European soaps

[willie oleson]

The popularity of the glossy prime time soaps was not limited to America and England.
In Holland we've had several tv series about rich families although they were never as glamorous as the Carringtons of course.
1. Westenwind
2. De Fabriek (The Factory)
3. Diamant (Diamond)
4. Spijkerhoek

And the Germans had:
1. Die Schwarzwald Klinik
2. Das Erbe der Guldenburgs

Now I'm trying to remember the title of a French (!) prime time soap, it was something about a woman who returns to her birthplace to fight her father in local politics...? Does anyone remember?

[Toby]

And the Germans had:
1. Die Schwarzwald Klinik

Please forgive me as my German is very rusty, but does this translate as BLACK FOREST CLINIC? If so, it aired in the afternoons on Channel 4 here in the U.K. in the mid-80's.



Now I'm trying to remember the title of a French (!) prime time soap, it was something about a woman who returns to her birthplace to fight her father in local politics...? Does anyone remember?

Would this be CHATEAUVALLON by any chance? This was a French soap that also was shown, late at night, on Channel 4 circa 1986. As I recall, it was shown twice in the week in both dubbed and subtitled versions. I think it was about a family who owned an influential newspaper.

[willie oleson]

Yes, the Black Forest Clinic, it was very much in Hotel/Love Boat style.
And you're right about the French soap series, it must have been Chateauvallon!!
Thanks for that :kiss:

[EwingMan]

Here in Portugal, we have loads of Brazillian ones, yet the Portuguese one's are also very popular (Daytime Soaps that air everyday after the news).

Strawberry's with Sugar ( Sorth of BH 90210, Daytime version with Surf), New Wave (Brazillian) etc...However they can't top the american one's in terms of ratings.

American Nigthtime Soaps Ratings(in Portugal)
1. Dallas
2. Dynasty
3. BH 90210
4. Falcon Crest
5. Melrose Place
6. The Colbys
7. Models Inc.
8. Knots Landing

[willie oleson]

I'm sure every country has its own daytime soap...my mother used to watch "Oshin", a Chinese soap that was broadcasted on Belgium television lol.
But that's not the same as the weekly big budget/high fashion prime (or night) time series.
Can you imagine a Russian version of Dynasty?

[Toby]

Can you imagine a Russian version of Dynasty?

No. But I can imagine a show called Gilligan's Gulag.

[Toby]

And you're right about the French soap series, it must have been Chateauvallon!!

Apparently CHATEAUVALLON was a huge success in France but was axed after one season because the lead actress was seriously injured in a car crash.

[willie oleson]

Yes I've read all about that right after you had posted the title of this series.
Chantal Nobel is her name...very sad indeed.
There are still some vhs tapes available from amazon.fr.
It wasn't that great actually, but it was good enough for a PT soap addict like me!

[Toby]

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004WEBY.08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

The VHS cover features Chantal Nobel as "Florence Berg".

[Jamie Barnes]

In germany we also still have the following daytime soaps:

Marienhof
Verbotene Liebe
Unter Uns

the oldest (since 1985) is:

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and most popular is:

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[The Ewings Rules]

In germany we also still have the following daytime soaps:

Marienhof
Verbotene Liebe
Unter Uns

the oldest (since 1985) is:

http://www.tvdb-media.de/gfx/v/v3102.gif

and most popular is:

http://www.tvdb-media.de/gfx/v/v5164.gif

Verbotene Liebe, great show. I don't follow this show anymore, because i have no time. Because it's on when i'm eating, not a happy time to airing a show with dinner time.

[Jamie Barnes]

I don`t like the german soaps so much. But I watched GZSZ for a very long time. They celebrated their 13th birthday some days ago.

[Tedi]

Hi!I am great fan Chantal Nobel.I see her in the film"Chateauvallon" and I mean that she is verry good actress and nice woman.If it is possible send me in this email mxmxmx@abv.bg the web site from her and hers email.i want write her.

[Colbyco]

In germany we also still have the following daytime soaps:

Marienhof
Verbotene Liebe
Unter Uns

the oldest (since 1985) is:

http://www.tvdb-media.de/gfx/v/v3102.gif


-yes. but "Lindenstraße" is no daily soap. It´s shown every sunday...

"Das Erbe der Guldenburgs" was really well done. The newspapers called it "the german answer to Denver (Dynasty)". 2 rich families fighting: the wealthy Guldenburgs and the much more richer Balbecks. they produce beer and fight in buisness. Margot Balbeck (an Alexis-type) wants to destroy the Guldenburgs and wants to own their castle...

"Verboten Liebe" is for me the best german daily-soap. It has a really good bitchy, sexy woman - a sort of Amanda Woodward # she even kills people to get what she wants...

"Schwarzwaldklinik" was the first german hospital-show and is still the succesfullst show ever. It reached nearly 80% in the ratings in the mid 80s

[adds3566]

looking to buy Châteauvallon on dvd or video. anyone know where i can get it? thanks
Adds...

[willie oleson]

-yes. but "Lindenstraße" is no daily soap. It´s shown every sunday...

"Das Erbe der Guldenburgs" was really well done. The newspapers called it "the german answer to Denver (Dynasty)". 2 rich families fighting: the wealthy Guldenburgs and the much more richer Balbecks. they produce beer and fight in buisness. Margot Balbeck (an Alexis-type) wants to destroy the Guldenburgs and wants to own their castle...

"Verboten Liebe" is for me the best german daily-soap. It has a really good bitchy, sexy woman - a sort of Amanda Woodward # she even kills people to get what she wants...

"Schwarzwaldklinik" was the first german hospital-show and is still the succesfullst show ever. It reached nearly 80% in the ratings in the mid 80s

And "Das Traumshiff" also with Sasha Hehn ;) hmmm
In Germany they have copied almost everything, like "Wetten Das" and "Traumhochzeit" :D
I really liked the Guldenburgs and would certainly buy the dvd's.

[Colbyco]

"Das Traumschiff" which runs for 25years now - is the german "Love Boat"...

[JJ_Devel]

Best european soap is Swedens own "Rederiet" (The Shipping Company). :D

[The Ewings Rules]

The only European soaps that i really likes are.

01. - Spijkerhoek - (NL)
02. - Medische Centrum West - (NL)
03. - Westenwind - (NL)
04. - Die Schwarzwald Klinik - (DE)
05. - Verboten Liebe - (DE)
06. - Foodballers Wives - (UK)

[JROG]

Well, here in Greece, we have quite a lot of Daytime Soaps, which air in late afternoon, alongside US, Mexican and generally Latin American ones.

The Greek Shows are:
1. I Lampsi ("The Glow", VERY popular one, ran for 14 years, ended a few weeks ago when the next soap came out):
2. Vera Sto Dexi (Engagement Ring) VERY, VERY, VERY succesful and it's format actually reminds of a Weekly Show. It's VERY quickly paced and high-quality. Started September 2004.
3. Kalimera Zoi (Life, Goodmorning, has been on for 12 years, from the creator and writer of "The Glow")
4. Apagorevmemi Agapi (Forbidden Love, about a girl who unknowingly falls in love with her brother) On since 09/1998
5. Filodoxires (Ambitions) Really trashy one, was good on Seasons 1 and 2, completely ridiculous on Season 3, but still going on for a 4th Season
6. Kato Aptin Acropoli ("Under The Acropolis") It was kind of a soap-sitcom, funny, ran for like three or four seasons.
And, lastly, there's:
7. Ta Ftera Tou Erota ("Wings Of Love") Good, but average-rated, ended after 7 years.

US ones:
The Young and the Restless (has been Braodcast since 1991 here)
The Bold and the Beatuful (Has been Braodcast since 1988, which is a year after it's US premiere!)
Days of Our Lives (For a couple of years, recently stoped, don't know if it'll be picked up again)
Guiding Light (Shortly)

Latin American Soap Operas:
COUNTLESS (of course, I HAVE to mention such successes as "Maria La Del Barrio", "Marimar", "Rosalinda", "La Usurpadora", "Esmeralda", "Prisionera", "Mariana De La Noche", "Kachorra", "Milagros", "Top Models" etc. (ALL dubbed!!!))

So, that's it. Hope I didn't bore you! :)

[EwingMan]

No,no...Sounds great....

[silverymoon]

strange isnt it... all these European countries buy into
American big budget, slick soaps and ignore
the soaps from other european countries

somehow I cant see Germany or France airing Coronation Street
.... its just not glitzy enough !

[i love LL]

Not to forget:


- Ein Schloss am Wörthersee

- Diese Drombuschs

- Hotel Paradies

- Klinik unter Palmen

- Unter uns

- Sturm der Liebe

- Wege zum Glück

- In aller Freundschaft


I used to watch "Sturm der Liebe" at the beginning but now it´s just getting more and more crapy from day to day.

:wiggle::peace:

[willie oleson]

And what about "Rivalen Der Renbahn"?
Was that prime time soap? Glossy drama with cliffhangers and all that?

[Pamela Barnes]

strange isnt it... all these European countries buy into
American big budget, slick soaps and ignore
the soaps from other european countries

somehow I cant see Germany or France airing Coronation Street
.... its just not glitzy enough !

Actually there was a girl Helmi, from Norway or somewhere and Emmerdale was their top soap.

She loved it.:D

[Barbara Fan]

The ones I remember (but have never seen) from buying 100s of German and French mags which featured Dallas cast in 80s are

Chateauvallon - they flew in Victoria P to France to meet the equivalent actress on this one

and Black Forrest (Gateau lol) Clinic aka Die Schwarzwald Klinik

[willie oleson]

Black Forrest (Gateau lol) Clinic aka Die Schwarzwald Klinik
OMG! It's amazing you mentioned that because I always say "Black Forrest Clinic Gateaux" except I say it in Dutch of course:
Schwarzwald Kliniek Gebakje.

I want torte!http://cache2.hyves-static.net/images/smilies/default/smiley_hungry.gif

[i love LL]

OMG! It's amazing you mentioned that because I always say "Black Forrest Clinic Gateaux" except I say it in Dutch of course:
Schwarzwald Kliniek Gebakje.

I want torte!http://cache2.hyves-static.net/images/smilies/default/smiley_hungry.gif


:hello:Some "Schwarzwälder Kirsch-Torte" for you Willie(^) ok it´s not exactly the same but at least Torte ;)