Larry Hagman news

[Tessie]

Okay, so it's mainly old news, but it's on today's IMDB, so I thought I'd post it. Here's the link also. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/#1


Hagman: Don't Give Me Another Liver

Former Dallas star Larry Hagman has requested doctors refrain from giving him a second liver transplant - because he's not afraid of dying. The 72-year-old star is reportedly experiencing life-threatening problems with the replacement liver he was given in 1995 but has no intentions of undergoing another operation. Brave Larry says, "I wouldn't have it even if it meant I had another 20 years. It doesn't scare me. You are going to die eventually anyway."

[gravy47]

Personally, I think that you should only get one transplant......and if drinking is what caused you to need the transplant then you shouldn't be given one.....and I don't say that to be mean I say it becuz there are MANY People who need transplants that don't get them becuz they don't have the money......If I needed a liver transplant becuz of my drinking I would refuse it.......I wouldn't feel that I deserved it becuz I abused MYSELF!

That's my opinion so dont freak out PEOPLE....LOL

[Laurie!]

Personally, I think he was very lucky to receive the first liver as fast as he did. It would be way too coincidental if he got another one quickly...there's so many people on the waiting list.

I certainly don't wish him any harm. I hope he lives for many more years and I respect his decision.

[hubbabubba53]

I personally think that he should get one liver transplant instead of two

[Pamela Barnes]

Well where do you draw the line Gravy? Its a legal substance known to be the most addictive drug out, yet we lawfully sell it and are able to drink at 16 or 21 depending on your location.

Its easy to blame the person for drinking but with all things that are bad for us its too late before we realise and especially something which is so addictive.

Caffine is bad for peoples hearts, would you expect a coffee drinker to turn down a heart translant or someone who ate too many cakes?

[CarlD]

Being famous definitely puts you on top of the transplant list.

Pat Summerall, famous NFL NY Giant and CBS and FOX NFL announcer, received a liver transplant this past week. He is also a recovering alcoholic and drinking no doubt ruined his liver.

Hagman, now 72, I hope is fine, but the older you get, the riskier the surgery also becomes.

[gravy47]

you took that the wrong way , Pamela.....what I meant was that he knew the damage it could do and so does everyone else who drinks.....Say you got hepatitus A because of a blood transfusion and were turned down for a new liver becuase a famous person who drank them selves into oblivion had more money than you and got the liver that you needed....is that fair?......Not in my opinion, and I think that LH feels the same way about receiveing a new liver......

[Pamela Barnes]

People know eatting cakes makes you fat so where do draw the line? Fat people get heart disease and need transpants. No more help for fat people...no no no.

Only thin people who have not indulged in all the legal badness of food and drink can have transplants.

[Jock]

Let me play devil's advocate. Suppose Ghandi, a better man than say, Manson, both need a liver, Ghandi's second, Manson's first. Should Ghandi get the liver first even though Manson is higher on the list?

If Larry Hagman wanted the liver and say some nobody like me needed one as well and was higher on the list. Would the greater good of the public be benefited by his receiving of it rather than me? I don't know, I'm just asking.

Personally, I think if your liver goes bad as a direct cause of what YOU did to it, or your body goes bad as result of what YOU put into it, you should be placed below people who had a random disease. Interesting topic :-).

[gravy47]

Personal experience story time....LOL

A man that worked for my Father's construction business smoked , drank and all the things he shouldn't do.....had a couple of heart attacks as well and open heart surgery.....he died in 1996.....two weeks after he died his wife found a letter from his doctor saying that he needed a heart transplant to survive.......Needless to say he rejected that and chose to die.....that was his final choice.....He knew that someone else needed that worse then himself.....a selfless act of courage...... http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons/35.gif

Now I haven't meant to upset Pamela about this, but it is sort of like the David Crosby deal.....Drugs , Booze, then a liver transplant....was he grateful for a new lease on life?.....Yeah....all the way to the LIQUOR STORE!

Being a fat person myself I can safely say that I would and am trying to change my lifestyle BEFORE I am faced with this situation.......If I know it is wrong and bad then I can change. Having only one eye due to my recent bout with cancer, Entitles me to use the handicapped parking places.......I don't becuz someone is in much worse shape than me....and I am not thinking of myself......I applaud Larry for his refusal of the 2nd liver....We ALL have to die...

[Pamela Barnes]

But these things we put into our bodies are pushed at us and addictive. Alchohol is addictive , a killer and legal. Same with ciggerettes. Where does the onus lye if the Government allow the legal use of addictive killer substances and yet we blame the people who become addicted when its something socialbly acceptable.

It seems people jump on smokers and drinkers yet people who eat too much and get ill are let off lightly. If you think its easy to stop drinking then surely its easy not to eat too much and become obese.

[gravy47]

I started smoking in 1981.....and I don't remember the government twisting my arm to do so.....I think that it is a matter of choice....Hell I knew a man who smoked for 44 years....he quit smoking....and got run over by a tobacco truck.... http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Tessie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gravy47:
I started smoking in 1981.....and I don't remember the government twisting my arm to do so.....I think that it is a matter of choice....Hell I knew a man who smoked for 44 years....he quit smoking....and got run over by a tobacco truck.... http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm scared to ask if that's a true story? http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Pamela Barnes]

In theory nobody asks us to do ANYTHING but then there is advertiseing, peer pressure and a whole array of things that push people to smoke. If smokeing tasted like cats piss and wasnt addictive then Im sure nobody would smoke. The same with drinking, its there, its acceptable and people do it. Other things that harm us are illegal so why are these things acceptable methods of self harm? Yeah these things kill ya but they are legal......mmmmmm kind of a strange equation there.

You can get arrested for running across a motorway but its fine to smoke yourself to death. http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[John Ross IV]

Do we even know if Drinking was the cause of LH needing a new liver? Isn't the lifespan of a transplanted liver about 10 years? Well this summer it will have been 9 years since LH got his transplant....Maybe he just doesn't want to go through that again...maybe he wants to spend the last couple of months/years being at peace...And I think if we start deciding who is and who isn't good enough to receive organs, then we are dangerously close to playing God....

[gravy47]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I'm scared to ask if that's a true story? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL Tessie....no that was a joke....you know me..... http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Jock]

Larry's condition was NOT related to renewed drinking, so this is all hypothetical. The thing that makes eating harder is you can stop smoking or drinking, but you HAVE to eat. It's not like you can go cold turkey on food so it's much easier to fall off the wagon and much harder not to get tempted to fall back.

Regardless of what's legal/illegal, most people know what's good for them and make their choices. They should have to live with those choices. If they are doing things because of the media, they are probably very weak willed anyway, lol.

[Tessie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gravy47:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I'm scared to ask if that's a true story? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL Tessie....no that was a joke....you know me..... http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL, sounded a little too coincidential, but stranger things have happened, I'm sure. http://www.soapchat.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Pamela Barnes]

You have to eat yes but not 5 bags of potatoe chips whilst watching your fav daytime soap, followed by a tub of ice cream. Thats a choice, so no different, and with that in mind all those people should not be helped if they get heart problems or anything else that comes with being fat.

So far the list of people who should be left to rot are:

1. People who drink
2. People who smoke
3. Fat people

How about people like David Blaine who might get hurt or sick from their stunts? Maybe trapeze artists who slip and fall?
Sking is dangerous too, now I think damaged limbs should be left shattered because those foolish skiers know the risks yet still ski. How crazyyy.

So.

4. Trapeze Artists
5. People who ski

My thoughts right now are on Larry. Here is an actor who played a part that turned him into a cutural icon. He is facing the end of his life. What I took from it is, why keep prolonging the inevitable. When it is your time, that is it. For whatever reason, he has chosen to live what time he has left not stuck in some hospital, waiting to get another liver that MAY prolong his life another 5 or 10 years. He's going out the way he wants to, and I respect that.

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They need to make another Dallas movie before Larry kicks the bucket. Two would be even better. They could keep one in the can and release it a year after the first one. After Larry dies dallas will become high demand. They could do a movie where the older generation passes the torch. Bring back james and have him halp jr take total control of westar buy getting rid of all the stock holders. sue-ellen would be jelous of this and let jhno ross take control of her half of ewing. Kill of Sue-ellen, bobby and jr is a plance crash. Jr would leave westar to james with the condition that he get control of ewing within 1 yr. booby would leave christopher his half of ewing. this would set up a three way fight between them. Bring back Gary and Val to take over southfork and the head of the family.

that should be help not halp

They need to make another Dallas movie before Larry kicks the bucket. Two would be even better. They could keep one in the can and release it a year after the first one. After Larry dies dallas will become high demand. They could do a movie where the older generation passes the torch. Bring back james and have him help jr take total control of westar buy getting rid of all the stock holders. sue-ellen would be jelous of this and let john ross take control of her half of ewing. Kill off Sue-ellen, bobby and jr is a plane crash. Jr would leave westar to james with the condition that he get control of ewing within 1 yr. bobby would leave christopher his half of ewing. this would set up a three way fight between them. Bring back Gary and Val to take over southfork and the head of the family

[Frank Williams]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jre:
They need to make another Dallas movie before Larry kicks the bucket. Two would be even better. They could keep one in the can and release it a year after the first one. After Larry dies dallas will become high demand. They could do a movie where the older generation passes the torch. Bring back james and have him help jr take total control of westar buy getting rid of all the stock holders. sue-ellen would be jelous of this and let john ross take control of her half of ewing. Kill off Sue-ellen, bobby and jr is a plane crash. Jr would leave westar to james with the condition that he get control of ewing within 1 yr. bobby would leave christopher his half of ewing. this would set up a three way fight between them. Bring back Gary and Val to take over southfork and the head of the family <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right On! Bring Gary and Val back. There are some things that still need to be resolved. The only problem is getting Gary to change his mind about moving back home. I wonder if he talked any with Bobby during J.R.'s five year absence or if any visits were made to Dallas. They talked to each other on the phone when they thought J.R. was dead. However I am not in favor of killing off the Central characters.

[Pamela Barnes]

I find it unlikely we will see another Dallas movie, I actually think Larry is doing his farewells. .

Pamela does that mean you think Larry does not have much time left?

Would there be any point to making another DALLAS reunion movie ? The last one was poor. They have run out of fresh ideas and storylines.