do something artistic (like in season 2) is her thing.

That was the whole set up for the Colby children -- all the dynamics are present from the beginning as opposed to Steven and Fallon who have very difinite personalities in the first season of Dynasty but then seem to waffle and even exchange personalities. Would Steven of season one really be interested in running Denver-Carrington later?

The Colbys are different. You can say they're carbon copies, but two sons and two daughters but that's really about it. I don't think the producers sat down and okay, who's going to be Kirby and who's going to be Amanda? They might have based some concepts on the original Carrington children, but I believe the Colbys were different. Jason comes from the same generation as Blake, and his daughter isn't going to head Colby Enterprises, that's for Miles. Miles is the classic playboy, any more classic you'd think he was Bruce Wayne and was hiding something. His day is consumed with polo and women. Monica is the over achiever and business is her life. Bliss a typical valley girl.

As the show went on, Miles only had an interest in Colby Enterprises after Jeff shows up relacing him as Jason's eldest. After Garrett departs (and Dominique) Monica had to do something and tying her to the IMOS project was a smart move. And Bliss finally starts to grow up. Her second season love interest is more mature than previous interests.


As for Fallon (#1), it's true that it's a shame that her brothers and her husband took her place as Denver Carrington. In season 8, she could have had her chance but who could blamed Blake to have not given her after she said she was abducted in a UFO?

I don't think the UFO had any bearing on Blake's decision. He'd love Fallon regardless, and Fallon had proved herself a businesswoman. It's a nod to Blake for finally recoginizing Fallon's abilties. And, if I'm not mistaken, Fallon only told Jeff and Steven; it was Leslie who overheard things and got rumors going. Of course, Leslie didn't last long, and Fallon remained.


its is ashame she was not given more to do but that is an arguement for many of the women in the Colbys.

No, it's not. You're obviously comparing it to Dynasty. Look at the women of The Colbys:

Constance -- Given her age, and she became Jason's co-partner after Phillip died and after Andrew cut Cecil out of the will, she's ahead of her time as a businesswoman. We just see her as retired and flying off to see her boyfriend, but obviously, she was a powerful businesswoman before Alexis.

Sable -- Sable was typical Hollywood businessman's wife. Taking care of the family, entertaining her husband's business guests, travelling the world, and running her own art gallery. Says a lot. It's soccer mom to the highest degree.

Monica -- Businesswoman, speaks Japanese for a hobby.

Bliss -- She's young, not found herself yet.

Dominique -- I thought Dominique was more interesting on The Colbys. On Dynasty she makes this grand entrance crowning herself black bitch and then doing nothing. On The Colbys, she's ready to use that title and make Jason's life hell if he's behind buying up her stock. She's running a record company. I loved the scenes where she has to put her two executives -- Monica and Neil -- in place for the sake of her business.

Frankie -- She's the reason most have a problem with.


Such as we were supposed to root for Jason and Frankie over Sable when Sable was the only one of the three who was a sympathetic character.

Remember those carbon copies? The triangle (Dynasty didn't create it, folks) was duplicated without success ... or was it? The Colbys take the practically the same situation and recreate it, only this time making it more personal and sensational by making the two women sisters. It's obvious they are going to make Sable the bitch, being Alexis' cousin doesn't matter. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, after all. What happens though is exactly what ibf says, Sable becomes the sympathetic character. We sympathize with Sable. By now Alexis has become a cartoon, a caricature of her former self.

But wait. Maybe this was intentional. One of my gripes about Alexis was how she went from color by numbers painter to execcutive businesswoman. Sable is different. We see the developemnt here. She has Zach Powers to train her. It would have been more interesting on Dynasty had Cecil lived anohter season and set up Alexis taking Blake head on. Zach trains Sable, remember her first board meeting, remember him telling her what to fight for in the divorce.


I still think it would be interesting to watch her flounder in the corporate world but I likes your earlier suggestion of working for Sable at the Colby collection.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. "Flounder" when used as a verb means "to move or act clumsily and in confusion" or "to make clumsy attempts to move or regain one's balance". You wanted Bliss to go to Colby Enterprises and make a fool out of herself? That's exactly what would happen if she had. It would have strained the relationship between the siblings, and that was one of the nicer qualities of The Colbys, the siblings acted like a family. Or did you think she's a fish? I'll take the crab-stuffed flounder, please.

[LoveLaura]

wow agreed as usual a great insightful post that makes me think, I do agree 100 percent that one of the nice things about the Colbys were the kids acted like family and cared for one another and that was evident in their stories. Yes I thought it would be interesting to watch Bliss make a fool of herself and have to find her way after clumsey attempts at Colby Enterprises but watching her evolve into a business woman eventually earning her place there. Do you really like Dominique on the Colbys or Dynasty for that matter? I will pay more attention to her because if you like her this much there must be something there that I am missing. I also agree that Bliss grew up and matured alot in her second relationship with Koyla as opposed to her first with Sean but I also think that is in part because it was a stronger written story and by far more interesting, they had chemestry that I failed to see in the Sean McCallister spying for Zach storyline.

[Jason!]

Yes I thought it would be interesting to watch Bliss make a fool of herself and have to find her way after clumsey attempts at Colby Enterprises but watching her evolve into a business woman eventually earning her place there.

I think you're confusing Leagally Blonde with The Colbys. Sorry, it wouldn't have worked.


Do you really like Dominique on the Colbys or Dynasty for that matter? I will pay more attention to her because if you like her this much there must be something there that I am missing.

Dominique on The Colbys is much stronger and more interesting than Dominique on Dynasty. In her first appearance on The Colbys, she rushes into Jason's office ready to rip him apart. Later, we see her as a businesswoman with feuding Neil and Monica over Wayne. Yes, it was more or less Monica's story, but we were seeing Dominique doing more than just her usual role as "saloon singer" on Dynasty. And, some of her best scenes were those with Zach. She could be a shrewd businesswoman. Too bad her time and talent were wasted on Dynasty. A third season with Dominique would have been great.



I also agree that Bliss grew up and matured alot in her second relationship with Koyla as opposed to her first with Sean but I also think that is in part because it was a stronger written story and by far more interesting, they had chemestry that I failed to see in the Sean McCallister spying for Zach storyline.

Hmmm. Two young lovers from fueding families ... old as Shakespeare ... could have worked, but it wasn't followed up here. It would have been interesting to see Sean and Bliss actually marry, and move into the mansion and Sean could have butted heads with everyone. I'd like to have seen him around in season two scheming with Channing, maybe being her ally inside the family.

[Dynastie c'est riche]

Dominique -- I thought Dominique was more interesting on The Colbys. On Dynasty she makes this grand entrance crowning herself black bitch and then doing nothing. On The Colbys, she's ready to use that title and make Jason's life hell if he's behind buying up her stock. She's running a record company. I loved the scenes where she has to put her two executives -- Monica and Neil -- in place for the sake of her business.


(...)And, some of her best scenes were those with Zach. She could be a shrewd businesswoman. Too bad her time and talent were wasted on Dynasty. A third season with Dominique would have been great.
Well, Dominique seems more like a business woman in "TC", but she has not a lot to do, so I prefer her in "D". But only for season 6. Her scenes in the 2nd and 3rd episode of season 2 (especially with Zach Powers) were much better than any scene she did during season 7 of "D".
Really, to have not taken Dominique to replace Connie that year was a terrible mistake. She could have been the friend of Francesca, giving her an ally, and a love interest for Zach, giving more to do for Sable.



Frankie -- She's the reason most have a problem with.

Well, I felt sympathy for Francesca during the 15 first episodes of "the Colbys" (=the end of the trial). But, after that, she didn't act anymore for her son but for her, and she appeared like a selfish woman. It wasn't until the really end of season 2 that it became clear: she's the weakest woman on the earth, she can't say no to anyone. Thus, I felt some pity for her.


(...) that was one of the nicer qualities of The Colbys, the siblings acted like a family.
Yes. Steven and Fallon were family in the first seasons, but what about Adam and Amanda? In season 5, they seemed close, as being both the "strangers". But in season 6, that tight link was broken, and it was no more explored. And Amanda and Fallon never shared a single scene during that year.
Of course, since "the Colbys" lasted 2 years and "Dynasty" 9, it's hard to make a fair comparison. But the result is still that the Colbys looked like a family, the Carringtons didn't.

[lbf522]

That is true we did not see a lot of interactiong between the Carrington kids. Its a shame that there was never a scene between Adam and Amanda or Amanda and Fallon.

[Colbyco]

(...9 Its a shame that there was never a scene between Adam and Amanda or Amanda and Fallon.

-there was ONE Amanda (2) + Fallon (2) scene when F & Jeff came to Denver for one episode at the start of S7
-Amanda & Adam had some scenes together!

[LoveLaura]

But the Colbys were portyed as more of a family and the kids all supported one another its a shame we did not see more of it because it was ain marked contrast to the Carrington kids. Even Jeff and Monica became close as brother and sister on Dynasty.

[lbf522]

HOLD IT!!!

In the pilot episode of Dynasty, WHO is ready to take the helm of Denver-Carrington? Fallon. But, in Blake Carrington's world, women took a backseat ... though Fallon was quite comfortable there too.

Later, after The Colbys folded, Blake relinquishes control of Denver-Carrington to Adam, Fallon and Steven (later replaced by Jeff).

Comparing Lucy to Bliss is okay, but Fallon was a businesswoman. She ran La Mirage and later co-operated Denver-Carrrington.

After the arrival of Alexis, Fallon's character became limited and was not allowed to grow, but Fallon did a hell of a lot more than Bliss.


I stand corrected. Its been a long time since I have seen Dynasty and needed to remember how Fallon was and you are correct. Fallon was a step above Lucy and Bliss.

Thanks for the reminder.

[lbf522]

Jason,I agree with you that it would have made much more sense for Alexis to go from painter to businesswoman if she had been trained by Cecil or someone just as powerful. Never thought of that. Love your insights.

[Jason!]

Speaking of Alexis' artistic abilities, isn't it interesting that Sable is the to recogize the painting in season nine as a Sthal? That's one up on Sable.

[Dynastie c'est riche]

But Alexis was an amateur, like Amanda (who made a portrait of Dex just after her arrival). Sable was a pro.

[Jason!]

I realize that. The point is that they always tried to make Alexis seem SOOOO superior. It was nice to see her taken down a peg.

[LoveLaura]

Leave it to Sabella she will knock her off that throne!